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Features / Re: New revs
« on April 3rd, 2011, 11:08 PM »
rev 680
(7 files, 9kb)

! Fixed sidebar width in Chrome/Safari, due to a minor glitch in the var parsing regex. (Class-CSS.php)
! Fixed horizontal matching of dt/dd tags not working in IE6/IE7 due to a bug with clear: both and floated elements. Fixed through trial and error... (ie6.css, ie7.css, index.css)
! Fixed main content (next to sidebar) width in most browsers, due to an earlier fix for IE (what else?). (index.css)
- dl.settings_title is never used anywhere. (index.css)
- Can't find #ip_list anywhere either. (rtl.css)
- And .header... I think I removed the last one this week. (webkit.css)
* Modified Warm to make the sidebar blend in with the background, and have a single vertical rule separate it from the main content. (Warm/index.css)
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Off-topic / Re: Happy Birthday Nao!
« on April 3rd, 2011, 10:37 PM »
Quote from texasman1979 on April 3rd, 2011, 09:53 PM
I am far from puntual, just found this thread, im glad ur even older than me now, ur gonna be 40 before you know it, so get good and drunk on arantors dime, happy late bday man. :) yall need to smoke a joint in the middle if the english channel. :)
I gave up on joints a decade ago... I didn't smoke a lot but I'm positive my memory skills were impaired by it. Don't do drugs!  :ph34r: :ph34r:
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Other software / Re: So, I've been asked...
« on April 3rd, 2011, 10:33 PM »
Quote from borg1985 on April 3rd, 2011, 08:57 PM
I wasn't directly hurt by them, but I thought the way they handled the situation was just really not the best way at all or even close.  So I pretty much stopped watching the thread after that and moved over to reading the AeMe section at Noisen.  I definitely think there are people who got hurt by it.
I don't mean to say I was *hoping* some people would hurt... But I sure was hoping that people among those who didn't know me at all would feel they handled me unfairly. (Those who know me... Well, they know it was fair to ban me since I was a pain in their ass, always reminding them how lousy they were at everything :niark:)
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Not that I've ever heard about and just the fact they'd ban the creator of the most popular mod for their software just shows how they really don't think about the consequences of their actions or even the actions themself sometimes.
I did remove the mod to make them remember their actions would have consequences. Well, in the end they didn't seem to give a shit (after all, they didn't create the platform.... They don't care about it, it's been proven so many times), and I had to think of the users. So I restored it but it was not without frustration.
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In the end what they did to you and the fact there hasn't really been any new development to SMF (New Features) in a few years now made my decision to switch to Wedge when it comes out extremely easy and a very fast decision.  Pretty much "Simple math."  :lol:
;)

Yeah, as I said the other day, they "feature-froze" SMF about 3 years and a half ago. I'm sure even Duke Nukem Forever (the father of all vaporware) added plenty of features in 2008 and 2009. (Now that's another reason why it never got out... Because they couldn't stop adding features. But from what I see, after the new guys took over, they took a year to complete it without adding features -- and they're only one month late.)
3 years and a half is a lot. The number one browser at the time was *still* IE6. It was barely being challenged by IE7, and Firefox was only a thing for geeks. Curve works perfectly in IE6. That's not something I would be proud of, personally... :P (Given the resulting tag soup at least.)
Posted: April 3rd, 2011, 10:30 PM
Quote from texasman1979 on April 3rd, 2011, 10:19 PM
The reason i chose to switch is the fact that arantor wad hands down the most helpful person on sm.org, and he teamed up with the author of THE top mod. I tend to side with the one that volenteerily works to be the best they can be. There is no doubt in my mind wedge will be one of the top brands for forum type software if not the best within 1 year of debut.
The best, I don't know, I'm still impressed by some features in IPB and XenForo, but then again they're commercial -- and not cheap to begin with. I always thought there should be room for a $50 forum package, or even cheaper, but it's not going to be Wedge. I suppose if you want to make money off a niche market like forum software, you *have* to sell it for a high price. Sad to say... And this is just not me. Nor is it Pete's way of doing things.
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And i will consider it an honor for their copyright to reside at the bottom of every page view once im able to covert to wedge software. Keep up the kick ass work guys, just dont get too stoned in the english channel, save some for me. :)
We've been working together for 7 months but we have yet to meet each other ;) Nearly happened back in December.
Hey Pete, you know you're always welcome at my place, if you want to visit Paris with your girl. We can even discuss programming when you're here.  :angel: :geek:
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Other software / Re: So, I've been asked...
« on April 3rd, 2011, 10:22 PM »
@Pete> Yeah... 'twas a different team. Their names shall remain to me as those of the true builders of SMF. Those who actually made it into a worthy platform.
The new generation is in... And it didn't have to do a single effort to get the platform to what it is now. All it has to do is maintain it. And they can't even do that... And to add insult to injury, they can't even handle the human aspects of the job. Yeah.... Good job indeed! ::)
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The Pub / Re: did not find this in FaQ
« on April 3rd, 2011, 08:35 PM »
Quote from Whizzy on April 3rd, 2011, 08:07 PM
I am sorry, will not spell Aeva as Aevea again :)
You won't have to spell it for a long time anyway, since it'll lose its name when it's part of Wedge ;) It'll just be Wedge Media, and only the internals (language files, variable names etc.) will retain the aeva prefix, for the sake of good ol' days.
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Other software / Re: So, I've been asked...
« on April 3rd, 2011, 08:28 PM »
It was really.... not pretty.

Then again, have you ever seen the SMF team handle a crisis in a pretty way?
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Other software / Re: Looking for Portal Suggestions
« on April 3rd, 2011, 08:27 PM »
Errr... Maybe?
Maybe you're talking about the evals? I was thinking about performance issues related to the object overhead.
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Other software / Re: Looking for Portal Suggestions
« on April 3rd, 2011, 08:00 PM »
@Pete> You need to do something about the string object btw... I think I posted a benchmark around in the private area with suggestions on fixing that :p

@texasman> Thanks ;)
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Other software / Re: So, I've been asked...
« on April 3rd, 2011, 07:55 PM »
Well, they locked topics at the time just because it was mentioned.
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Other software / Re: So, I've been asked...
« on April 3rd, 2011, 07:53 PM »
Oh yes, that I know and sympathize.
But I just didn't think that someone would take offense for seeing me banned. I thought most people didn't even notice... :^^;: (Since the fact that I'm banned is one of the subjects that is subject to a potential ban over there............)
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The Pub / Re: did not find this in FaQ
« on April 3rd, 2011, 07:52 PM »
Quote from Whizzy on April 3rd, 2011, 06:16 PM
got really happy with it thanks to Aevea Media. my favorite mod.
:)
It's Aeva, though, not Aevaveavaea :P (Gesundheit!)
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So i waas in my admin area and noticed in my aevea configuration page that future releases would only be available in wedge.
Yeah, I may still release one last version of AeMe 1.x, I'm not sure yet. A "final goodbye" version with a few features from the commercial package. I'm not sure yet.
The only thing I'm sure of, is that Wedge will have the commercial package. (Oh wait, maybe I should specify that in the FAQ :P)
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aaargh was my first thought (never heard of wedge before)
The opposite would have been surprising. The SMF team have made their best to make sure no one can hear about us. They edit everyone's signatures (without warning) to remove links and prevent them from discussing it over at their boards. Even though we have yet to release anything, of course...

They say it doesn't clash with their Core Values. I beg to differ... Just the fact that they didn't even contact me personally...
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As amateur i am not that good in changing from one board to another without losing my data, will it be possible to install wedge over my current smf installation somehow so i don't lose all my data, uploads and gallery's?
It will import all data from AeMe. Normally the table structure should remain the same so it'll just be copied over to Wedge.
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i do wish you all the best, good inspiration and a huge user base when you go public :)
As I said elsewhere, I'm not hoping for a huge user base, because that represents extra support work and I have my hands full (and everyone knows how bad I am at support anyway), but I could use the inspiration yeah :)
Posted: April 3rd, 2011, 07:51 PM
Quote from Arantor on April 3rd, 2011, 07:49 PM
Honestly, it was like making the jump from 1.1.x to 2.0 modding for me;
True dat. I hated doing the conversion at first -- and then after that, I just couldn't look back!
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The Pub / Re: did not find this in FaQ
« on April 3rd, 2011, 07:43 PM »
Quote from Arantor on April 3rd, 2011, 07:38 PM
In theory an SMF mod could be set up to support both but in most cases it will be a rewrite of the mod anyway.
And we strongly suspect that many modders will actually drop their SMF version when they realize the Wedge version requires much, much less tech support to give. That'll be worth the hassle of making the rewrite.
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Other software / Re: Looking for Portal Suggestions
« on April 3rd, 2011, 07:42 PM »
Quote from Arantor on April 3rd, 2011, 05:22 PM
You can't have it both ways, it's either customisable or it's fast. We're choosing customisable.
Technically, it's still faster to load than SMF in my book, even with jQuery loaded............. And that's what counts :whistle:
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Other software / Re: So, I've been asked...
« on April 3rd, 2011, 07:41 PM »
Quote from borg1985 on April 3rd, 2011, 05:00 PM
Basically the same for me.  I stopped looking at the forums (not that I posted) back around when Nao was post banned and all the AeMe threads were merged.
Do you mean there are people who actually got hurt just as much as I got hurt by the SMF team's behavior at the time? :sob:
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Other software / Re: Looking for Portal Suggestions
« on April 3rd, 2011, 07:40 PM »
Just a note-- we currently (and hopefully never?) don't have any plans to monetize Wedge. It's just free of charge (in exchange of which we'd appreciate not to have to deal with the shit that usually comes with software releases :P).
So, we won't release a free package and a paid-for package. Seriously, the main reason I release a paid-for Aeva Media was because it was becoming a real hassle to deal with the tech support, and many people were insulting (especially in the SMF team, which was the first to benefit from my software's popularity!), and I figured they just didn't deserve the effort. Basically: I made people pay when I stopped caring. Hopefully I won't stop caring about Wedge.

Also, texasman, it'd be cheaper for you to go to Arizona. There's someone over there who has it running ;)