Wedge

Sorry, looks like I'm another victim of Godwin's law ;)

Definitely. And I'm a hat specialist.

Well, we have the private boards i f you want to say more :P

I know Pete will disagree, but I've been considering the advancements in SMF2 compared to SMF1, and the advancements in Wedge compared to SMF2, and I can say without any hint of shame that Wedge can safely be considered as an alternative SMF3, rather than 2.1.
Just look at the feature list... We have nearly 50 major additions to the core. I doubt SMF2 has even half of that.Pete is doing the thinking :P
Being a visionary is his job, and he does it flawlessly. I do my part by working constantly on the codebase. I work by small improvements, while his fuel is full rewrites. I think it's great that we're so complementary on so many levels. We'd never dare to seriously question each other's work :)
I don't think it'll render them unusable, but some features will definitely fail (banning, IP tracking, etc.)
I'm not sure why Pete seems to think his work on IPv6 isn't done -- to me, it's certainly ready for release...? He worked a lot on it.Oh, I'm seriously ashamed of my Aeva codebase.... :^^;:
(I'd gladly blame it on Dragooon, but that would be unfair, since I know for a fact that I rewrote many of my own functions for Wedge :P)It's been said and done... SMF is a large team, while the dev team is small, and they make it very hard to join it, while at the same time not giving a damn about how little some of the devs do actual work.
I mean, it's always fascinated me that they all went on hiatus "until SMF's license is sorted out"... While at the same time, having no prior knowledge of the outcome of this, we worked hard for (what is now 9 months) on our fork.
Working on SMF is a privilege. I'm sad that the current team just doesn't seem to give much thought to it. They seem to think that SMF is in better hands by accepting only quiet people and rejecting the loud ones.
But when you do that, you also reject what makes these people loud: passion.

Wedge is the product of two loud people.Wedge.org is open to anyone, including SMF teamies. We don't consider their thoughts to be the thoughts of SMF as a whole. If Kindred or Oldiesmann were to join here though, they'd have to specify whether they're speaking their mind, or the team's.

BTW -- apart from a handful of SMF teamies, we don't have anyone we won't welcome here. As you may have noticed, some prominent SMF ex-teamies (mostly ex-devs, actually) have joined us and they're willing to help the project, for which we are very grateful. See, when I mention the horrible SMF team, I only speak about its representatives I dealt with, and the decisions they made by committee.
Wedge began because SMF was dead, it's that simple.
A year later, it's still just as dead. Feature-frozen for 3 years and a half means it froze to its death.
Now, if Wedge could inspire SMF teamies into keeping SMF up to speed, then we'd be thrilled. However, we don't want them to benefit from our work to get into that position. Not because of our feelings for SMF, but because of how they treated us -- saying they were unfair to us would be an understatement. A year later, I still feel sad about how they handled us. How they used us, too.

When time comes -- when Wedge gets its name on the map of forum software, we'll reconsider it.
As we said earlier, if the SMF team resigned en masse and gave us control over it, we would do it. Our only goal is to resurrect SMF and show the outstanding possibilities of its codebase. It's not an ego trip (fortunately. Working for 9 months on an ego trip would be a fabulous waste of time.)
We like controlling our own fates. We both had experiences in the past where we felt frustrated at not being able to tell our boss off (especially Pete). It's good to be in charge here -- and to have so many people trust us, so that it doesn't seem so bad to be under a Pete/Nao dictatorship (which is, ultimately, what this is.)I'm sure the SMF and Wedge communities will help each other and we'll see some good things happen. I'm sure of it.

BTW, what part of me did you miss? The angry outbursts? The French loveur cynical bastard? Or just the nice codebase? :niark:

Looks good, but I'd have put more padding around the main area. I mean, it feels a little restrained by the box borders...?

Naoki not Naomi.
Means healing tree.

Well he's just a fan of Motoko Kusanagi in GiTS is all...
He did confirm to me he was a guy many, many years ago.
I myself had fun back for a few weeks in 1996 with a female nickname. But after getting hit on one time too many, I called it quits and became Naoki :P

The one guy/girl I never got around to understanding whether he/she was a he/she is Jordan. :^^;:

From where?

@DS> He's not the 'clamshell' type as far as I know... He's always been vocal enough about his personal dislike of me, I believe. Still, he's spot on in that particular post :P