Wedge

Does it always have a frame around the code window?
Ultimately I ditched n++ just for that... :^^;:

rev 994
(1 file, 9kb)

* Rewrote loadBlock() to allow for different options, not unlike loadLayer(): 'replace' (the original default), 'add' (what used to be the $overwrite parameter), and 'first' (insert at the beginning.) It doesn't take child layers into account yet, as I have yet to decide how I'll handle them. Maybe I should prevent adding blocks to a layer that has child layers... (Load.php)

@ Note: I actually wrote the code to handle replacing blocks in layers that hold a child layer, but it's pretty f*cked up that way... I think I need to sleep on it.

Well, it's not the function, it's what it inspires you... :P
If you see a pyramid in it, is it bad? No, a pyramid means something grand built to last for millennia. You see a spaceship? That's because Wedge explores strange new webs, to seek out newbies and new communities. You see a wedge? That's your problem :PA real wedge isn't exactly very sexy :P
The only way it can 'work' is by using a wedge's shadow to extrude part of the text. But this wasn't very well accepted in this topic, so I gave up on the idea.Sure, it's our own personal slogan -- 'simple math'. The 'really' was just put there because we couldn't find an adverb that started in 'F'... :P Still, after all the recent (and not so recent) clashes with the SMF team, I'm not exactly eager to have ANYTHING in Wedge that looks like it's a stab at SMF.

And this allows me to discuss something you mentioned recently. Yes, we're not in touch with them, yes, we have problems with several of its members. But we're not fighting SMF, we're not fighting the SMF community, and we're not fighting the SMF team itself -- we're fighting back for what we received back in the summer of 2010. Anyone who was NOT involved in our issues has no reasons to feel concerned by our issues with the SMF team. I don't know how else to say it...! 'SMF team' is just a convenient term to describe those we had problems with.Yes.I think it was fine. The font wasn't. Don't get me wrong, I love that font -- I wouldn't have built my first logo on it otherwise. But it just doesn't apply to 'wedge' well. Its 'g' is too strong, too weighted, which is probably why you unconsciously trimmed it.Agreed.And I stand by my choice... But I simply decided it wasn't as professional as I wanted it to look ;)Not even close. Wedge is me and Pete -- it's not a 'business'. But it still doesn't mean it shouldn't be used by businesses and serious websites. What's that saying already..? Do everything seriously but don't take yourself seriously? Something like that...And that little something is what makes the difference.

Okay, so I tried to put CJ's logo online earlier, and it didn't work at all on the brownish background, so I gave up on that, tried other variations, gave up again, then changed the font to a light Helvetica again, and to improve readability I re-inserted it into the wedge shape... I've put it in the header. Doesn't look fantastic, but at least it doesn't distract too much.I guess so. But what happens when you can't get the concept to work :)

rev 993
(93 files, how amusing -- 89kb)

* Renamed sub-templates to blocks, and all associated variables etc. Updated related documentation and comments. (93 files, not listing them all!)

- Removed a comment that looked like a failed keystroke, or a work in progress that got forgotten in the process. Since it's security related, I felt I should mention it... (Security.php)

Pretty good variation :)

I don't...No, it's not the same.
Redundancy only comes if it's the same medium. There's a wedge word that says what the software is called, and a wedge shape to represent it, to symbolize it. Only, (1) not everyone speaks perfect English and knows what 'wedge' means, so it's important for me to have something that carries the idea graphically, (2) the point has always been to be able to show either the full logo, or only one part of it (the text, or the shape), separately.
For instance, what do you do with the favicon if you don't have any graphical representation? I tried with a 'we' icon, and it didn't look fantastic. It's barely readable, for starters...

When it comes to the text itself, I'd like to have it as simple as possible. At best, it should have two distinctive features. What never clicked with me in Bloc's logo, as good as it is, is that it has three distinctive figures -- the very specific font (Kaffesaltz, whatever the name), the horizontal line on the 'we', and the missing bottom on the 'g'. Three is too many.
As Pete said, the Microsoft logo works by itself, and it has only two distinctive features: the font, and the small bit of text that was removed from the first 'o'.
Some logos are too dull. For instance, the 'github' logo relies entirely on its distinctive font, nothing else. The Noisen logo has two distinctive features: the very peculiar font, and the color of the final 'n', that makes the 'noise' stand out from the rest. Heck, I made this logo in five minutes and never felt the need to change it -- it always was perfect in my mind.

Now, Noisen wasn't really a brand per se, just a hobby of mine. So it didn't really need a shape to represent it. It may not ALWAYS need one in any case. But I felt Wedge, because of its multiple meanings, could use the wedge shape in addition to it. But it has to be able to stand on its own, recognizable, even when removing the shape -- or only keeping the shape.

Wedge, the software itself, in its default theme, shows the shape alone, in the footer. It has no links or anything, just the shape. It's like a signature. It doesn't draw attention away, when anything saying 'Wedge' in a logo would do just that. I wanted a shape to strenghten brand recognition. It may be a mistake, but it's what I envision with it all.Serif is too detailed. It only works on logos with no distinctive features whatsover -- and then it's dull.Blue and brown are neutral colors in all cultures. We've already discussed how red might be offensive to some cultures. Even I, without reading about it, felt that way. Red is a strong color, it could even argued that it's another distinctive feature (so that would make four just for Bloc's logo...)

Oh, and Bjorn -- don't be annoyed by the shape. I actually always loved your shape and always wanted to use it. The shape right now is a bit different because when you never attached (AFAIK) a fullsize version so CJ had to remake it from scratch. I added the secondary color because I felt it would help make it recognizable even at very small sizes.

Believe me -- everything I did on that stupid logo was not by accident. It's all thought out. It's overthought. And because of the overthinking, I always encouraged others to give me their own variations on my logos, adding a little bit of 'weirdness' or just randomness to it. I'd still like to thank you and CJJ (and everyone else really) for your suggestions, your different views on the logo.The 'sub-credo' will probably come back at some point, but I removed it because I felt it was a bit inappropriate to advertise Wedge against SMF (even by just recognizing the legacy, it somehow strengthens the idea that it's "better than it"), when we simply don't have any download on offer.
So... It'll come back. But only when I feel confident enough to add it back.

Oh, and of course, as always the rule is that there's no rule. If you like a logo better than another and you want to give Wedge some publicity, just save the logo and put it into your signature. Chances are you may even get others to reuse it and potentially have it become the new official logo.
I don't see what you mean. For what it's worth, my reduced logos are much more readable than the example you just posted...? Precisely because the shadow surrounds all of the characters, rather than just the bottom left or whatever...
It may work better on a dark background, but not on a white background. :^^;:

:edit: Adding the current logo here for archival purposes, because I'll be replacing it in a minute.



:edit: Not entirely happy with the logo in the header but I have to go IRL -- be back in a couple of hours at the worst.

Does everyone die but the two usual? :lol:


Now THAT would be typical RTD...

I'll watch that later.