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Other software / Re: A little something I threw together
« on January 5th, 2012, 03:07 PM »
- I like SMF's installer, myself... Don't see what there's not to like, especially compared with earlier versions... We kept it pretty much the same in Wedge, except for a few touches of Wine.
- Why is sm.org a waste of time? I wouldn't know myself since I'm still banned after all this time...
- Wedge has rounded corners on inputs and has a custom select box as you may have seen in the dedicated topic. I doubt, however, that it's available as early as in the installer...
- I'm not sure that popups are best in terms of usability...? It's always tempting to use them, I know!
- Can't speak for Pete. He's been AWOL for 4 days now... I have a feeling he's going to quit. :(
- Why is sm.org a waste of time? I wouldn't know myself since I'm still banned after all this time...
- Wedge has rounded corners on inputs and has a custom select box as you may have seen in the dedicated topic. I doubt, however, that it's available as early as in the installer...
- I'm not sure that popups are best in terms of usability...? It's always tempting to use them, I know!
- Can't speak for Pete. He's been AWOL for 4 days now... I have a feeling he's going to quit. :(
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The Pub / Re: Logo Madness
« on January 4th, 2012, 11:59 PM »Hm, I am not sure how I should take that..as a challenge or just sarcasm?
Just because I'm put off by your tendency to request for account deletion, doesn't mean I don't understand the reasons behind your behavior. I won't judge you on that. I'm only interested in work, anyway. (I think you noticed the 24/7 thingy.)
However, its tempting to vote again now when you put up a poll with new logos and I stand by it: you have done(and others) much better logos than the current ones, which lately have gone from a nice looking "leaf"(still not much to do with wedges) to a "plant" of sorts.
I've done countless logos I did *not* post, by the way... I'm only posting the ones I think deserve of being posted. Not all of them are worthy of being *used*, though. Just kept as a souvenir... Over the year, I posted dozens of logos, and I think I could pick a dozen of them and still be unable to decided which I like best.
And even then, it's not about what I like best -- it's about what gives Wedge a 'personality', if you may.
As a wanna-be designer, I know that simplicity is better than number of features. I also know that sometimes, you can get away with a beautiful busy design by ensuring nothing around it is busy. That's why I removed the slogan from the 'busy' logo, and why I worked mainly on readability.
Still doesn't stop me from having a parallel file where I'm testing variations on the 'sober' design. See my post just above, I edited it with my latest version (PT Sans + gradient icon.)
It doesn't make sense to the name, it doesn't look particular nice either, just ..strange. The shape is very reminiscent of the Sydney opera house which I believe was meant as "sails" or perhaps "waves", can't remember.
The font looks plastered on top of it without regard for its contrast with the shape,
so you are left with that shape..and puzzling out what to make of it.
Theres saying that often is the very first attempt you do, is the best one, and the further you work on it, the further you stray from that original idea. Well, I think that has already happened with Wedge's logo. The first attempts were great,
just the logo and the slogan, which I still find very striking.
So... Yeah, in a way, that logo matters to me. A lot. And it matters to me that people like it. No matter if I have to spend another year on it. It'll be a funny bed time story for my geeky grandchildren...
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Off-topic / Re: CloudFlare
« on January 4th, 2012, 08:28 PM »
Oh. So it breaks any classic stats. Although I don't use any Eheh.
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Off-topic / Re: CloudFlare
« on January 4th, 2012, 07:54 PM »
Oh I see. They act as a proxy then?
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Off-topic / Re: CloudFlare
« on January 4th, 2012, 07:47 PM »
I'm more interested in the CDN aspect than the protection it offers ;)
Again, is this a host (i.e. you upload your files to their servers), do they host entire files or select files, etc...?
Again, is this a host (i.e. you upload your files to their servers), do they host entire files or select files, etc...?
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Features / Re: New revs
« on January 4th, 2012, 07:21 PM »
rev 1235
(3 files, 3kb)
* Made setSelected() a bit faster. And as a fine geek, I also added comments with performance comparisons. Don't mind me. (sbox.js)
! Fixed select box display area being too wide when the default selection has a details pane. (sbox.js)
! Fixed the $here bug where using it on a local Windows install would generate URLS like ..\Hello/world.png, which browsers don't like. It's a bit hackish but at least it's short and fast. And no, it doesn't seem to have anything to do with plugin directories... (Thanks John!) (Subs-Cache.php)
* All these quotes in PM headers looked odd to me. (PersonalMessage.template.php)
(3 files, 3kb)
* Made setSelected() a bit faster. And as a fine geek, I also added comments with performance comparisons. Don't mind me. (sbox.js)
! Fixed select box display area being too wide when the default selection has a details pane. (sbox.js)
! Fixed the $here bug where using it on a local Windows install would generate URLS like ..\Hello/world.png, which browsers don't like. It's a bit hackish but at least it's short and fast. And no, it doesn't seem to have anything to do with plugin directories... (Thanks John!) (Subs-Cache.php)
* All these quotes in PM headers looked odd to me. (PersonalMessage.template.php)
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Off-topic / Re: CloudFlare
« on January 4th, 2012, 07:14 PM »
Hmm... Seems interesting. They're not really a host, are they?
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Off-topic / Re: iPhone 4 on CSS3 + Javascript
« on January 4th, 2012, 07:11 PM »
Very impressive indeed.
That he did it all without images... Woot.
Ironically, the site sucks when viewed on the device in question... ;)
That he did it all without images... Woot.
Ironically, the site sucks when viewed on the device in question... ;)
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The Pub / Re: Logo Madness
« on January 4th, 2012, 06:25 PM »
wedgelight3 was done with two layers of drop shadows (a regular drop shadow, and a copy of the original layer, colored to black and gaussian-blurred to act as secondary drop shadow) because I felt even the strongest shadows weren't too obvious. It looks good on the sides, not so sure about the middle. Also added an inverted logo with light drop shadow, didn't look great so I cropped the background shadow so it only shows up around the sides... Meh, not good. I think I'll let go of that one... ;)
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The Pub / Re: Logo Madness
« on January 4th, 2012, 04:14 PM »
Definitely. I tried it on dark backgrounds and it looks mesmerizing. Even if readability isn't fantastic, it actually makes you look at it and try to read it. I'm still going to make tries in the "sober" area though.
Updated the poll to let you vote for the new logo if you'd like to change your mind...
:edit: I see that Bloc went by after being absent for 1+ month... Apparently it was too tempting to just log in and vote that he didn't like the new logos... :P
Seriously, Bloc, as always your opinion is valued (I still think you're a way better designer than I am), and any suggestions to improve the current logo are welcomed. Nobody here has anything against you, so how about you swallow your pride and accept that, from time to time, someone will tell you that they're "not that excited" by one of your designs? I've been doing Wedge logos for over a year now because none of the logos were loved by everyone, where did you see me complaining? You gave up after two tries :^^;:
Updated the poll to let you vote for the new logo if you'd like to change your mind...
:edit: I see that Bloc went by after being absent for 1+ month... Apparently it was too tempting to just log in and vote that he didn't like the new logos... :P
Seriously, Bloc, as always your opinion is valued (I still think you're a way better designer than I am), and any suggestions to improve the current logo are welcomed. Nobody here has anything against you, so how about you swallow your pride and accept that, from time to time, someone will tell you that they're "not that excited" by one of your designs? I've been doing Wedge logos for over a year now because none of the logos were loved by everyone, where did you see me complaining? You gave up after two tries :^^;:
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Features / Re: New revs
« on January 4th, 2012, 12:32 PM »
rev 1-2-3-4 (could have waited for 12:34 for even more fun but... depends on your idea of fun...)
(8 files +2-2, 20kb)
@ The NIGHTMARE commit... Just because of a couple of onclick and onfocus events in the entire Wedge codebase. I should have removed them instead... Again, many many fixes to the select box system. Keyboard navigation should now properly trigger the click event when using arrows (which a regular select box would never do -- and yes, onclick is only used ONCE in all of Wedge but I'm like that.) Focus and click events had various glitches that I believe I managed to fix entirely. Well, I thought that MANY times and then discovered that it broke every other right click in Iceland when temperature is above 67°C, so I went for a rewrite every time and it would break something else. What fun. I don't want to touch events ever again.
- Removed original's class from $display and $items, because it feels more natural to style ".custom_class .items" than ".items.custom_class". Plus it's compatible with IE6... (sbox.js)
- Removed the .sb("focus") and focusOriginal() hacks. Should work okay without these now... (PersonalMessage.template.php, script.js, sbox.js)
* Ensuring that clicks on select box display area to close it will keep focus on it. (sbox.js)
* Ensuring that selected items are always valid (i.e. they still exist now and haven't been deleted by a refresh.) (sbox.js)
* Rewrote inline event attribution for select boxes by moving event declaration around in the template file, so that they're always available for the plugin to extract from. That way, we fix (okay, I fix) this insane bug where inline events aren't available on select boxes after a refresh. (sbox.js, index.template.php, Subs-Template.php)
+ Implemented or restored (can't exactly remember) instantOpen parameter on OpenSB(), for resizing purposes mainly. (sbox.js)
! Clicking the select box to close it should now properly cancel the current selection. (sbox.js)
! Fixed broken select box widths in IE6 where optgroups were being used. (index.ie6.css)
* Replaced .is(".class") with .hasClass("class"). Gzipped/minified takes 4 extra bytes, but it should be a tad faster to execute. And semantically correct. (sbox.js)
* Moved positioning code inside OpenSB(), since it's only used there. Saves about 20 bytes and compensates for hasClass... (sbox.js)
@ Total size is 2204 bytes (+37). There's only one remaining bug as far as I can tell, which wasn't there a few hours ago. Running a refresh from a focus() event will break the tabindex flow on it, meaning if you tab out, you'll switch to the first element on the page and will have to ctrl-tab backwards to where you want to go. Tested in various browsers, and this only happens in Opera so... I'll live with it for now. Considering the nightmare it was to make this commit work across all browsers and navigation types, I consider such a small glitch to be a victory.
[b)Non-select box changes:[/b]
! theme_base_js() and theme_base_css() were always called through an echo, and yet they insisted on echoing their contents themselves, resulting in misplaced code, opening the door to more bugs. Ouch. (Subs-Cache.php)
+ Added styling for footnotes on printable pages. (Printpage.template.php)
* Renamed other/wip to other/attic, as I consider these snippets to be 'things too interesting not to be committed somewhere', rather than 'things I'm planning to include in Wedge later'. (other/attic)
+ Added a very short snippet inspired by jQuery-tie, which overloads jQuery methods with a new event. I liked the concept, but I'd rather check for all select boxes individually and fix them as needed, rather than relying on a clever hack. (other/attic/Unused-tie.js)
+ Added another very short snippet showing how to import a DOM element's event data into another element. (other/attic/Unused-events.js)
(8 files +2-2, 20kb)
@ The NIGHTMARE commit... Just because of a couple of onclick and onfocus events in the entire Wedge codebase. I should have removed them instead... Again, many many fixes to the select box system. Keyboard navigation should now properly trigger the click event when using arrows (which a regular select box would never do -- and yes, onclick is only used ONCE in all of Wedge but I'm like that.) Focus and click events had various glitches that I believe I managed to fix entirely. Well, I thought that MANY times and then discovered that it broke every other right click in Iceland when temperature is above 67°C, so I went for a rewrite every time and it would break something else. What fun. I don't want to touch events ever again.
- Removed original's class from $display and $items, because it feels more natural to style ".custom_class .items" than ".items.custom_class". Plus it's compatible with IE6... (sbox.js)
- Removed the .sb("focus") and focusOriginal() hacks. Should work okay without these now... (PersonalMessage.template.php, script.js, sbox.js)
* Ensuring that clicks on select box display area to close it will keep focus on it. (sbox.js)
* Ensuring that selected items are always valid (i.e. they still exist now and haven't been deleted by a refresh.) (sbox.js)
* Rewrote inline event attribution for select boxes by moving event declaration around in the template file, so that they're always available for the plugin to extract from. That way, we fix (okay, I fix) this insane bug where inline events aren't available on select boxes after a refresh. (sbox.js, index.template.php, Subs-Template.php)
+ Implemented or restored (can't exactly remember) instantOpen parameter on OpenSB(), for resizing purposes mainly. (sbox.js)
! Clicking the select box to close it should now properly cancel the current selection. (sbox.js)
! Fixed broken select box widths in IE6 where optgroups were being used. (index.ie6.css)
* Replaced .is(".class") with .hasClass("class"). Gzipped/minified takes 4 extra bytes, but it should be a tad faster to execute. And semantically correct. (sbox.js)
* Moved positioning code inside OpenSB(), since it's only used there. Saves about 20 bytes and compensates for hasClass... (sbox.js)
@ Total size is 2204 bytes (+37). There's only one remaining bug as far as I can tell, which wasn't there a few hours ago. Running a refresh from a focus() event will break the tabindex flow on it, meaning if you tab out, you'll switch to the first element on the page and will have to ctrl-tab backwards to where you want to go. Tested in various browsers, and this only happens in Opera so... I'll live with it for now. Considering the nightmare it was to make this commit work across all browsers and navigation types, I consider such a small glitch to be a victory.
[b)Non-select box changes:[/b]
! theme_base_js() and theme_base_css() were always called through an echo, and yet they insisted on echoing their contents themselves, resulting in misplaced code, opening the door to more bugs. Ouch. (Subs-Cache.php)
+ Added styling for footnotes on printable pages. (Printpage.template.php)
* Renamed other/wip to other/attic, as I consider these snippets to be 'things too interesting not to be committed somewhere', rather than 'things I'm planning to include in Wedge later'. (other/attic)
+ Added a very short snippet inspired by jQuery-tie, which overloads jQuery methods with a new event. I liked the concept, but I'd rather check for all select boxes individually and fix them as needed, rather than relying on a clever hack. (other/attic/Unused-tie.js)
+ Added another very short snippet showing how to import a DOM element's event data into another element. (other/attic/Unused-events.js)
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The Pub / Re: Logo Madness
« on January 4th, 2012, 11:47 AM »
It looks so incredibly good. Like the kind of thing I could wear a T-shirt of :P
However, I'm at a loss when it comes to readability... Just having one single-size icon isn't enough for me, it has to be adaptable, to all sizes and all background colors. Readability is extremely weakened when the logo is shrunk, so I tried to increase contrast by using dark colors for the font. The result can be seen in the footer but... "meh". It looks good, but not as awesome.
Also used the normal-size logo in the sidebar, so that you can switch between the different logos 'in context'. It's always better in context :)
However, I'm at a loss when it comes to readability... Just having one single-size icon isn't enough for me, it has to be adaptable, to all sizes and all background colors. Readability is extremely weakened when the logo is shrunk, so I tried to increase contrast by using dark colors for the font. The result can be seen in the footer but... "meh". It looks good, but not as awesome.
Also used the normal-size logo in the sidebar, so that you can switch between the different logos 'in context'. It's always better in context :)
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Features / Re: Selectbox
« on January 3rd, 2012, 07:21 PM »
Aaaand I think I'm going to give up on these event imports as well...
Probably just going to import .click events, I guess. Because let's be honest, it's the only kind of event we have in Wedge, AND it's not like I'm trying to make a universal select box. Modders can adapt. If I want to go universal, I'll rewrite it again anyway...
Probably just going to import .click events, I guess. Because let's be honest, it's the only kind of event we have in Wedge, AND it's not like I'm trying to make a universal select box. Modders can adapt. If I want to go universal, I'll rewrite it again anyway...
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The Pub / Re: Logo Madness
« on January 3rd, 2012, 07:19 PM »
A difficult choice... Sober or busy? Hmm...