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Re: Doctor Who
« Reply #480, on September 17th, 2012, 12:38 AM »
Have you noticed ...
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... every episode this series (including Pond Life) has had flickering lights?
... the opening sequences getting darker every week? They even changed the font colour this week.

Obviously connected to the fifth episode.
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Re: Doctor Who
« Reply #481, on September 18th, 2012, 04:28 PM »
Nope, ain't noticed anything...

I barely even noticed that the credits had changed in series 7 though :lol:

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Re: Doctor Who
« Reply #482, on September 22nd, 2012, 09:18 PM »
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Another manic Doctor. But this has some context that previous episodes did not - he's manic because he can't sit still and that's why he gallivants around the universe.

The whole 'one heart' thing was a bit laborious, especially given that he has survived on a single heart in the past, albeit not running around trying to save the universe at the same time.

The ending, tying into the title 'the power of three' was cute but seems a little too handwaving, the whole tie-in with Lethbridge-Stewart is cute, though.

I'm curious about the way the next episode is going. River's back, the Angels are back, and they're in Manhattan. I wish it didn't have to be Manhattan. I personally think it would have been awesome if they'd set it early in the history of LA, the City of Angels! But we shall see.

Oh, and yes, the intro is again darker this week. The TARDIS is almost black, which ties into the cubes, but mostly because it's foreshadowing.
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Re: Doctor Who
« Reply #483, on September 23rd, 2012, 11:18 AM »
And, three out of four!
Congrats to Chibnall for writing his best episode of the show so far! I totally forgive him for my disappointment in Dinosaurs :)
This is exactly the kind of storyline I enjoy in Who: an episode-length mystery, humour, not too many silly monsters, not too much action, just time to think and laugh...
The only lesser part of the episode, is the resolution I'd say. The part where the Doctor fixes it.

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It's just too quick... "Oh, I'll just do this and that to their computer and it'll reverse everything."
Even then -- didn't the Shakri say they were sending a second wave...? What about it?
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Oh, I forgot... Yesterday I finally watched The Second Coming (2003), a TV movie written by Russel T. Davies and starring Chris Eccleston, before they made Who together. It was very slow but engaging, and overall a pretty solid story. I'd recommend it to anyone interested in seeing RTD stuff that may have inspired his stints on Who (Eccleston's enthusiasm) and Torchwood (the grittiness of it all).

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Re: Doctor Who
« Reply #484, on September 23rd, 2012, 04:32 PM »
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The only lesser part of the episode, is the resolution I'd say. The part where the Doctor fixes it.
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Yes, that was a bit quick, but nothing unusual for Chibnall's episodes. Lots of handwaving of details. As for the second wave, he blew the ship up which should have prevented that.

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Re: Doctor Who
« Reply #485, on September 24th, 2012, 12:19 AM »
Hmm, but the 'hologram' is still a potential threat... The Doctor didn't seem to convince him otherwise ;)

Ah, time for bed...

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Re: Doctor Who
« Reply #486, on September 26th, 2012, 07:59 PM »
well, I have to say... I disliked the past weekend's episode. :(

oh, and about the hologram.... the ship with that hologram blew up. No mention of what happened to the other 6 ships though.

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Re: Doctor Who
« Reply #487, on September 29th, 2012, 08:27 PM »Last edited on September 29th, 2012, 08:57 PM
A first? Live discussion of the episode being shown right now...

Interesting start. Nice location work, must have cost us license fee payers a good few quid...

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This is a "just in case" spoiler - 19:48; I do wish they would stop telegraphing the denouements so bloody obviously...

19:57; OK, weak... Very disappointed...

In answer to the below - hence no (real) spoilers ;)
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Re: Doctor Who
« Reply #488, on September 29th, 2012, 08:36 PM »
* Arantor is not at home and can't watch it until tonight :^^;:

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Re: Doctor Who
« Reply #489, on September 30th, 2012, 12:32 AM »
So... Cliffhanger or not? Bearable or not?

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Re: Doctor Who
« Reply #490, on September 30th, 2012, 12:36 AM »
For me, not that much of a cliffhanger, they broadcast it coming really early on in the episode (which I find a *huge* turn off... annoys me no end), and it's been in the "news" for a while that it was going to happen. Entirely bearable for me, will wait for the Xmas episode now and no doubt be unimpressed by it.

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Re: Doctor Who
« Reply #491, on September 30th, 2012, 12:40 AM »
Oh, well, but I'm not British am I..? So I never hear about the 'news'.

Apparently I'm spoiled, then. I didn't know it was 'early on the episode'... :-/

Will watch tomorrow morning anyway.

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Re: Doctor Who
« Reply #492, on September 30th, 2012, 04:32 AM »
No, it's not.

Early in the episode is a huge spoiler of what is going to come.

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The kicker is that a few minutes from the end you think they've done it, that they're going to survive, and BOOM. It's a hell of an episode. Even though I knew what was coming, I knew full well and I still thought that somehow they were going to get away with it.

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Re: Doctor Who
« Reply #493, on September 30th, 2012, 11:09 AM »
So... Watched this morning. Excellent. Along with this week's Saint Seiya Omega which I watched just after it.

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I just can't get why Moffat fell for such an easy ending. I mean, we already discussed it before: it was bound to happen this way... Amy and Rory being taken back in time and the Doctor finding a reason NOT to go look for them... Well, that particular reason was cheesy as hell. I'd even say it was extra-lame... But at least he did have a good idea in the execution -- this time it's Amy that gives up on everything she has, to go and be with Rory. That was a beautiful moment.

Now, of course, I don't know how exactly she could get away with publishing a book with such an afterword, but well, after all, I guess she really is the publisher herself... (And that's probably why we learned earlier on that she started writing articles for a magazine, eh..?)

Also... Statue of Liberty, EH? Come on... I know it's a kids show, but still...? Did you HAVE to do it? Or was it because you put into Who every silly idea you can't put into Sherlock? :P
And I've never seen such lazy statues. Plenty of times they'll have opportunities to strike (only one person watching them and frantically blinking, or in the roof scene, two people in the scene, a Statue of Liberty close to them, and they're both looking away for seconds, maybe minutes!)

Also liked River in the episode. She didn't steal the show, she was good support, had a moment to shine (the wrist issue), and some comforting words to say at the end. I know many don't like her, but I hope she sticks along, like she promised... :)

And the 'early in the episode' is at the 22mn mark. That's halfway through it... Just wanted to say ;)

All in all, it was a great half-season...

Christmas special:
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So... The girl is in a costume... Does that mean she's a different character altogether? Just like Gwen from Torchwood was a distant relative from that girl in the Dickens episode?

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Re: Doctor Who
« Reply #494, on September 30th, 2012, 03:00 PM »
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Well, that particular reason was cheesy as hell.
What choice does he have? The way it's set up, it's not 'finding a reason not to go look' but 'finding a reason so he can't'. When you have a time machine, almost anything becomes possible.

They're told that Rory is going to go back and he knows out that if he kills himself, it'll create a paradox. So he kills himself and explosively deals with the situation. But when they thought they've dealt with it, an Angel has escaped... the TARDIS really does not like being near paradoxes (c.f. season 3 ending) and somewhat unsurprisingly can't go back there. It might seem lame, but short of repeating last season by making the event a fixed point in time, there's not really a lot you can do with it.
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Also... Statue of Liberty, EH? Come on... I know it's a kids show, but still...?
I thought that was a neat touch, especially given the fact that in NY, *someone*'s going to be looking at the Statue of Liberty anyway so there's never really a risk of that.
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(And that's probably why we learned earlier on that she started writing articles for a magazine, eh..?)
Remember Blink. The policeman that got thrown back in time went on to get into publishing specifically so that he could put the easter egg into the DVDs.
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I know many don't like her, but I hope she sticks along, like she promised... :)
I'm not entirely sure what there is left for her to say. The arc of her timeline is now complete - the next point in her timeline, really, is in the Library. She's now a Professor, she's now an archaeologist. There are no gaps that need to be filled in continuity between where she is now and the Library. That said, I'd love to see her around for the 50th, and if she has a vortex manipulator, maybe Jack's there too... :whistle:

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Judging by the comments that have been made on the subject and what has been leaked about the Christmas episode, they have a different but related name, so it is entirely possible that she is a relative, or there is something we don't know about yet.