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Re: Excuse me while I vomit.......
« Reply #1, on June 12th, 2011, 05:54 PM »
I think folks would have been more appreciative had this release really been worth something. The bug fixes are not that huge, no new features, so really, the big difference is that the team won't be issuing updates as big upgrades any more, which they could have done anyway...
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Re: Excuse me while I vomit.......
« Reply #3, on June 12th, 2011, 06:30 PM »
Quote from ~DS~ on June 12th, 2011, 06:04 PM
Well done that man!  :eheh:

On another note, where did this 'Gold' thing come from?? Is it officially going to be called SMF 2.0 Gold?? (If so, that's a fail right there!)
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Quote from Arantor on June 12th, 2011, 05:54 PM
I think folks would have been more appreciative had this release really been worth something. The bug fixes are not that huge, no new features, so really, the big difference is that the team won't be issuing updates as big upgrades any more, which they could have done anyway...
Exactly, the way people are talking you'd think there was something new, almost as if they think all the problems with their forums are going to be solved with this release, which of course they are not!

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Re: Excuse me while I vomit.......
« Reply #4, on June 12th, 2011, 06:30 PM »
No, it's just 2.0.

Gold is a technical term originating from the earlier days of media where you create the single master copy and for CDs at least (and quite possibly vinyl), the master was on a gold disc to protect it from wear versus the duplicates made. Once something 'goes gold', it means the master copy has been produced from which all distributed copies are made.
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Exactly, the way people are talking you'd think there was something new, almost as if they think all the problems with their forums are going to be solved with this release, which of course they are not!
Once the sycophants die down, you'll see people start realising that.

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Re: Excuse me while I vomit.......
« Reply #5, on June 12th, 2011, 06:41 PM »
Quote from Arantor on June 12th, 2011, 06:30 PM
No, it's just 2.0.

Gold is a technical term originating from the earlier days of media where you create the single master copy and for CDs at least (and quite possibly vinyl), the master was on a gold disc to protect it from wear versus the duplicates made. Once something 'goes gold', it means the master copy has been produced from which all distributed copies are made.
That's what I thought, but I think the Lemmings are going to expect the word 'Gold' in the footer!  ::)
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Once the sycophants die down, you'll see people start realising that.
It's almost worth NOT deleting my account over there just to see what happens!!  :eheh:

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Re: Excuse me while I vomit.......
« Reply #6, on June 12th, 2011, 06:44 PM »
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That's what I thought, but I think the Lemmings are going to expect the word 'Gold' in the footer!
Nah, I get the firm impression there's enough people intermixing "2.0 gold" and "2.0 final" to get the point across.
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It's almost worth NOT deleting my account over there just to see what happens!!
Don't need an account to watch ;)

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Re: Excuse me while I vomit.......
« Reply #11, on June 12th, 2011, 09:04 PM »
I don't see any point deleting my account there. Even if I don't use it too often, that will give me the chance to express my opinion if I want to.

For example, I moved from Mambo to Joomla in 2006 and stopped using Joomla too a couple of years later (when they had problems with the bridge between Joomla and SMF) but I still have my accounts there.

I don't use them too much now-a-days, but if I ever want to say something there I can do it.

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« Reply #12, on June 12th, 2011, 09:22 PM »
For me it's a way to break with the past. I won't be needing the account, I have nothing further to say, and even if I did, no-one appears to be listening to what I'm actually saying anyway. For instance the last couple of comments from Brad and Flamer regarding my less than wonderful view about contributions... it's really simple, in a volunteer environment, you volunteer for things to do. They're not assignments, they're things you've indicated you're going to do. If you say you're going to then don't, you shouldn't have taken it in the first place.

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Re: Excuse me while I vomit.......
« Reply #13, on June 13th, 2011, 12:11 AM »
The way you were involved with SMF and the way they treated you is completely different to the way I have been involved or have been treated.

I suppose if I had ever been so committed myself to work for the community and they had done to me half of the things they did to you I would be VERY VERY angry, but they couldn't really tell me anything wrong as I have never been a part of the team there (apart from the translation team).
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in a volunteer environment, you volunteer for things to do. They're not assignments, they're things you've indicated you're going to do. If you say you're going to then don't, you shouldn't have taken it in the first place.
Completely agree. And that's another reason for me to keep my account there.

After I wrote the anti-spam mods I feel a kind of obligation with the people using them. Most of them (99% at least) are normal users with no relation at all with the SMF directive. It's not their fault if I don't agree with the directive. They are just people with spammers in their forums who trusted me to help them fight the spammers.

I will love to tell all of them "You want a forum free of spammers: Forget SMF and upgrade to Wedge" but I cannot do that yet. Maybe after Wedge is ready my account in SMF will be no use for me any longer, but in the mean time I need it to sort bugs in those mods and to answer the people with problems in the support topics.

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Re: Excuse me while I vomit.......
« Reply #14, on June 13th, 2011, 12:17 AM »
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It implies the idea that Wedge is not a competitor of SMF, but a superior version of the same codebase.
It started out that way but it's become clear over time that it's going to be so much more than simply a better version of the code. There's whole new ideas being introduced, not so subtle changes of mindset.

I don't disagree with the other points you've made - and until 2.0 final came out, I still felt a little obligation to those people who were totally innocent bystanders.
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