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Bunstonious · « on March 8th, 2015, 10:23 AM »

So who here uses Linux at all? and if so, what distribution?

Posted from Arch Linux

Pandos · « Reply #1, on March 8th, 2015, 12:24 PM »

Debian :D

CerealGuy · « Reply #2, on March 8th, 2015, 12:40 PM »

I'm using Arch too, i really like that pacman thing. Before i used debian/ubuntu.

Bunstonious · « Reply #3, on March 8th, 2015, 01:01 PM »

Quote from Pandos on March 8th, 2015, 12:24 PM

Debian :D

Nice... I have a MacBook Pro and a Windows 8.1 gaming rig also, but it's good to come back to Linux some times :)

Quote from CerealGuy on March 8th, 2015, 12:40 PM

I'm using Arch too, i really like that pacman thing. Before i used debian/ubuntu.

Yeah Pacman is aaiight, I also like APT, well most of the Distro's I have used have been Debian based so used APT. Arch is nice and "bare bones", and makes me feel all geeky.

CerealGuy · « Reply #4, on March 8th, 2015, 01:15 PM »

Quote from Bunstonious on March 8th, 2015, 01:01 PM

Yeah Pacman is aaiight, I also like APT, well most of the Distro's I have used have been Debian based so used APT. Arch is nice and "bare bones", and makes me feel all geeky.

Definetly geeky but worth it :D I think i needed 4 hours to install, but learned a lot. On a fresh installed Debian i wasn't able to install cinnamon, because of many dependency conflicts, so I switched to arch and I'm very happy with it :D

Jurien · « Reply #5, on March 8th, 2015, 01:56 PM »

Linux Mint 17.1 Cinnamon
Raspbian an unofficial port of Debian wheezy armhf installed on an Raspberry Pi Model B+ (512MB)
OSMC (Open Source Media Center) with a Raspbian based filesystem (ARMv7 kernel) installed on an Raspberry Pi Model 2B (1Gb)
CrunchBang Linux an Debian-based distribution

Have a clear preference for Linux Mint and Debian.

forumsearch0r · « Reply #6, on March 8th, 2015, 03:38 PM »

I left Linux in 2012 - here's my story - and recommend everyone to follow my example. systemd is the last thing you'd ever want to have on your desktops, trust me.
There is close to no reason to still use Linux for anything, except "using Steam without having to pay for a Windows license" (if you haven't had one yet). For all other purposes, there's BSD.

Posted from my Windows desktop while connected to my FreeBSD server, having my OpenBSD desktop in sight. ::)

Jurien · « Reply #7, on March 8th, 2015, 05:33 PM »

Your aversion to Linux in general does not interest me at all.

forumsearch0r · « Reply #8, on March 8th, 2015, 05:45 PM »

Stop your off-topic spam. This is about Linux, not about whether you like or dislike those who stopped using it.

CerealGuy · « Reply #9, on March 8th, 2015, 07:38 PM »

I never understand the hate against systemd. Works very well for me, and if you dont want to use it, dont use it. Pick another distro or build it on your own. If some software depends on systemd, dont use it. If there are enough people who think like you, there will be alternatives.

forumsearch0r · « Reply #10, on March 8th, 2015, 08:05 PM »

Quote from CerealGuy on March 8th, 2015, 07:38 PM

Pick another distro or build it on your own.

So, basically, end users who don't want to dig into tech will have to defeat and accept the unwelcome "feature". Non-systemd distributions with a certain appeal to non-programmers are rare at best.

Hey Arnold! · « Reply #11, on March 9th, 2015, 01:13 AM »

openSUSE Tumbleweed.

Bunstonious · « Reply #12, on March 9th, 2015, 01:34 AM »

Quote from Freñiçh on March 8th, 2015, 01:56 PM

Have a clear preference for Linux Mint and Debian.

Yeah I sort of do still (and I used to like LM, it just feels too "windowsy" for me. Admittedly I installed Cinnamon and it's basically the same, but I like the difficulty of Arch, keeps me on my toes).

Quote from forumsearch0r on March 8th, 2015, 03:38 PM

I left Linux in 2012 - here's my story - and recommend everyone to follow my example. systemd is the last thing you'd ever want to have on your desktops, trust me.
There is close to no reason to still use Linux for anything, except "using Steam without having to pay for a Windows license" (if you haven't had one yet). For all other purposes, there's BSD.

Posted from my Windows desktop while connected to my FreeBSD server, having my OpenBSD desktop in sight. ::)

I read the topic, still am unsure as to why you hate linux (did you lose files?) or SystemD, I actually like it.

Quote from forumsearch0r on March 8th, 2015, 08:05 PM

Quote from CerealGuy on March 8th, 2015, 07:38 PM
Pick another distro or build it on your own.
So, basically, end users who don't want to dig into tech will have to defeat and accept the unwelcome "feature". Non-systemd distributions with a certain appeal to non-programmers are rare at best.

The average end user doesn't normally care about SystemD, or hate it.

Quote from Hey Arnold! on March 9th, 2015, 01:13 AM

openSUSE Tumbleweed.

I tried OpenSUSE, I just can't get into it myself.

forumsearch0r · « Reply #13, on March 9th, 2015, 01:53 AM »

Quote from Bunstonious on March 9th, 2015, 01:34 AM

I read the topic, still am unsure as to why you hate linux (did you lose files?) or SystemD, I actually like it.

I don't hate Linux, it's just that it doesn't anything better than other available operating systems (or kernels) anymore. (Yes, I lost files - Linux just tends to have close to no QA, leading to banana software, maturing with the customer.) Systemd is a different beast, basically kidnapping most system core functionality and replacing it with abstraction layers which just make things worse.

Quote from Bunstonious on March 9th, 2015, 01:34 AM

The average end user doesn't normally care about SystemD, or hate it.

One day, end users will have forgot that Linux admins could parse their system logs without third-party applications, only using cat and grep from the POSIX kit. Sweet old times. Admittedly, I never used systemd as I jumped from the sinking Linux boat before it was integrated, but the existing virtual machines make me feel sick yet.

openSUSE, that said, is a nice beginner Linux, much better than Ubuntu for what it does - if you like it.

Bunstonious · « Reply #14, on March 9th, 2015, 02:07 AM »

Quote from forumsearch0r on March 9th, 2015, 01:53 AM

I don't hate Linux, it's just that it doesn't anything better than other available operating systems (or kernels) anymore. (Yes, I lost files - Linux just tends to have close to no QA, leading to banana software, maturing with the customer.) Systemd is a different beast, basically kidnapping most system core functionality and replacing it with abstraction layers which just make things worse.

That can be said about anything, however why not try and help the alternative movement rather than complain about it?

Quote from forumsearch0r on March 9th, 2015, 01:53 AM

One day, end users will have forgot that Linux admins could parse their system logs without third-party applications,

Why is this an issue as such?

Quote from forumsearch0r on March 9th, 2015, 01:53 AM

Admittedly, I never used systemd as I jumped from the sinking Linux boat before it was integrated, but the existing virtual machines make me feel sick yet.

So you don't like something you haven't used? Seems Legit...

Quote from forumsearch0r on March 9th, 2015, 01:53 AM

openSUSE, that said, is a nice beginner Linux, much better than Ubuntu for what it does - if you like it.

I'm not a beginner.

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