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Features / Re: Selectbox
« on December 31st, 2011, 05:41 PM »
Just for 'fun'... Here's what I'm having trouble with.
User clicks select box "Label selected" in PM area. This triggers a "focus" event, loadLabelChoices(). Which fills in the select box with the proper values.
That's the theory... Now, in practice:
- if I fill the select box again, then I need to refresh the Wedge version of it... So at the end of the function, I'll call the refresh function.
- said refresh function will call .focus() on the original.
- which triggers loadLabelChoices, which triggers the refresh, etc...
It's not exactly an infinite loop because I've added protections, but this is enough to screw up the process.
I've been on this for two days... Trying to find a 'proper' way to launch a refresh without having to say, "okay guys, we don't want you to focus the original... Okay?". Found many techniques, each time it fails somewhere.
Now, the funny thing is that Wedge only has TWO FREAKING select boxes in the entire codebase that bother with the focus event... (This one, and the JumpTo.) And both of these will actually never make use of the focus accessibility feature, because as soon as you click an option, it goes to another page...
I'm just posting to... well, make sure that it's on a record. Select boxes suck!!
User clicks select box "Label selected" in PM area. This triggers a "focus" event, loadLabelChoices(). Which fills in the select box with the proper values.
That's the theory... Now, in practice:
- if I fill the select box again, then I need to refresh the Wedge version of it... So at the end of the function, I'll call the refresh function.
- said refresh function will call .focus() on the original.
- which triggers loadLabelChoices, which triggers the refresh, etc...
It's not exactly an infinite loop because I've added protections, but this is enough to screw up the process.
I've been on this for two days... Trying to find a 'proper' way to launch a refresh without having to say, "okay guys, we don't want you to focus the original... Okay?". Found many techniques, each time it fails somewhere.
Now, the funny thing is that Wedge only has TWO FREAKING select boxes in the entire codebase that bother with the focus event... (This one, and the JumpTo.) And both of these will actually never make use of the focus accessibility feature, because as soon as you click an option, it goes to another page...
I'm just posting to... well, make sure that it's on a record. Select boxes suck!!
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The Pub / Re: OpenID
« on December 31st, 2011, 12:54 AM »
OpenID is too complicated to use for most users. Heck, for a long time you actually needed to have a website of your own and add some tags into the HTML...!
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Features / Re: Selectbox
« on December 31st, 2011, 12:31 AM »
Worst nightmare in months... Every time I fix a bug in this, it creates a new one. Frankly, if I didn't know better, I'd just come to the conclusion that I suck at JavaScript!
It isn't the case -- it's just that it's a fucked up concept. The main issue is with event transmission. I've looked into other plugins and they all have strange ways to deal with these -- and they're not very good at dealing with internal modifications like adding an option dynamically, etc.
Anyway, I just wanted to post that, next time I want to implement a library that "seems easy enough to do", someone should tell me to give up immediately because it's gonna bite my in the ass... :lol:
It isn't the case -- it's just that it's a fucked up concept. The main issue is with event transmission. I've looked into other plugins and they all have strange ways to deal with these -- and they're not very good at dealing with internal modifications like adding an option dynamically, etc.
Anyway, I just wanted to post that, next time I want to implement a library that "seems easy enough to do", someone should tell me to give up immediately because it's gonna bite my in the ass... :lol:
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The Pub / Re: OpenID
« on December 30th, 2011, 11:13 PM »
Well... Actually, if I remember correctly, we remove OpenID entirely long ago, because its support was pretty average in SMF, and Pete preferred to rewrite it to take a newer version into account, or something.
(Nothing was done on that front, though. But I'm not sure it's very important...? If only because most people would rather have FB Connect support.)
(Nothing was done on that front, though. But I'm not sure it's very important...? If only because most people would rather have FB Connect support.)
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Features / Re: New revs - Public comments
« on December 30th, 2011, 04:32 PM »
So... How would you solve that...?
Yup, I remember our PMs (sorry I didn't follow up on the last one but it started to be taxing even on me... :sob:), and I deeply sympathize with you. Things are happening, not all them good. I would perfectly understand that you'd want to resign, however I'd rather you choose to be seen as 'on hiatus'.
Bloc-- don't bother with him, he's too unstable emotionally. How many times have we had to deal with his issues? How many times did he start getting angry at us because we weren't enthusiastic about one of his endeavours? I'm not saying we're better than he is, but when I see him think that he's "the better skilled one" (same topic) and complain about our reception (let's be clear: he's referring to my saying I'd already gone through this path, which was far from being insulting!), and as a result he asked for his account to be removed from Wedge for the Nth time... Meh, he's got his issues, and he's certainly not in a position to tell you what you are and what you can do.
One thing he's true about, on that topic, is that you can't expect to get anything in return from working on SMF-related projects. I already experienced that with Aeva, now with Wedge... I probably should have gone to WordPress, but love has its reasons that reason doesn't know... I made my peace with that idea long ago!
Yup, I remember our PMs (sorry I didn't follow up on the last one but it started to be taxing even on me... :sob:), and I deeply sympathize with you. Things are happening, not all them good. I would perfectly understand that you'd want to resign, however I'd rather you choose to be seen as 'on hiatus'.
Bloc-- don't bother with him, he's too unstable emotionally. How many times have we had to deal with his issues? How many times did he start getting angry at us because we weren't enthusiastic about one of his endeavours? I'm not saying we're better than he is, but when I see him think that he's "the better skilled one" (same topic) and complain about our reception (let's be clear: he's referring to my saying I'd already gone through this path, which was far from being insulting!), and as a result he asked for his account to be removed from Wedge for the Nth time... Meh, he's got his issues, and he's certainly not in a position to tell you what you are and what you can do.
One thing he's true about, on that topic, is that you can't expect to get anything in return from working on SMF-related projects. I already experienced that with Aeva, now with Wedge... I probably should have gone to WordPress, but love has its reasons that reason doesn't know... I made my peace with that idea long ago!
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The Pub / Re: Will Wedge be a forum with an integrated Gallery(Aeva Media)?
« on December 30th, 2011, 02:40 PM »I see, you don't plan on realese it free if there is no more support for it? Like a 2012 gift :)
And anyway, my experience with Aeva and SMF has been quite... interesting, to be polite. So many people who thought I "owed" them a working gallery system... It was outrageous. Dragooon and I made Aeva out of passion. Passion is very important to make something so huge. I lost interest because it was too much hassle for the return on investment -- i.e. too many annoying users, too little money earned.
This has been discussed so many times already...
Yeah, looked through everything, can't see any places that you can adjust the numbers, but i'm new to this so maby there is a place you can.
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The Pub / Re: Will Wedge be a forum with an integrated Gallery(Aeva Media)?
« on December 30th, 2011, 02:15 PM »
- v2.x is the commercial version, you have to pay for it. Only, it comes with no tech support these days, because I've given up on SMF.
- I think it's a setting in the admin area.
- I think it's a setting in the admin area.
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Features / Re: New revs - Public comments
« on December 30th, 2011, 01:47 PM »
Okay, so, to elaborate: I don't know *why* $sane_path is set at all. I suspect that Pete had issues with his plugins on his local install. But, OTOH, I also have no idea how this has any influence on $here, which is why I don't feel comfortable tackling this problem. So, maybe my 'fix' would be just a quick hack that needs to be removed later, but at least it wouldn't break anything...
Ah, well... I have a strange feeling that I'm on my own, these days... :(
I'm working on rev 1231, and Pete's last commit (apart from rev 1183 that consisted in adding a semi-colon) was rev 1168, back in November 17. That's 6 weeks and 60+ revisions without a commit. A new record I'm afraid...
Maybe we should start giving SVN commit access to some people... Because at the current pace, even with me spending my entire Christmas holidays on Wedge, it won't be out before 2014... :^^;:
Ah, well... I have a strange feeling that I'm on my own, these days... :(
I'm working on rev 1231, and Pete's last commit (apart from rev 1183 that consisted in adding a semi-colon) was rev 1168, back in November 17. That's 6 weeks and 60+ revisions without a commit. A new record I'm afraid...
Maybe we should start giving SVN commit access to some people... Because at the current pace, even with me spending my entire Christmas holidays on Wedge, it won't be out before 2014... :^^;:
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The Pub / Re: Logo Madness
« on December 30th, 2011, 01:36 PM »
Yeah, I tried making it into a div and crap like that (it's only temporary) but failed to make it hoverable as a square (regardless of image size) within a single line of code, so I figured, who cares... As I said, it's only temporary anyway.
Plus, if you hover towards the alternate logo, it'll show up again... As long as the pointer is in the 165x97 area where that logo is shown, you're safe.
(The problem never occurred before because I always made sure to keep both logos in a 165x97 area.)
Plus, if you hover towards the alternate logo, it'll show up again... As long as the pointer is in the 165x97 area where that logo is shown, you're safe.
(The problem never occurred before because I always made sure to keep both logos in a 165x97 area.)
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The Pub / Re: Logo Madness
« on December 30th, 2011, 10:15 AM »
Yeah... That's the thing: in my opinion, the third logo is very much a "professional" logo, in that it would look great on stationery. The other two look great horizontally and as a website header.
I'm actually tempted to keep the two, even though it's not 'clean' to have two different text styles. But I think what matters the most, is that the logo itself remains the same either way...
Heck, I'm surprised to say -- this is the first time I have a shot at a recognizable, cool logo like Firefox's. It's probably why it inspired me to have a bit of a designer flair with the third logo here.
It doesn't look as good as Firefox's 16x16 icon version, but then again I don't think ANY icon looks as good as it... It's, like, my mètre-étalon -- my standard meter.
I'm actually tempted to keep the two, even though it's not 'clean' to have two different text styles. But I think what matters the most, is that the logo itself remains the same either way...
Heck, I'm surprised to say -- this is the first time I have a shot at a recognizable, cool logo like Firefox's. It's probably why it inspired me to have a bit of a designer flair with the third logo here.
It doesn't look as good as Firefox's 16x16 icon version, but then again I don't think ANY icon looks as good as it... It's, like, my mètre-étalon -- my standard meter.
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The Pub / Re: Will Wedge be a forum with an integrated Gallery(Aeva Media)?
« on December 30th, 2011, 10:03 AM »
There's a shortcut to *upload* an image from within a post and have it inserted into your post immediately.
It is only available in Aeva Media 2.x and Wedge, though. Not that it's HARD to implement or anything... It's just a feature I didn't want to bother to write, so after numerous requests I wrote it for the 'commercial' version.
It is only available in Aeva Media 2.x and Wedge, though. Not that it's HARD to implement or anything... It's just a feature I didn't want to bother to write, so after numerous requests I wrote it for the 'commercial' version.
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The Pub / Re: Logo Madness
« on December 30th, 2011, 08:51 AM »
Unintended but I like that. I love Sydney!
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The Pub / Re: Will Wedge be a forum with an integrated Gallery(Aeva Media)?
« on December 30th, 2011, 06:46 AM »
Aeva media has no match even in paid forum land. It's just fact.
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Features / Re: New revs - Public comments
« on December 30th, 2011, 06:44 AM »
I'm not sure. Pete? Peeete...?