Wedge

I probably should have added this to the existing discussion but I'll stick it here for now.

[1]I think the code edits should be allowed but discouraged, reason is that it can be a stepping stone for those who dont understand hooks much or aren't as versed in fiding the ones they need. For example if a package is submitted[2] that mostly modifies code but it adds new features/functions and has no security issues it ahould be approved but noted to the mod author that there are ways to get it done without so many edits... so now it's up to that author to try and improve their work to plugin/add-on quality[3].

1.	I'm no coder/programmer by any means
2.	assuming there will be a review process of sorts
3.	at least that's my simplistic take on it

Nice post Arantor

As mentioned elsewhere I already turned to using banned groups in SMF some time ago, 3 for the mainly public sections of the forum and a few others for the specialized sections. Each ban group denies certain permissions while 1 in particular denies all permissions (view/enter board permissions made my setup even more tightly controlled).

You make very good points:
Troubled users generally want closure before they leave a site[1], so much so that 1 of the features of my banning system is that banned users see a specific board where they can appeal the ban levied on them... I actually find that doing this causes them to get out what their issue is and my staff can double check to see if the ban was warranted or not. If a user is placed in the highest ban group all they can do is login if the want to but that's all they get. Their username and email is now hostage they can register with different ones if they choose but I find they generally are much less of an ass if they do.

I've only known of 1 IP-ban issued on my forum (pre-SMF anyway) and the consequences for us were brutal. This guy started using a proxy made our lives a living hell for almost 2 months IIRC, as pissed as we were we could only laugh about it until we just gave up.

There's and SMF mod for white-/black-listing domains but it was never extended to email addresses.

I've never really had much of a spam problem so I can't relate much from experience but your proposal still seems pretty solid overall.

1.	at least that's how it seems to me

I'm not overly concerned about these... regardless of what they are called in the end, users will get use to it, just like moving from another platform that uses different terminology.

Completely agree there Nao, I'm a very strong advocate for the dislike feature with the option to disable for those who do not want to use it.

Is this something that is/could be considered for Wegde?

I would argue that these permissions were missing in SMF while rather vital to some forums (I argue this of course because it was something I needed). There are cases where you want a user to see that a board exists but not allow them to enter said board (maybe until they reach a certain post count or subscribe), also there are times usually when collecting sensitive information that you would want a user to view only the topics they started in a particular board while allowing the appropriate members (more than likely your staff) to be able to view all the topics.

If there is or could be any consideration for this what I would lean towards is View Own/Any/None
Own = user can only see the topics they created in that board along with the sticky topics
Any = user can view all topics in that board
None = users cannot see any topics in that board including stickies (this would take care of what the look but no read, view/enter board permission mods attempt to do)

@Arantor I know you and I spoke a bit about this a while back by PM I think where you pointed out that these kind of permissions could trip up certain mods such as portals. I would argue that if these permissions existed in the core it would be up to mod authors to respect them when coding and up at admins that use the Own/None permission to avoid mods that trip over them.

While I understand that there might not be a vast amount of admins that need such permissions the few that do are usually left in the cold. I've had to do some rather creative mod handling to achieve the desired effect in SMF. I can happily say however that SD2.0 has helped me mitigate much of that creativity.

Now I'm not saying this must be or should be included in Wedge, I'm only curious as to whether it has come up for discussion and what was the outcome if any. If it hasn't been discussed, does it seem like something worth considering?

Pah... even the name needs to be changed IMO to something more obvious such as 'MY Preferences' or 'My Options'. To date some of my users are surprised to know the options there were looking for were in there, they saw look and layout and figured it wasn't something they needed to mess with. Can't offer much in terms of suggestions tho.

There is new content, the new post that got merged is new... so it's like making a post and editing it, it gets flagged as unread.

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