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Features / Re: New revs
« on August 20th, 2011, 12:09 AM »
rev 954
(26 files +1, 35kb)

+ Add a copy of the SMF2 license file to the root folder. (license_smf.txt)

* As far I know, the name conversions are now FINISHED... Oh my. Except for the smfinfo.php file, but I don't even think we'll be distributed that one. (other/*)

* Just tweaking install to my liking... No surprise to anyone. (install.php)

* Renamed some sm* vars to we*. (JSEditor.php, QuoteFast.php, editor.js)

! Fixed menu backgrounds not showing up in IE. (index.css)

! Fixed screwed up quick buttons in IE8. (index.ie8.css)
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Features / Re: New revs - Public comments
« on August 19th, 2011, 11:15 PM »
I looked at your commit... Is it normal that you reverted my change to the MySQL version test...?
I only made that to avoid calling a useless eval()...
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Features / Re: New revs - Public comments
« on August 19th, 2011, 10:35 PM »
Please document your commits.... :whistle:
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Features / Re: New revs - Public comments
« on August 19th, 2011, 07:34 PM »
Me too. Next who commits then!
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Features / Re: New revs - Public comments
« on August 19th, 2011, 06:21 PM »
Oh my, sorry -- it was my fault then... I didn't think these brackets were linked to anything else. To me, they were just disgracious... :^^;:

I'll take care of that later.
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Off-topic / [Arantor's Rants] Re: Argh.
« on August 19th, 2011, 06:19 PM »
Well, looks like a fun day to you :P

When I woke up this morning, I had a huge headache... It stayed there for about 6 hours so I was unable to work. I simply plugged in my Wii and started playing Xenoblade. (Cool game, BTW.)
It's actually the first time of the day I'm on my computer. (And only for a few minutes because I'm busy IRL and outside Xenoblade[1].)
 1. ...which crashed on me because I had the wonderful idea to visit a large area and unlock a few teleport points, and it just happened that one of the points was the target for a main quest, so when it asked me to go there by foot during the main quest, I simply teleported there and voilà, it crashed... Very funny. So what?
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Features / Re: Public & Private Groups?
« on August 18th, 2011, 08:28 PM »
Users will be able to create boards, blogs and set privacy levels fit them. A bit like at noisen.com.

As for support it depends on volunteer availability. It's the same for all free software I guess.
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Off-topic / Re: To fork or not to fork - in other words: Hi :)
« on August 18th, 2011, 06:50 PM »
Quote from DoctorMalboro on August 10th, 2011, 10:35 PM
JBlaze has in his git account a folder for a SMF fork...
I thought I remembered someone mentioning that :) Found said message!
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Features / Re: These two bytes may not matter to you...
« on August 18th, 2011, 06:22 PM »
@Ara Blunder> Nope, we never posted it ;) I wanted to leave them the surprise :P

Although it won't be a surprise to anyone, knowing our history with the guys. But still, it's good fun.

@Norodo> Well, if you happen to share both the same name and nickname, then you're banned from here yeah :niark: As for other people... They could simply contact us and request special treatment.
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Other software / Re: Fork discussion at SMF
« on August 18th, 2011, 04:57 PM »
Why do you think I mentioned him, DS :P
Quote from Ara Potter on August 18th, 2011, 03:59 PM
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@Ara Potter> Neither can commit while the other codes! Err...
SVN locks are a bitch, ain't they?
Are they the reason for your forehead scar?
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That would make him an Animagus working for the bad guys, who's been hiding in secret for years. There are very few people I would suggest are worthy of such a title...
I don't know, depends if you like Timothy Spall... I've loved him since his part in Red Dwarf Back to Reality, where he delivers this excellent line: "Ah ah, that's a classic!" I always quote it ;)
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You should hear my other half about him.
Well, if I were a girl I'd probably be drooling over him as well... :lol:
Or his characters in H2G2, Sense & Sensibility or Galaxy Quest...

Anyway.

A few minutes ago, the fork board was gone... They had only one topic in it. The rest was gone. I thought, "already the end eh...?" Then it came back a couple of minutes later. Weird!
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Features / Re: These two bytes may not matter to you...
« on August 18th, 2011, 04:35 PM »
Hey Pete! You're spoiling the fun by publishing the license with our Hall of Shame clause :P
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Other software / Re: Fork discussion at SMF
« on August 18th, 2011, 03:53 PM »
His domain name was created in 2002 and has the same expiration date day, which shouldn't have happened if the domain was transferred in the meantime... Usually the expiration date gets reset. Sounds odd to me.

As for JBlaze, I find it odd that you should choose the word 'threatened'... It applies best to vblamer's... Poor users :P

@Ara Potter> Neither can commit while the other codes! Err...

@DC> With 29 posts, you could be Ron Wedgely's rat. :niark:

@AngelinaBelle> Admit it, you have a thing for Snape! :P
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Features / Re: New revs - Public comments
« on August 18th, 2011, 03:44 PM »
All right all right, I'll just get back to work and reply these... :P
Quote from Arantor on August 2nd, 2011, 01:22 PM
Only last night I encountered a change in behaviour between my local PC and the server that my code was deployed onto; it was a schoolboy error on my part for forgetting it (call_user_func_array expects the callee to be specifying its parameters explicitly as references, rather than values, especially given that the caller was using references) - on my 5.2 setup it worked as expected, on a 5.3 box it broke quite interestingly.
It had more bugs than that... I remember fixing a few things when I installed v5.3.
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The reason it doesn't matter in the SMF world is because so much of what goes on is DIY coding rather than letting PHP's own functions do the job. Number formatting, timezone offsets, time generally, etc.
Indeed. It's a bit slower probably, though...
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So, I needed something that would operate during the SD ticket load phase and then proceed to add a template in. Since I'm slightly lazy and had no desire to force yet another file to be loaded when the template was a very simple one, I just put the source and template in the same file.
Yeah, I'd tend to say that's something that's bound to happen, and it's not going to kill anyone.
If you want to encourage users to become modders, then you have to be ready to accept a few quirks like them not following the MVC model. Heck, if it works, and it's nicely written, the MVC stuff isn't a big issue... It starts to become an issue when the program is large. Like Wedge.
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So, getting back to the point: I'd suggest we don't have it load files in template hooks. Any new template will require code to back it up anyway, which means you're going to be loading a file to engage the logic-powering hook anyway, and that new file can load a template if it wants, or it can embed the template if it wants. Then if the mod wants/needs theme specific changes for some random reason, it can be left to the mod author to make it happen if they so desire.
Does that mean you want to remove the template hooks, or simply not change anything and just discourage people from loading files in template hooks? I'm not sure I'm following you...
Quote from Ara Potter on August 7th, 2011, 01:48 PM
It may be version specific but int(4) should do something different to tinyint(4) - in theory, an int(4) should consume at least twice the space of a tinyint(4) and potentially quadruple it; (snip).
Err... I may have forgotten. What were you trying to say? :P
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I don't believe MySQL uses that value for type hinting though, because of the above fact that it could be unreliable, meaning that I think it's always going to allocate 4 byte integers for everything even if it's only a one byte column, so it might be worth glancing through the code sometime to see if we do actually need 4 byte ints everywhere, since I'm not sure.
Oh that would be such a fuuuun job to do.... :whistle:

I'm the one who got stuck with all of the smf/sm renames, so nahh :P
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In other news, at some point we need to make sure that the list of tables that we end up with is in the listed of reserved tables in the DB class(es).
Yes we do... I can already say the media tables aren't in it ;)
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Quote from Ara Potter on August 18th, 2011, 03:30 PM
Nope, because I updated before committing and got your changes first, but mine happened to be nowhere near yours.
By conflict I meant the program stopped because your version wasn't up to date. (It prints out red text and simply says to update it, but per se there's no actual conflict within the file.)
That's one of my specialties these days because you can spend a long time without committing so it's been a long time since I've updated my svn before committing to it ;)
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Incidentally, at some point recently we broke the installer somehow, it never gets onto step 2 :/
Ouch... Much be AeMe. I didn't test the installer after I did all of the changes. But OTOH it should be working, I used the rest of the file as a template...
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More specifically, if there's any kind of error that would force it to fall out of DatabaseSettings(), it's just going back to the start rather than actually showing an error :/
That... Isn't good.

Did you try reverting? That's usually what I do... I revert until it doesn't crash anymore.
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Other software / Re: Fork discussion at SMF
« on August 18th, 2011, 03:30 PM »
Yep, saw that too while I was writing my blog post about forks... (Well, right now I'm busy looking into Pete's latest commits so that'll have to wait :P)

JBlaze is a Friend here, but he hasn't posted in over 3 months. I was considering removing his Friend badge because here, Friend = active member. (I may make later a new group for inactive members, but right now there's only Friends and Consultants. And us.) Now if I do that, he'll think it's a declaration of hostility :lol:

I must say, though, that I'm a bit... circumspect, when it comes to the timing of it all.

It's also interesting that vblamer's and JBlaze's forks will both remove support for PGSQL and SQlite. I'll start counting the number of features they're taking verbatim from the Wedge Feature List... :niark:
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Features / Re: New revs
« on August 18th, 2011, 03:21 PM »
Wow, we committed in the same minute! Did you get a conflict? :P

rev 952
(3 files -1, 7kb)

* Finished AeMe install integration. :) (db_aeva.php, install.php, install.sql)

* Translation. (Admin.french.php)