Wedge

Except ease of use maybe..? Why would people still use hg over git then..? (Except for the silly name being a turnoff?)That it is 'worse' is not a problem to me.
I would even prefer git+bitbucket (or git+gc) at this point. I just don't like github as a website... What do you know, I'm a design and UX lover. I just don't think github is very 'practical' when it comes to being a collaboration tool AND a social network.
Do you know how to remove a notification from my own timeline? (you know, the one that says Nawe has forked blueprint-css, when I never did in the first place, and removed said fork anyway...)
If you can't, then it's not a social network, it's just a fucked up mess of bugs.
bitbucket has a more readable UI, has private repos (so it doesn't smell like "we'll shove openness down your throat, whether you like it or not!!!!!!!!!1"), and generally I tend to say "fuck" to things that people tell me to join ONLY because they're popular. Hey, I've got news for you: SMF doesn't get contributions from anyone else than the usual suspects. I'm sure that if SMF were to be hosted on GC or BB, it'd get the same usual suspects to register over there, and contribute just the same.
Now, GC and BB both support git so it's not even an issue with what you chose to go with...

There are so many reasons (both good and bad, both rooted or unrealistic) for which I don't like github, it'd just feel like a disaster to go with it in the end. Give me a new readable design for it, give me sequential commit numbers (we're talking about something that's doable), give me tools to contact people (PM or email or whatever), give me tools to control my own page (like deleting entries or whatever), give me a good tutorial to make the transition from svn less painful, *AND* then I'll consider github.
Because, REALLY, "3 million repos" is the fucking worst reason to join it. Just like "It has plenty of members" was the worst possible reason to join Facebook. How many active repos/members in both of these, eh? Certainly a lot, but I'll take Google+ and Google Code anytime as better replacements, because they know something about UX design. And I don't even LIKE Google!It supports forking, and pull requests can be done by opening an issue... Granted, it's not terribly functional, but to me it's more functional than the messed up fuck that is github's designer team.
Are they self-taught or what? Well, maybe someone should give them a course or something... They've improved a bit since last year, but they still suck hard. For instance, when will they stop using stupid animations for transitions between pages? It's certainly a lot of fun to them, but as a professional user I don't want animations, I want functionality. And these animations get in the way.I don't think it'd be suitable for very large projects, either. But even with BB at least the UI makes sense to me, and doesn't try to catch me into some social crap... I haven't tested it yet (much), but from what I see, it's not as annoying.I always hated sourceforge, the UI is better than github but it's always been so incredibly slow... Performance is the #1 factor in choosing a website.Which really, really isn't a problem with me...
I don't know why github is popular. Maybe it's the animations that won most of the userbase. Maybe they spent a lot of money trying to get everyone in the bay area to use it or something, and then it naturally spread from there. Maybe the guys who run it are absolutely charming. Or maybe it's just the better tool and I'm too old for this shit. I don't know.

What I do know, though, is that I need some pretty good reason to use github, after all the mess I've been witnessing, and "it's popular" is SO NOT a good reason for me to do that... Because popularity is the first thing you lose when you start making mistakes, and github might very well end up being replaced with a superior system. One day. And then everyone will laugh at github users for still being on that piece of crap etc etc...
Been there done that ;)

A ruby equivalent was around at the time I worked on AeMe and I actually had a to do entry to implement a Js+Php clone. Jcrop I found out about after I ended work on AeMe though. I think. Or an equivalent.
It is true that I haven't reevaluated this when including AeMe into wedge. Perhaps I should.

But GC doesn't have the one thing I like in git: committing to your own repo (either local or remote) and then automatically submitting a patch for maintainers to review.
Basically -- if SVN had that capability, I'd stay with it for a wide-scale development. I don't know if hg has it though... I suppose it does?

Even better... Went to my page, and noticed I'd forked blueprint-css. WTF?! I did visit that page yesterday because that's a repo forked by 'Nao' (another user who never did anything and whom I tried to contact to ask for an account transfer.. But fucking github doesn't want me to contact anyone...), but that's all I did. Didn't press any 'Fork' buttons.

Nawe forked joshuaclayton/blueprint-css 15 hours ago
 Forked repository is at Nawe/blueprint-css

So... I just went in, deleted the repo.
Now the glorious notification message is STILL on my page. There is no way to cancel it.
Thank you github for making me look like a git...... -_-

Btw do you have an idea whether or not I should make dimming the default?

Yep! Thus, I'm unsure whether to keep it to the future modal mode or just use it always...
In the case of a help popup, it's probably best to have the best possible visibility for anything underneath it. OTOH I made the dimming relatively subtle (20% IIRC), so it's not that big a deal.
I played a lot with css3 transitions to make it work, and then gave up and did it in jQuery with a simple fadeIn(), ah ah... Silly me. It's similar in performance, maybe a tad jerkier in Safari. Who cares.Ah, that was it...
And because alerts came up every time my tabs reloaded, if I left my browser and relaunched it later, it would have plenty of tabs that needed a button to be clicked to get control back... Meh!Yeah, it's enough, as it was my #1 argument against it, but then I registered over there to get the hang of it, and now I have even more to say about it and what I don't like... For instance, if they're so keen to make it into a social network, why the hell don't they allow PMs and/or e-mailing users through some form...? Why do they, on the contrary, show signed-off-by e-mails in plain view? (They even link them!)
Why is the interface so incredibly hard to decipher? It has too much information, and too simple a color scheme to spot the right bits -- it's basically gray on grey... Or gray on grey, depends on your taste.Your repo supports Mercurial, and custom domains... So it's not like we couldn't use Mercurial and host it publicly on dev.wedge.org or something.
Or just use SVN... :P But I'm sure that at the very least, hg would be more realistic to entice users into participating. I don't know.Alrighty.

I'm trying to find a structure that would 'work' at github... I'm sure it can be done. (An organization account for Wedge, where we'll put Wedge itself, and then I need to determine whether my own little projects will be in this account or mine.)
I probably won't post everything in a single go though -- I'm thinking of going with WeCSS or SelectBox first, and then working from there...Yeah, it's one of my main concerns about this. But it can bring benefits. Plus, I wouldn't like someone else to fork some of these components into jQuery plugins on github, even if respecting our license terms... I'd rather host the whole thing myself :PYep :) I just don't know about the name, ah ah... I think "Wess" is probably simpler and people are going to understand it better than "Wecess", because it looks more like "Less".
I ponder for a long time over many silly things!

Also, re: PM popup...
I just looked into it, and noticed that it calls ?action=pm, rather than a popup saying "you've got mail, suckah!"
So basically what it would do if using reqWin, would open an Ajax popup with a page that's built for fullscreen, while it should instead show a special version with, for instance, an extract of the latest PMs in it, etc...
Maybe we'll get rid of it in favor of the notification system (+ popup) later, but for now all I can suggest is adding a ";sa=popup" param to the URL and build a special version for it... Or simply link to "?action=help;in=you_ve_got_mail_suckah_no_dont_bother_looking_for_that_string"

Drag & drop is a strange beast really...
I noticed that it DOES have a meaning overall, though, it's just that it needs some adapting.