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Re: Doctor Who
« Reply #375, on January 17th, 2012, 05:53 PM »
It could be Moffat goofing off, but it's also possible that it's something devious like a relative, not necessarily the obvious. Certainly the amount of attention Myles is getting would indicate she's going to be part of *something*.

It also wouldn't be the first in Who history for a character to have been played by an actor then the same actor goes on to be a different, more major character... Lalla Ward (Romana II) was a character in the previous season, heck even Colin Baker (Six) had been a minor character in one of Five's stories.

This also need not be an old-school thing... Freema Agyeman (Martha Jones) was also in season 2's two part finale, where she is working at Torchwood One in London, and is killed just before the Battle of Canary Wharf begins. It was subsequently subsumed into her character's background when Martha was written that her previous part was a cousin (to explain the "similar face" aspect)
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Re: Doctor Who
« Reply #376, on January 21st, 2012, 09:42 PM »
Recapping some episodes for hints/clues and found one...What's actually in room number 11 in "The God Complex"? Doctor's worst fear?
“I will stand on my ground as an atheist until your god shows up...If my irreligious bothers you much, and if you think everything I do is heresy to your god I don't care. Heresy is for those who believe, I don't. So, it isn't heresy at all!


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Re: Doctor Who
« Reply #377, on January 21st, 2012, 10:50 PM »
It's deliberately ambiguous but I always thought it was the Doctor himself in there, much as the whole Dream Lord thing - "only one person hates me that much"

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Re: Doctor Who
« Reply #379, on January 21st, 2012, 11:27 PM »
Ah, see, it's very ambiguous.

Now for the extra thing... anyone else remember Trial of a Time Lord? In particular, who the Valeyard is?

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Re: Doctor Who
« Reply #380, on January 29th, 2012, 03:58 PM »
Saw Torchwoood 'til Children of Earth, was hoping to see the Doctor at the end of the episode when Gwen mentions him but no. Nonetheless it was okay.

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Re: Doctor Who
« Reply #381, on January 29th, 2012, 04:50 PM »
Well just for reference, the ending of DW season 3 with Utopia and the Last of the Time Lords happens just after the end of TW season 1 (you see Jack running off because he hears the TARDIS sound) and Journey's End happens sometime after the end of TW season 2 but before CoE happens because it happens in the Hub but Tosh and Owen aren't present.

Actually Gwen's mention of him is actually to explain why he doesn't turn up despite a major alien threat - because RTD feels it is inappropriate to bring the Doctor into TW though has fewer issues with going the other way. Hopefully we'll see Captain Jack and Gwen (and maybe Ianto? The Doctor can work miracles after all!) in season 7 or 8 as part of the run-up to the 50th anniversary.

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Re: Doctor Who
« Reply #382, on January 29th, 2012, 05:10 PM »
Yes I knew about Jack's appreance in DW. The Doctor not showing up in this major threat is because I've been told he's somewhere in WoM in his timeline.

Despite season 7-8, how can it be tied to TW spin-off now in this 50 anniversary? Wishful thinking but never say never, never know what RTD have up his sleeve :p

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Re: Doctor Who
« Reply #383, on January 29th, 2012, 06:06 PM »
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The Doctor not showing up in this major threat is because I've been told he's somewhere in WoM in his timeline.
Well, the official reason is that it wasn't appropriate for the Doctor to visit TW generally, because Torchwood is not within the typical DW viewer demographic (RTD doesn't want kids wanting to watch Torchwood, basically)

Even if he is in the middle of Waters of Mars in his timeline, WoM is essentially something that is a ~1 day event from his perspective, ~2 days at most, while CoE is a 5 day event, and he never shows up at any point during those 5 days.

More interestingly, he doesn't visit Earth during the events of Miracle Day, which is a shade longer than 5 days - but I suppose in his timeline that would have been during the years days leading up to Lake Silencio and saving the Earth wasn't hit prime concern.

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Re: Doctor Who
« Reply #384, on January 29th, 2012, 06:08 PM »
Quote from Arantor on January 29th, 2012, 04:50 PM
(and maybe Ianto? The Doctor can work miracles after all!)
Well, I'd rather see the complete team circa series 2... :P
But the Doctor rarely, if ever, jumps back to an earlier point in time to 'revisit' events from a previous season.

Hmm, makes me think of something. Time for a little game.
I was watching something these last couple of days, and heard that funny quote -- "For someone who can travel across time and space, The Doctor sure is fascinated with modern London."

Only, I have no idea WHERE it was. Possibly in A Bit of Fry & Laurie, or Kingdom (yeah, now that I'm done with QI, I'm playing catch up with Stephen Fry's other things!), or maybe me rewatching the Night & The Doctor episodes 3 & 4...
Anyone? I can only find one occurrence on Google and it credits it to Amy, but I only re-watched the River Song episodes and Amy isn't in them... And it was definitely this weekend.

BTW, Kingdom has a bartender called Ted. He's played by Tom Fisher, from "The Nine Lives of Tomas Katz". I was in awe. One of my favourite movies! The show even has a couple of guests from QI, such as the Danish woman whose name escapes me, in the crop circle episode. (The same episode has a Tom Baker lookalike in a full 4th Doctor outfit.)

(Okay I'm done.)

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Re: Doctor Who
« Reply #385, on January 29th, 2012, 07:20 PM »
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Well, I'd rather see the complete team circa series 2...
Oh god no. Tosh had little charisma or personality except on three occasions (total): where she had the mind-reading necklace, where she was 'dating' the WWI guy and occasional glimpses of such after Owen died and was resurrected. Other than that, she didn't really bring that much to it, IMO.

As for Owen, I appreciate his sarcasm as much as anyone but other than a few moments where he demonstrates some personality, it's mostly irrelevant. The moments I'm thinking about are the episode with the folks from 1953 in the plane, the episode where he goes into a cage with a Weevil[1]... Christ, he got more charisma when he was resurrected. He's a good actor but the scripts didn't give him that much to work with IMO.

I've heard the quote too, fairly sure it wasn't Amy, but now I'm going to have to start rewatching stuff to find it!
 1. Which, considering the episode was written by Noel Clarke, aka MICKEY SMITH! was rather a good episode.

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Re: Doctor Who
« Reply #386, on January 29th, 2012, 09:03 PM »
- I just love Owen. After his resurrection yeah. He did it for me. It clicked. It felt like home somehow. Plus he's got the same kind of voice as the Comus lead singer. Priceless.

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Re: Doctor Who
« Reply #387, on January 29th, 2012, 09:20 PM »
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Considering the single solitary result on Google mentioned BBT it seems likely. But I've only ever seen one episode of BBT, found it immensely irritating and yet I don't recognise the quote from there - but I swear I've heard it elsewhere beforehand. However, according to Wikipedia, there is a character named Amy in it, so could that be the source of the quote?

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Re: Doctor Who
« Reply #388, on January 29th, 2012, 10:23 PM »
Silly me. I forgot Amy is Sheldon's girlfriend. Yes she was the one who said. I automatically assumed it was Amy from Who!

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Re: Doctor Who
« Reply #389, on January 29th, 2012, 10:24 PM »
I wondered the same thing when I read it here today. It confused me at first, because I don't watch The Big Bang Theory. Then it occurred to me ... I had seen the clip over at Blogtor Who. :P
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