[2013] Arantor back on SMF Team!

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Re: Arantor back on SMF Team!
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Now that I've slightly caught up on all of this, I'm kind of disappointed that I had...
I've been away from 'forum' software for Years, so have missed on the growth of Wedge.
But I do remember its conception, the reasons behind it, the drama which gave it life.
I remember the Dream, the Determination and Drive of 2 of SMFs talented contributors.
I also remember those which shared the same dream, both public and private.
It was an Exciting time, in which my 'Personal Text' under my avy never stood any truer.

This thread is quite a sad read imo.
But atleast it's honest in some respect...

I can understand Pete's wanting to be true to himself, and I can understand Rene's hurt. Even though he's staunch to hold it in light regard.

Good mates Always have disagreements, that's one of the luxuries of being mates, because mates Know each others strengths and weaknesses and can accept both.
I can keep on with my thoughts, but they aren't really necessary, as I don't know either of you intimate enough to be too opinionated.

I hope all comes right, or is right with you both, Just take a look at Your creation!! :cool: and those which have spawned from it.

Great work guys, and to all of the other contributors. :+1:

Regards,
Sabre :thanks:
Re: Arantor back on SMF Team!
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p.s.
Forgive my language errors :whistle:
English is my third spoken :rbzz:

Nao

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Re: Arantor back on SMF Team!
« Reply #49,  »
Please don't bump a topic with a title that might not be related to the current situation...?!

Well, regarding Pete, his 'dream', his 'drive', is quite interesting actually.
I mean, for the 3 years we worked together, he said 'I'm not interested in Aeva Media, I have no use for this, I'm letting you integrate it into Wedge because you want it, but don't expect my help'.
Then he leaves the project, and... starts his own (paid for) media gallery?! And then at the same time, out of a stunning coincidence, Aeva Media gets removed from the official mod site?

What an example for future generations...

Taught me never to work with someone else again on a free project. I would have released Wedge 3 years ago, if not for his shenanigans... :-/

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Re: Arantor back on SMF Team!
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Quote from Nao on July 23rd, 2015, 10:33 PM
Then he leaves the project, and... starts his own (paid for) media gallery?! And then at the same time, out of a stunning coincidence, Aeva Media gets removed from the official mod site?
I really did wonder about that at the time! :ph34r:

Still, his gallery was very limited, licence wise, and he's been 'absent' for quite a while since getting a proper job. Sooo.... I'm thinking he'll turn up again soon, have everyone fawning over his 'expertise', then disappear... again.... *yawn* As good as he may be, and with all his self proclaimed 'afflictions', I just don't have any confidence in him. :whistle:

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Re: Arantor back on SMF Team!
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Quote from Nao on July 23rd, 2015, 10:33 PM
Please don't bump a topic with a title that might not be related to the current situation...?!
My apologies Nao.
I hadn't even checked to see if that was still the situation, I was actually looking for docs on Wedge to learn more about it, then come across this.
Yeah, I found the site which hosts his media gallery, and had a good laugh at "built by one of the most experienced SMF modders in the world." :lol: Which is true, and modest :lol: but it displays his sense of humour if that was his intent :cool:

I suspect this will be the only time I bump a topic such as this, as I witnessed only the before and after effects of the SMF 'incident', so was quite surprised to read this.

My apologies again :)

Now off to look for Any info on this(wedge) masterpiece that I can find, before I dive into the files.
Cheers :thanks:
Re: Arantor back on SMF Team!
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Quote from Drunken Clam on July 23rd, 2015, 11:29 PM
...I'm thinking he'll turn up again soon, have everyone fawning over his 'expertise', then disappear... again....
Such is life. :bah:
We All have our little dramas, and noone is without flaw.
I enjoy reading and learning from those which are more so advanced in areas than myself.
The more teachers, the better imo. Everybody has a different angle/approach to things, and you only limit Yourself to ignore them.
"Don't concentrate on the finger, or you will miss All that Heavenly Glory..." - Lee Siu Lung aka Lee Jun Fan ;)

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Re: Arantor back on SMF Team!
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I know it's not of me to say, seriously I really don't want to comment on Arantor despite seeing the event unfold. Despite being boorish he's very effective.
I really don't understand the reason why somebody should be seriously working on a project only to come out to announce that it is never to be unveiled/launched. I sure can remember Arantor's answer to one of the user here -  'The time of the release is unknown, if it will ever be'.
The disagreement between him and Nao is for them to settle but seriously they way Arantor acted on this is just painful.
I really don't like English politics and most people agree with me that England is a very bad role model especially their politics, if you know nothing about English politics, go to smf and see a clear example. The way SMF is turning to MYBB and mybb to smf is just not funny. I can count a few 'matured' staff in smf <NOW>, one of the few been one of the youngest if not the youngest another one now have his own project name Elkarte which to me is miles ahead of smf. Smf use to compete with mybb but presently, the distance between mybb and smf is not even a gap, it's a chasm.
Seeing the indecisiveness of Arantor, it is just an accident waiting to happen making him one of the deciders <your choice word here> of smf.
Sorry if my post drifts off topic.

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Re: Arantor back on SMF Team!
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I wouldn't blame England for Pete, just like I'd ask you not to blame France for me... :P
Some of the people I respect the most are British.

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Re: Arantor back on SMF Team!
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Quote from Nao on August 1st, 2015, 09:50 PM
I wouldn't blame England for Pete, just like I'd ask you not to blame France for me... :P
Some of the people I respect the most are British.
Not blaming England for him, just said the smf inherited ENGLISH Politics and it is currently destroying it.
...........................................
English -  Nicely Rude.
French -  Totally Rude. :eheh:

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Re: Arantor back on SMF Team!
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Quote from Nao on July 23rd, 2015, 10:33 PM
And then at the same time, out of a stunning coincidence, Aeva Media gets removed from the official mod site?
As far as I know Aeva was removed from sm.org for "security reasons" and due to it's license that not permitted to post the solution. I know you put a lot of work into that mod and I'm still using it, but I am asking why not release it with a different license instead to let it die slowly?

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Re: Arantor back on SMF Team!
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Why not change the license? Because I wanted to be able to remove AeMe from the sm.org without further notice, and encourage people to use Wedge instead, getting v2 for free in the process. In the end I didn't do it because Wedge never really took off.

Anyway it's all a load of bullocks from smf because no one warned me at the time they'd remove it, and no one gave me a chance to post a fixed version.

Heck, no one even told me what the security issue was about. And if I didn't want to fix it is have allowed for someone else to do it.

I'm not a bad guy and I'm not the bad guy in this story. People are still able to download v2 from my site.