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Re: Doctor Who
« Reply #60, on May 30th, 2011, 12:18 AM »
I really enjoyed this double episode.

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Reminded me a bit of the Silence in the Library spirit, mixed in with a bit of Waters of Mars and a bit of Moon (the Duncan Jones movie). The new characters were pretty likable (except for the bland boy who barely said a word the whole time), and I cared about them (both clone and human versions).

As for the ending -- I didn't catch it the first time, so I rewatched it and got it: Amy was cloned the same way as originally intended, it wasn't a clone of her with its own memories -- she was in a harness of sorts, unaware of her real position, and was controlling a puppet clone all along. Hence the 'link to the Flesh' as mentioned by the Doctor. Nice one!

Rats. Means I'll have to watch next week's episode... Even though I didn't want to (because of the season-long cliffhanger.)

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Re: Doctor Who
« Reply #61, on May 30th, 2011, 12:26 AM »
Yes, it was very cleverly done at the end there.

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Tell you what, though, I had a distinct feeling of the two parter with the Silurians from S5, of the whole 'we're at war' and 'we can make a peace' motif.

You didn't think you were going to get away that lightly, did you? :P

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So, from the prequel to E7, we revisit an acquaintance, which means when we're going is definitely the 51st Century. Guess who lives then!

I have heard an interesting rumour about E13, actually, and who will be in it. It is pure speculation at this time, at least that the site mentioning said rumour has been known to be wrong, about a great many things. ONLY READ IF YOU WANT TO BE SPOILED!!

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IMDB lists the Ten, Eleven and Five all in it at the same time. Make of that what you will - but remember that Moffat has worked with Five, in the Time Crash special when he was alongside Ten.
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Re: Doctor Who
« Reply #62, on May 30th, 2011, 03:24 AM »
Are all the Dr Who's girls as hot as Billie Piper?

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Re: Doctor Who
« Reply #63, on May 30th, 2011, 07:08 AM »
Current one is so much hotter!
Posted: May 30th, 2011, 07:08 AM

(Rory, according to Idris.)

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Re: Doctor Who
« Reply #65, on May 30th, 2011, 04:09 PM »
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Quote from Arantor on May 30th, 2011, 12:26 AM
Tell you what, though, I had a distinct feeling of the two parter with the Silurians from S5, of the whole 'we're at war' and 'we can make a peace' motif
Yeah, sort of... Plus it was a double-part in the middle of the season, just like here.
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So, from the prequel to E7, we revisit an acquaintance, which means when we're going is definitely the 51st Century. Guess who lives then!
According to Wikipedia, a lot... K9, Jack Harkness, and River Song had some adventures there (so I suppose we can assume she's from that era.)
Didn't know about the supposed WW3 occurring right in the year 5.000, lol. (Plus, you'd think people would no longer need a Judeo-Christian figure at that time and thus would reset their year counter :P)
As for River Song, Moffat said quite some time ago that she was going to be in the cliffhanger, so she's in the two-parter... No surprise here! (Even the announcement for next week mentions her.)
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IMDB lists the Ten, Eleven and Five all in it at the same time. Make of that what you will - but remember that Moffat has worked with Five, in the Time Crash special when he was alongside Ten.
Wouldn't surprise me.
Would love to see Tennant again, next to Smith! Oh yeah.

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Re: Doctor Who
« Reply #66, on May 30th, 2011, 06:15 PM »
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According to Wikipedia, a lot... K9, Jack Harkness, and River Song had some adventures there (so I suppose we can assume she's from that era.)
She is, especially given that she's explicitly cited as being in Stormcage in that era.

I doubt we'll see K9 again, because K9 Mk III or IV is in Bannerman Road in the early 21st Century.

Jack... there may be a cross-over but I doubt it. If we see Jack, it'll almost certainly be before his original adventures with Nine, because of continuity with the new Torchwood season that's coming up in terms of its own continuity.

We may see Liz 10 again, out of interest, because her and River met when stealing a Van Gogh from the Royal Collection - which happened after River escaped from Stormcage, and it's the painting depicting the TARDIS exploding.

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Re: Doctor Who
« Reply #67, on June 4th, 2011, 09:50 PM »
Wow. That was pretty amazing, wasn't it?

Tonight's Doctor Who was absolutely fantastic! I know I wasn't expecting that! Sure, I had a few theories theories and some turned out more or less correct (excluding others, lol), but I sure hadn't predicted this. Marvellous, really. :D

That, and I burst out laughing at the 'The Doctor Will Be Back In ...' screen. Superb, something you just have have to see for yourself, this time. It's an experience I wouldn't want to spoil for any of you, haha. :P
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Re: Doctor Who
« Reply #68, on June 4th, 2011, 10:29 PM »
Is it worth watching for those who hate waiting after cliffhangers and would rather wait for the next part to be out?

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Re: Doctor Who
« Reply #69, on June 4th, 2011, 10:53 PM »
No worse than last week's episode, really. Of course, I can't wait until Autumn (especially after reading the 'will return in .... ' bit!), but the episode ends on an exciting yet somewhat satisfactory note, I think.

It'd be interesting to hear what Pete thinks of it (and whether I'm still this enthusiastic after seeing it again).

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Re: Doctor Who
« Reply #70, on June 4th, 2011, 10:56 PM »
All right then. Will watch tomorrow.

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Re: Doctor Who
« Reply #71, on June 4th, 2011, 11:02 PM »
Oh, it was an awesome episode, but I had actually guessed it, there were enough clues given to call the final outcome. It's been set up for a while, ever since we saw River at the crash of the Byzantium, where hints were given.

The double double cross, that I didn't see coming, and I still speculate that the "good man going to war" is not who we've been lead to believe. But I think it settles a few questions raised earlier in this thread.

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Re: Doctor Who
« Reply #72, on June 5th, 2011, 12:32 AM »
Quote from Aaron on June 4th, 2011, 09:50 PM
Wow. That was pretty amazing, wasn't it?

Tonight's Doctor Who was absolutely fantastic! I know I wasn't expecting that! Sure, I had a few theories theories and some turned out more or less correct (excluding others, lol),
Got spoiled online but that's okay, it's about who River is. Didn't we already discuss that here? I'm disappointed the hints were so obvious.

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Re: Doctor Who
« Reply #73, on June 5th, 2011, 12:41 AM »
Yes, it's about who River is. And yes, we did touch on it here, and yes, I was disappointed too at how obvious it actually was in practice. There was actually a video from Moffat in the buildup to this episode where he even said 'By now, we know who River Song is.'

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Most of the fans I know where ruling this specific thing out due to the timing being wrong, but I think it's fairly clear how the timeline got sorted out in that respect, if that makes sense.

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Long story short, I'm now waiting to see what the second half brings - I'm not quite sure we've had the rising-so-high part yet, and really not sure of the falling-further-than-ever-before moment... I just feel like this episode didn't quite bring that scale to it.

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Re: Doctor Who
« Reply #74, on June 5th, 2011, 11:56 AM »
Quote from Arantor on June 5th, 2011, 12:41 AM
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Long story short, I'm now waiting to see what the second half brings - I'm not quite sure we've had the rising-so-high part yet, and really not sure of the falling-further-than-ever-before moment... I just feel like this episode didn't quite bring that scale to it.
Very true. Also, in retrospect ...

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The headless monks feel a bit underused, don't they? I doubt we'll be seeing them again, so for a one-off ... what's with them?
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