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Arantor

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Re: Introduction
« Reply #165, on March 13th, 2012, 01:08 AM »
No, keep the demo site separate entirely. Reinforces the idea that it's transient at best, and means we don't have to worry about trying to harmonise anything.
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Nao

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Re: Introduction
« Reply #166, on March 13th, 2012, 01:10 AM »
Okay then.

We shall have the demo online by March 15. On the 16th anniversary of my very first website ;)

billy2

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Re: Introduction
« Reply #167, on March 14th, 2012, 09:48 AM »
 :cool:

YAY !!

<br /><br />cough, cough.

Nao

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Re: Introduction
« Reply #168, on March 14th, 2012, 09:52 AM »
Heck, maybe even today... Unless Pete wants to add some last minute elements ;)

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Re: Introduction
« Reply #169, on March 14th, 2012, 10:02 AM »
By 15th March includes today ;)

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Re: Introduction
« Reply #170, on March 14th, 2012, 10:04 AM »
Ah, yes... But you don't know me -- 'by' March 15, to me, means, "HOPEFULLY on March 15", because I also do important things at the last moment :P (Go ask my tax collector!)

billy2

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Re: Introduction
« Reply #171, on March 14th, 2012, 10:09 AM »
* billy2 chuckles

I think we all have a bit of '11th hour' history to us

Nao

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Re: Introduction
« Reply #172, on March 14th, 2012, 10:14 AM »
You have no idea how unnerving it can be, at least when it comes to Wedge...
Just because we decided we'd go for a separate demo site until we stabilize the database enough to warrant easy upgrades for Wedge.org, doesn't mean it's not easy to install on a demo site... Have to think of things like copying the badge images manually, replacing bareimg to img in the signatures, rewriting the homepage to add direct links to alternate skins for guests and things like that... Oh my...

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Re: Introduction
« Reply #173, on March 14th, 2012, 10:23 AM »
So, you don't mind probing questions, eh, Pete? On a scale of 1 to 10, where 1 is "not a chance" and 10 is "give me a few seconds to make the zip", how far along do you consider the project to be? :niark:[1]
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Nao

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Re: Introduction
« Reply #174, on March 14th, 2012, 10:33 AM »
You talkin' to me? I'm... not... Pete.
I'm the French one. Y'know, the b'stard.

Anyway, yeah of course the demo site could be online by the hour...
Actually, all of you members of the Friends group have been playing with various demo sites of Wedge for over a year so you know it's usable... ;) It's just that once we start using Wedge here, we'll have to upgrade the site regularly and I already have a hard time doing it for my local install... :P

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Re: Introduction
« Reply #175, on March 14th, 2012, 10:53 AM »
Quote from Nao on March 14th, 2012, 10:14 AM
You have no idea how unnerving it can be, at least when it comes to Wedge...
Oh I do......  :hmm:   somewhat.
I updated a live site for every SM2 RC. Losing avatars, fiddling with templates - it was fun. I learnt a bit.

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Re: Introduction
« Reply #176, on March 14th, 2012, 10:55 AM »
A single error on my side, and people are going to think we're clowns :P

billy2

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Re: Introduction
« Reply #177, on March 14th, 2012, 11:04 AM »
Quote from Nao on March 14th, 2012, 10:55 AM
A single error on my side, and people are going to think we're clowns :P
I sincerely doubt that - how about keep it private for a few hours ...... then publicly bang it out?

PantsManUK

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Re: Introduction
« Reply #178, on March 14th, 2012, 11:06 AM »
Quote from Nao on March 14th, 2012, 10:33 AM
You talkin' to me? I'm... not... Pete.
I'm the French one. Y'know, the b'stard.
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Quote from Arantor on March 12th, 2012, 11:28 PM
On the one hand, there's asking how much is done, how much we think we have to do. This I don't mind, I'll be honest about these things and it doesn't annoy me, because it's a question that has no loading to it. The reason I don't mind is because it's respectful.
:D

Easiest thing is always "Ne nourrissez pas les trolls". If you set yourselves deadlines (realistic or otherwise) and don't meet them (for whatever reason), the trolls will get shouty and that just makes things worse, because they have to be dealt with. If the demo is out today/tomorrow/next week, so be it.

Arantor

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Re: Introduction
« Reply #179, on March 14th, 2012, 12:28 PM »
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Easiest thing is always "Ne nourrissez pas les trolls". If you set yourselves deadlines (realistic or otherwise) and don't meet them (for whatever reason), the trolls will get shouty and that just makes things worse, because they have to be dealt with.
Exactly my issue with those who demand a deadline. I always think of Douglas Adams - "I love deadlines, I love the whooshing noise they make as they fly by."

I said I'd answer the question though, because it's not a loaded question that's prone to trolling.

From my perspective, it's about a 7. A lot of the big stuff is done already, but there's still a few big systems left to do, namely:
* finishing topic/thought privacy stuff
* ripping out the old ban system (since it's broken anyway at this point in time) and replacing it with a newer one that also supports the more powerful warnings I've talked about
* finish up the things I want to add in the moderation rules area (it's still missing a few things)
* some kind of way to get plugins and themes uploaded to the server, without requiring opening everything up 777 permissions
* make the profile area nicer
* finish likes

I can't think of anything else that needs doing other than these things, but they're big enough to give it only 7/10 at present.
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