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Other software / Re: Wedge and SMF directions
« on July 21st, 2011, 11:57 AM »
Quote from Arantor on July 21st, 2011, 10:59 AM
So you'd record the different ways people find a given thread? Could be fun, could be a royal PITA as the log inevitably grows.
Obviously search engines would have to be logged separately from regular sites. We could either limit logs from search engines, or only keep the most recent logs as well as the top 10 ones, etc... Anyway, of course it's going to be a huge backlog, but it's also interesting. There could be a 'reset log' button, things like that... But it's never going to be as big a problem as 'regular' trackback spam.
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Being visible to author+moderators solves the problem of it being generally visible and problematic, doesn't quite so much solve the issue of it being generated in the first place.
But what's the point in generating them *if no search engine can actually see it*? That's the whole point of spam... They don't particularly target human users, they mostly target spiders.

I'm sure there are PLENTY of places where we could eliminate user data from Google's eyes, and thus discouraging spammers from attempting to hijack Google's attention on a Wedge site. We're already doing it for signatures and website links through a permission, but maybe it should be a big on/off button saying, basically, "make spammers go away by limiting search engine options"...
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Other software / Re: "Paid for" shit.
« on July 21st, 2011, 10:59 AM »
vbgamer?
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Other software / Re: Wedge and SMF directions
« on July 21st, 2011, 10:55 AM »
Suggestion. Trackbacks viewable by post author and moderators only.

Done through analysis of referred, rather than the usual protocol.
Bit like the google keywords mod here, but from other places as well.
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Other software / Re: What happend to Sinan?
« on July 21st, 2011, 12:44 AM »
bbPress sucks. How can you compare that to SMF :P

SimpleForum for WordPress would be a much better guess. At least it seems to be usable like a forum (rather than focus on layout/design.)
Still, it's a far cry from Wedge or even SMF...
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Other software / Re: Wedge and SMF directions
« on July 21st, 2011, 12:43 AM »
Ah, trackbacks... The only blog feature I failed to add to Noisen.com, really. I don't even remember why I didn't look further into it ;)
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Features / Re: New revs
« on July 21st, 2011, 12:41 AM »
rev 881
(8 files, 14kb)

+ Added icons to the user menu. Uh. Actually, only one really... But at the least code skeleton is here. Also swapped class contents between list items and anchors in mini menus. (Display.php, Display.template.php, sections.css)

- Couldn't find the reason why there were non-semantic span tags inside mini-menu calls. So I removed them, because that's who I am. (TEMPLATES: Display, PersonalMessage, Post, Profile, Recent)

! Fixed icon positions in mini-menu. (topic.js)
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Other software / Re: Wedge and SMF directions
« on July 20th, 2011, 11:24 PM »
Track...back?
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Other software / Re: "Paid for" shit.
« on July 20th, 2011, 10:58 PM »
Smfnew?
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Other software / Re: What happend to Sinan?
« on July 20th, 2011, 10:32 PM »
Quote from Kat on July 20th, 2011, 10:01 PM
Maybe I have more chance of pissing on the moon, though...
Even WordPress becoming a forum software and taking over SMF would be a safer bet. :^^;:
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Other software / Re: "Paid for" shit.
« on July 20th, 2011, 10:31 PM »
I never dwelved into theme support -- never used any. Only customized my own really...

Although ideally, Wedge should avoid most of SMF's theme support issues, if only because most of what people want to do can be achieved with skins. And they're easier to manipulate than themes...
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Features / Re: New revs
« on July 20th, 2011, 10:29 PM »
rev 880
(3 files, 12kb)

* Converted user menus to use the same object structure as action menus. Saves about 300 bytes in the topic.js file, but it's mostly for the slight benefit of readability. (Display.php, Display.template.php, topic.js)

! Minor jQuery error with opacity animation. (topic.js)

@ I think I'm done with these menus... Might just wanna add icons to the user menu, now.
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Other software / Re: "Paid for" shit.
« on July 20th, 2011, 09:35 PM »
I myself am very open about the 'paid for' matter. With paid work for Aeva Lite and Aeva Media, I made about $4000 in a couple of years. It's a lot, but it's also nothing if you consider I worked on it fulltime. Represents what... $20 a month? Eh.

Still, I made a choice when I started work on Wedge -- basically, I could either stay in the SMF community (and thus start building Wedge), or just give up on SMF, and do something else. Either return to game development (which has always been good to me, financially), or simply become a freelance dev for web agencies or something (although I doubt it'd be very rewarding.) Since I wasn't too excited at the idea of doing something I'd already worked on for over 10 years, I decided my passion for SMF was worth staying on.

I *thought* I'd be done with Wedge in a few months though... I don't know if I'd have chosen that path, had I known it wouldn't be out a year later. On the other hand, I'm very proud of how much it's BETTER than SMF2. There is no way in hell their devs are going to catch up with us. Even if we gave them a one-year headstart. That's how well we worked together on this, Pete and I.

Anyway, end of story.

Given my lack of interest for things of life (i.e. anything that costs money), coupled with shared costs, I can probably keep up with this for some time. So yes, I can afford not to be concerned with the business issue of SMF and Wedge, because I don't want pocket money. But I perfectly understand that some people
I prefer to owe no one anything right now. Pete and I are... mostly drawn by our interest in building a fantastic CMS. Or at least something we can be proud of.
Not everyone is driven by their passion. You just have to draw a line between paid stuff, and free community work. If you can't balance it out, then you'd better drop it altogether, you're better off working on 100% closed commercial software. That's just my idea of it.
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Other software / Re: What happend to Sinan?
« on July 20th, 2011, 08:54 PM »
Kat, you know you're always welcome here! And we'll be needing help in the support department too ;)
It's up to you, of course!
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Features / Re: New revs
« on July 20th, 2011, 08:51 PM »
rev 879
(3 files, 14kb)

* Merged the two mini-menu objects (user, action) into a single one, saving about 1.2KB in the process. Gets a tad confusing though... Should try and make the two menus more similar internally. (topic.js)

* Moved profile icons to their own function. (Display.template.php)

* Minor display template changes. (Display.template.php)

! Selector inheritance bug in mini-menu. (sections.css)
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Features / Re: replace jwplayer with videojs for local videos
« on July 20th, 2011, 06:55 PM »
Quote from amlucent on July 20th, 2011, 05:51 PM
I am using mp4.  I understand flash is the only option for a lot of machines unless I want to keep 3 versions of every file on my server (ogv, mp4, and webm.  which I dont intend to do).
No one intends to.
With Flash 11, webm will be supported everywhere (except for Android, ironically.)
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Anyway, if it could be done with jwplayer then great.  I dont mind a watermark.  The jwplayer water mark only pops up at the beginning of the video then goes away.
No. If you hit the Pause button and then play again, the watermark shows up again. That was the deal breaker for me.