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The Pub / Re: Logo Madness
« on December 29th, 2011, 10:58 PM »
Updated the poll with the current lot... :whistle:
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Features / Re: New revs
« on December 29th, 2011, 10:55 PM »
rev 1230
(1 file, 1kb)
- Once again committed my work-in-progress of sbox.js, most of which will soon go to the trashcan... Sorry, sorry! (sbox.js)
(1 file, 1kb)
- Once again committed my work-in-progress of sbox.js, most of which will soon go to the trashcan... Sorry, sorry! (sbox.js)
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Features / Re: New revs
« on December 29th, 2011, 10:46 PM »
rev 1229
(3 files, 11kb) -- oops, once again committed my WIP for sbox... Reverting in the next commit.
* Rewrote mouse hover functions to behave as if the user was navigating with the keyboard. This allows for the same animations, and to avoid using two different background colors (selected and hover) in the list box. (sbox.js, index.css)
! Fixed invisible select boxes in 'Add Rules' page of PM area. (PersonalMessage.template.php)
(3 files, 11kb) -- oops, once again committed my WIP for sbox... Reverting in the next commit.
* Rewrote mouse hover functions to behave as if the user was navigating with the keyboard. This allows for the same animations, and to avoid using two different background colors (selected and hover) in the list box. (sbox.js, index.css)
! Fixed invisible select boxes in 'Add Rules' page of PM area. (PersonalMessage.template.php)
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Features / Re: New revs
« on December 29th, 2011, 10:16 PM »
rev 1228
(4 files, 6kb)
* Rewrote select box navigation logic to match normal select boxes' behavior as much as possible. Basically, clicking outside of an opened select box or pressing the Space bar will revert the selection to the original's. Pressing Return will confirm it. Same for Tab, although in this case it's different from the original behavior (a personal preference.) Behavior is also buggy in conjunction with the post editor, because of conflicting events. Ahh well. Can't have everything... Current gzipped size: 2110 bytes. Still acceptable. (sbox.js)
* Added a small hack to the post editor to specify a tabindex on select boxes in such a way that they'll be seen in the order they appear, rather than after all elements have been tabbed through. (Class-Editor.php)
! Fixed a couple of issues due to select box animations not being properly completed and breaking subsequent actions. (sbox.js)
! Non-dropdown select boxes such as the local avatar selector were made invisible. Oops. (index.css)
! Fixed styling for post editor's select boxes. Should be good now... (sections.css)
@ Personal thought... I'm starting to regret implement the new select box system. Although I'm pretty much done with it, I'm not exactly eager to check all existing select boxes in Wedge and see if they behave as expected... :-/
(4 files, 6kb)
* Rewrote select box navigation logic to match normal select boxes' behavior as much as possible. Basically, clicking outside of an opened select box or pressing the Space bar will revert the selection to the original's. Pressing Return will confirm it. Same for Tab, although in this case it's different from the original behavior (a personal preference.) Behavior is also buggy in conjunction with the post editor, because of conflicting events. Ahh well. Can't have everything... Current gzipped size: 2110 bytes. Still acceptable. (sbox.js)
* Added a small hack to the post editor to specify a tabindex on select boxes in such a way that they'll be seen in the order they appear, rather than after all elements have been tabbed through. (Class-Editor.php)
! Fixed a couple of issues due to select box animations not being properly completed and breaking subsequent actions. (sbox.js)
! Non-dropdown select boxes such as the local avatar selector were made invisible. Oops. (index.css)
! Fixed styling for post editor's select boxes. Should be good now... (sections.css)
@ Personal thought... I'm starting to regret implement the new select box system. Although I'm pretty much done with it, I'm not exactly eager to check all existing select boxes in Wedge and see if they behave as expected... :-/
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Archived fixes / [FAQ] Re: Why isn't wedge.org running Wedge?
« on December 29th, 2011, 06:28 PM »
You can always participate a lot, get noticed, be made a Friend, then participate again a lot, be technical about everything, and then request for SVN access and you may get it... :P
Of course, by then we may already have gone public... :whistle:
Of course, by then we may already have gone public... :whistle:
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Features / Re: Selectbox
« on December 29th, 2011, 06:27 PM »
Okay, considering how no one gives a damn about page optimization (does that mean I should reset my code..??), let's go back on topic...
I'm having some trouble with the onchange event on select boxes.
Basically, in a regular select box, the change event is triggered when you click a different entry in the list. Okay.
When it comes to keyboard navigation, it's more complicated... You focus on the select box (tab), press Space to open it (I don't know why it didn't work a few days ago...), you navigate with the keys, and you press Enter. ONLY when you press enter, will the display area be modified and the onchange event be triggered.
That is, if you (a) press SPACE to close the select box, or (b) press TAB to switch to another select box, the current selection is cancelled (i.e. not reflected in the display area), the list box is closed, and either gets the focus (space), or the next form element gets the focus (tab).
Now, if the select box is closed but focused, using arrow keys will navigate the list and fire an onchange event every time, which isn't great when said event tends to jump to a new page or whatever (because you then have no idea what you selected that resulted in this action), so I don't want to do that.
The 'solution' would be to rewrite the code to behave like a regular select box, and simply open the list box when navigating, i.e. never navigate without the list box opened. The only drawbacks are: (1) it takes more code (although at this point, it's not a big deal), and (2) when the onchange event would usually change the form's appearance, e.g. the custom field creator, where you switch between social media profiles like Facebook, if the select box is focused but not opened, pressing the down arrow key will immediately update the entire form with placeholders for these sites. Which, really, is pretty cool... But I'm not sure there's a point in that, except the fact that it looks cool.
Fishing for opinions...
:edit: Moved this topic to public... Not exactly sure why I created it in the private area.
I'm having some trouble with the onchange event on select boxes.
Basically, in a regular select box, the change event is triggered when you click a different entry in the list. Okay.
When it comes to keyboard navigation, it's more complicated... You focus on the select box (tab), press Space to open it (I don't know why it didn't work a few days ago...), you navigate with the keys, and you press Enter. ONLY when you press enter, will the display area be modified and the onchange event be triggered.
That is, if you (a) press SPACE to close the select box, or (b) press TAB to switch to another select box, the current selection is cancelled (i.e. not reflected in the display area), the list box is closed, and either gets the focus (space), or the next form element gets the focus (tab).
Now, if the select box is closed but focused, using arrow keys will navigate the list and fire an onchange event every time, which isn't great when said event tends to jump to a new page or whatever (because you then have no idea what you selected that resulted in this action), so I don't want to do that.
The 'solution' would be to rewrite the code to behave like a regular select box, and simply open the list box when navigating, i.e. never navigate without the list box opened. The only drawbacks are: (1) it takes more code (although at this point, it's not a big deal), and (2) when the onchange event would usually change the form's appearance, e.g. the custom field creator, where you switch between social media profiles like Facebook, if the select box is focused but not opened, pressing the down arrow key will immediately update the entire form with placeholders for these sites. Which, really, is pretty cool... But I'm not sure there's a point in that, except the fact that it looks cool.
Fishing for opinions...
Posted: December 29th, 2011, 06:24 PM
:edit: Moved this topic to public... Not exactly sure why I created it in the private area.
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The Pub / Re: Logo Madness
« on December 29th, 2011, 04:53 PM »
Hey guys... Anyone up for giving feedback on the last few logos.....? :unsure:
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The Pub / Re: Will Wedge be a forum with an integrated Gallery(Aeva Media)?
« on December 29th, 2011, 02:43 PM »
- Yes, Aeva Media is integrated and there's no way to remove it.
- No, it's not THAT integrated yet. Namely, the avatar and attachment system is still SMF's. I never got around to do the jump, as I estimate it would take several months to complete (and be satisfied with.)
- You can already easily put gallery images into forum posts with Aeva Media, as far as I know... Just post the corresponding 'smg' tag ('media' tag in Wedge) that's given to you in the item pages... You can even post an entire album this way, etc... There's a long help file explaining what parameters the smg tag accepts.
- There's already such an option in Aeva Media 2.x (the paid for version, which is integrated for free into Wedge.) However, it's not particularly geared towards this kind of activity. It simply allows you to specify the URL of a distant image instead of a distant video or local drive's image. Then it will create preview and thumbnail accordingly. So, hmm, yeah, I guess it can be seen as supporting dropbox etc, but it's not tested...
- As a reminder, Aeva Media 1.x and 2.x development ended last year. There are no plans to resume development for SMF. Any new features will be in Wedge only (but, to be honest, I have too much work on Wedge itself to be able to think of anything useful to add to its media area.)
- No, it's not THAT integrated yet. Namely, the avatar and attachment system is still SMF's. I never got around to do the jump, as I estimate it would take several months to complete (and be satisfied with.)
- You can already easily put gallery images into forum posts with Aeva Media, as far as I know... Just post the corresponding 'smg' tag ('media' tag in Wedge) that's given to you in the item pages... You can even post an entire album this way, etc... There's a long help file explaining what parameters the smg tag accepts.
- There's already such an option in Aeva Media 2.x (the paid for version, which is integrated for free into Wedge.) However, it's not particularly geared towards this kind of activity. It simply allows you to specify the URL of a distant image instead of a distant video or local drive's image. Then it will create preview and thumbnail accordingly. So, hmm, yeah, I guess it can be seen as supporting dropbox etc, but it's not tested...
- As a reminder, Aeva Media 1.x and 2.x development ended last year. There are no plans to resume development for SMF. Any new features will be in Wedge only (but, to be honest, I have too much work on Wedge itself to be able to think of anything useful to add to its media area.)
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Features / Re: New revs - Public comments
« on December 29th, 2011, 02:35 PM »
so...Quote from live627 on December 29th, 2011, 05:23 AM I see. But from what I see, it's simply $pluginsdir with '\' turned into '/' (i.e. Windows paths to Linux paths.)
I'm not familiar with that part of the code, as Pete wrote it as part of his plugin code.
Can you suggest a fix that would only deal with $here...? Like, in Subs-Cache.php:
Code: [Select]
Into something like...
Code: [Select]
(I don't know if that's what causes trouble to you. And maybe dirname($file) also needs to be rewritten...?)Quote I doubt anything will break because I definitely double-checked all of my changes, but never say never...Quote And everyone's happy!
Yes. Actually, the problem seems to be in Load.php, where $sane_path is defined. Replacing it with $pluginsdir solves the problem.Quote from Nao on December 28th, 2011, 12:35 PM As for $here, does that still mean there's a bug for me to fix...?
I'm not familiar with that part of the code, as Pete wrote it as part of his plugin code.
Can you suggest a fix that would only deal with $here...? Like, in Subs-Cache.php:
$final .= str_replace('$here', '..' . str_replace($boarddir, '', dirname($file)), file_get_contents($file));Into something like...
$final .= str_replace('$here', '..' . str_replace(str_replace('\\', '/', $boarddir), '', dirname($file)), file_get_contents($file));(I don't know if that's what causes trouble to you. And maybe dirname($file) also needs to be rewritten...?)
Flawless! Actually, I tested only the post area.
My plugin can now use a dynamic string in place of %1$s. :D
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The Pub / Re: Logo Madness
« on December 29th, 2011, 02:24 PM »Pixel Mansion NAO - Where ALL logos look great! - Learn something every day. :cool:
Let me explain - In my case I have a tendency to favour themes that offer a custom background which gives administrators the ability to tailor their websites with a more personalised feel. For instance whilst working on my site, I discovered it wasnt easy synchronizing the styling of my forum to homepage (particularly with my limited coding knowledge). Using two entirely different programmes with bridge isnt the way to go but it was the only way I could package what I had in mind, together. Coupling the best blogging programme with best forum @ the time was the goal. Three years in the making and still going strong. The bridging was the obstacle. So yeah custom backdrops are a necessity for folks like moi. Tried the Joomla thing but ended up with WP.
Create a custom.css file
Add:
#main_content
background: url($here/my_background.jpg)Save the file to your Themes/default/skins/ folder. Put your my_background.jpg file over there as well.
Reload page. Done. No theme edits, since custom.css is only for 'you', the site owner, to modify.
I also wanted my blog or homepage to resemble a traditional webpage instead of the portal thing...I find that sites that tend to use portals all look the same...Wanting your websites look to be unique shouldnt be frowned upon and again not all themes offer this customisation. Its easy for coders to produce something @ will but we're relegated to grovelling. :)
What the heck it doesnt really matter, each to their own..
Theyre all good. Just got to take the plunge and settle on one. Lots more important things to worry about....Did I say that! :lol:Quote
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The Pub / Re: Logo Madness
« on December 29th, 2011, 12:38 PM »
What is Oracle from PM? I only know of the Batman character and the 26 GB database my girlfriend currently has installed on one of my portable hard drives.
What is PM, anyway?
(Gosh, that logo looks so great...)
What is PM, anyway?
(Gosh, that logo looks so great...)
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The Pub / Re: Logo Madness
« on December 29th, 2011, 11:28 AM »Not bad, not bad @ all. A slight reduction of axe OR (crown) perhaps?
Meh, maybe it could even be bigger...
Talk about of being not so aware of the thought one puts into into artworks, - imagination etc...You guys are simply godlike in what you do. Takes some pretty special individuals to undertake projects of this magnitude. We're obviously all behind you on that score.
A weak moment is what it was..I overlooked the fact that whatever you were going to come up with it would be a core theme and not simply a mod... forget I askedQuote What's a transparent backdrop...?
No I used the standard typeface without vector alteration. How was the latest PNG btw?
You sure about that. :lol:
So... Another variation then. The gray/grey one is located just above the we|dge separation, but OTOH obviously it's not as well centered now.
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Features / Re: New revs
« on December 29th, 2011, 12:43 AM »
rev 1227
(8 files, 8kb)
! Fixed select boxes in post editor. Focused style still sucks a bit. (post.js, sections.css)
+ Added previews of font face, font size and font color inside the post editor select boxes. Always wanted to do that... (post.js)
* Reordered colors in color selector in post editor. Ooooh, rainbow! (Class-Editor.php)
* Simplified $post_errors code by putting long_message errors into an array, like mismatched_tags. I hope I didn't screw anything up, as I did this quite in a hurry. John, I'm counting on you to check this out :) (Class-Editor.php, JSModify.php, PersonalMessage.php, Post.php, Post2.php)
! Always put scripts to the bottom if using IE6. It's too slow. (index.template.php)
(8 files, 8kb)
! Fixed select boxes in post editor. Focused style still sucks a bit. (post.js, sections.css)
+ Added previews of font face, font size and font color inside the post editor select boxes. Always wanted to do that... (post.js)
* Reordered colors in color selector in post editor. Ooooh, rainbow! (Class-Editor.php)
* Simplified $post_errors code by putting long_message errors into an array, like mismatched_tags. I hope I didn't screw anything up, as I did this quite in a hurry. John, I'm counting on you to check this out :) (Class-Editor.php, JSModify.php, PersonalMessage.php, Post.php, Post2.php)
! Always put scripts to the bottom if using IE6. It's too slow. (index.template.php)
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The Pub / Re: Logo Madness
« on December 28th, 2011, 05:03 PM »
How about this...?
Certainly an interesting direction.Quote from Spr1te on December 28th, 2011, 02:57 PM Oh... The only requirement is to get a great logo out.
The secondary requirement is to get most people to like it :P
My request about the logo shape is mainly due to having too many offers that just didn't ring a bell with me. In the end, yeah, I get to choose the logo (although I certainly wouldn't make the final decision without Pete), but it doesn't mean there's no way to convince me that 'something else' is better. Actually, I think I've acquired some ability to immediately spot the quality of someone's work. A year ago, I probably wouldn't have given a damn about Bloc's, Dziner's or CJ's works etc. Not that I would have dismissed them as bad -- I just wouldn't have seen the thought put into them.
How long have you been lurking here? Are you someone from sm.org with a different nickname?Quote You mustn't have been lurking for a long time then... :P
There is no official release date planned, although I'm really starting to want to go through the alpha release. Actually I was a few hours away from converting Wedge.org to use Wedge, last month, and then Pete said that we should have the thought system ready to go because he used that a lot. So I started work on it and it took several weeks, then I wasn't happy with the thought privacy select box, so I decided to write a custom select box, and now I've probably got a few more weeks of work left just to make sure that all select boxes are correctly converted... Uh. There's also this annoying bit with the custom scrollbar -- I want to have one, but I can't seem to get it right for now. It's like, every day there's a new thing to do that I can't release Wedge without. Add to that the multiple bug reports I've had these last few days... I'd really like to go alpha as soon as possible.
Originally I wanted to have the attachment system use the Aeva Media code, but I don't think this will happen before Final is out (or even later). I've pretty much settled on writing an internal attachment -> media converter anyway. It's not like it's impossible to do, eh.Quote What's a transparent backdrop...?Quote I haven't given a look at Eras itself, but on the logo, it looks like the text is skewed/stretched vertically.
Okay. I'm in love with my latest attempt. I wanna have its puppies.
Certainly an interesting direction.
Loosening the grip a little NAO ?..Seem to recall you were fairly rigid in yr requirement re. introduction of additional effects to logotype. Your baby I guess...do what you will...You have my blessing.
The secondary requirement is to get most people to like it :P
My request about the logo shape is mainly due to having too many offers that just didn't ring a bell with me. In the end, yeah, I get to choose the logo (although I certainly wouldn't make the final decision without Pete), but it doesn't mean there's no way to convince me that 'something else' is better. Actually, I think I've acquired some ability to immediately spot the quality of someone's work. A year ago, I probably wouldn't have given a damn about Bloc's, Dziner's or CJ's works etc. Not that I would have dismissed them as bad -- I just wouldn't have seen the thought put into them.
How long have you been lurking here? Are you someone from sm.org with a different nickname?
When's the official release
There is no official release date planned, although I'm really starting to want to go through the alpha release. Actually I was a few hours away from converting Wedge.org to use Wedge, last month, and then Pete said that we should have the thought system ready to go because he used that a lot. So I started work on it and it took several weeks, then I wasn't happy with the thought privacy select box, so I decided to write a custom select box, and now I've probably got a few more weeks of work left just to make sure that all select boxes are correctly converted... Uh. There's also this annoying bit with the custom scrollbar -- I want to have one, but I can't seem to get it right for now. It's like, every day there's a new thing to do that I can't release Wedge without. Add to that the multiple bug reports I've had these last few days... I'd really like to go alpha as soon as possible.
Originally I wanted to have the attachment system use the Aeva Media code, but I don't think this will happen before Final is out (or even later). I've pretty much settled on writing an internal attachment -> media converter anyway. It's not like it's impossible to do, eh.
and will it incorporate a transparent backdrop - Just love what is able to be achieved with them. Can make a plain looking site look so much more interesting.
Not sure what you mean by deformed NAO, as far as Im aware Eras has been around for quite a while.
Posted: December 28th, 2011, 03:20 PM
Okay. I'm in love with my latest attempt. I wanna have its puppies.