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Off-topic / Re: IE users are dumb
« on August 4th, 2011, 08:00 AM »
Quote from Arantor on August 4th, 2011, 01:09 AM
it would imply that threaded discussions are possible (which they aren't)
Well, for now! :P
We haven't finished discussing this... I still want to do it at some point :whistle:

But whether we do that or not, I do think that Quick Reply should be available below every post. Only, as a small icon or whatever, instead of a header that takes the entire width.
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Development blog / Re: A nice kick in the CSS
« on August 4th, 2011, 12:05 AM »
Quote from Arantor on August 3rd, 2011, 11:34 PM
I should note that as I refine some of the systems I'm working on, I'm likely to break stuff and then need to fix the importer but all in all, looking good :)
Well, I'm sure Thorsten will happily fix the import tool by himself. He should be very proud of it, it ran really smoothly for me. Hey, he even used <fieldset> to take advantage of our fieldset redesign! :lol:
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Off-topic / Re: IE users are dumb
« on August 3rd, 2011, 11:45 PM »
It's not a hoax... In my heart :P
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Development blog / Re: A nice kick in the CSS
« on August 3rd, 2011, 11:42 PM »
Yeah plenty of little bugs like I said. But I didn't even expect it to succeed. I don't think it'll take more than a few days of testing to fix all of the bugs. :)
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The Pub / [Archive] Re: Logo Madness
« on August 3rd, 2011, 10:32 PM »
ARG, I have no idea what this is supposed to stand for :P
Other than that, I understand you're suggesting something like #374, which I'm not super-excited about. As I said, 90% of all corporate logos use the same formula: a small symbol, and next to it the company name in a special font.
Thing is, I'm not a big fan of these. Most of the logos I see on the website Adonis mentioned fail to keep me excited. It's very rare to see a symbol that really stands by itself. The Apple and Nike symbols are some of the 'good' examples of this. They're well known, but mostly because it doesn't even say the company name next to it, and they promoted it a lot. There are other examples where a company logo is just its logo in a special font. It works well for Facebook (because of the strong color code, white on blue background, and a modified Klavika font). It doesn't work as well with Samsung for example.
We don't have the marketing power to afford a single symbol with no product/company name on it, so we'd have to go with symbol + name and settle on what most people do...
What I like in the current Wedge logo is that it focuses on the name, rather than the symbol. The symbol is only there to give more life to the name, not to represent it in whatever way.

One of the things I liked in the old header logo, was that the symbol was behind the 'w', slightly offset. It was visible and yet not the center of attention. I like that, but it's hard to reproduce in the new logo. Plus, the 'ship' logo wasn't so hot with most people here.
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Off-topic / Re: Dial Up BBS
« on August 3rd, 2011, 10:23 PM »
Okay, so I'm adding DirtRider to the list, don't be jealous guys :P
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Development blog / A nice kick in the CSS
« on August 3rd, 2011, 10:14 PM »
Tonight's a special night to me. I installed another copy of Wedge on the server, and I finally ran TE's import tool on Wedge.org. I just... wanted to see if it would work. And it does!

It's not perfect, has bugs here and there, doesn't import attachments and avatars yet, but you have absolutely no idea how wonderful it was for me to find myself face to face with a fully converted SMF forum running Wedge. The dream has finally come true!



And it looks gorgeous. There's no better way to test a design than to insert real data into it. I'm really happy with it now. I wasn't sure -- now I am. Party on! (Oh, and we're trying new Wedge logos, if you didn't notice. It's not final yet, but you can follow the process in the Logo Madness topic. Everything's public. Because that's how we do things at Wedge.)
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The Pub / [Archive] Re: Logo Madness
« on August 3rd, 2011, 04:07 PM »
New test... The current Helv logo + PITA font type and a new color for the w.

:edit: Replaced mini logo with that one.
Cons: Readability is slightly worse. Not that much though. The original Wedge logo had very obvious text (since it had no other graphics per se), but the new logo doesn't have the stylized 'g'.
Pros: Well, it looks more 'serious', more professional all of a sudden... While still adding the idea of a 'dynamic' project (the italics).

I like it.
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The Pub / [Archive] Re: Logo Madness
« on August 3rd, 2011, 04:00 PM »
Yeah, that's because in that version I'd split the w from he rest so I could color it from within the same software (as opposed to doing some PSP7 reworking). So the drop shadow was apparent between the two letters. I noticed that and when I came back to Helvetica, I joined the letters together to avoid it.
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The Pub / [Archive] Re: Logo Madness
« on August 3rd, 2011, 03:24 PM »
Saw that one yesterday on your blog :P

I'm taking a short break from the logo issue. I mean, originally I started working on the logo *to take a break from other duties*... It's only fair that I shouldn't be spending all my time on it :P I guess I got annoyed after I failed to add a subtle flare effect inside the text. (Hmm, even after turning it into a path...) I'll retry later.
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The Pub / [Archive] Re: Logo Madness
« on August 3rd, 2011, 10:34 AM »
Quote from Dramber on August 3rd, 2011, 10:27 AM
What about having the word Wedge balanced on top of the wedge?
Hmm, no.
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So far my favorite is the one currently at the top of the forums.
There's a reason I put logos in the forum header. It means that's my favorite choice, and it becomes the de facto benchmark for other logo attempts.
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Is there a reason, other than ascetics, for the "w" not being capitalized?
Nope. Just the aesthetics.
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I'm kind of silly that way, proper nouns that are in small caps kind of make my ass twitch.
A capital W with that font would make it twitch even more.
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Makes me wish I had experience with graphic design and the assorted programs for making art and logos. :)
You don't need to have experience -- I'm the living example of that, I never touched vector programs before this week. (I did use 3DS Max and Blender but (1) they're 3D, (2) I sucked HARD at them and needed them at work so let's not remind me of that too much :P)
What you need is a sense of taste that reconciles everyone's ;)
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The Pub / [Archive] Re: Logo Madness
« on August 3rd, 2011, 10:26 AM »
Not particularly better than the last time I posted a PT Sans test.

Though, here's one with PT Sans Italic, which I enjoy. It looks full of life.
Posted: August 3rd, 2011, 10:20 AM

And a curious one (mostly disappointing) where the letters touch each other.
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Off-topic / Re: Dial Up BBS
« on August 3rd, 2011, 09:30 AM »
Quote from Drunken Clam on August 3rd, 2011, 08:55 AM
Shit! Please someone, tell me I'm not the eldest here at 55.5!  :o :sob:
I believe K@ and Road Rash at least beat you on that count ;)
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The Pub / [Archive] Re: Logo Madness
« on August 3rd, 2011, 08:14 AM »
@Johnny> A wedge can be several things. I have no interest in the wedge as the object you 'insert into something', to me it's the 'orange wedge' -- a slice.

@Adonis> The current logo's point is EXACTLY to be blander. It's easier to reach the right 'thing' if the font isn't too distracting. Here's an example with Kaffeesatz (the font in my sig.) And no, I don't like it in that sense.

@ARG> Err... Please :P
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Off-topic / Re: Kudos for Nao & Arantor
« on August 3rd, 2011, 07:56 AM »
Well the alpha will be public so no need to sign up eheh.

PS: can you tell me, on a psychological level, your reason for changing the font size and color on each of your posts?