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Re: Doctor Who
« Reply #135, on August 29th, 2011, 06:05 PM »
I'll catch up with DW Confidential later...
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Re: Doctor Who
« Reply #136, on August 29th, 2011, 11:34 PM »
Meh, I must've misheard something when I first saw Confidential, because upon review I haven't heard the bit I heard about
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the Doctor telling River what she and he will become, in other words that they become lovers -- hence the "oh, I think she knows".

Might have missed it the second time, though. :P
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Re: Doctor Who
« Reply #137, on September 5th, 2011, 12:44 PM »
I've caught up on TW... Last 3 episodes were pretty watchable all in all. But it sounds more and more like the show was written as it went, instead of planned ahead. Several characters seem to have been introduced for nothing...

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An entire episode was spent on saving Gwen's father, when she did nothing for him in episode 9... Several episodes were spent on Bill Pullman's character who, one episode shy from the end, is still exactly the same uninteresting character who has basically absolutely nothing to do except give a name (Pullman fans will have to go back to Zero Effect, I guess.)
Similarly, it seemed like the sole purpose of Angelo (nice story ep) was to introduce the characters to Nana "I'm going to die in a few minutes, don't bother with me" Visitor, who herself doesn't even seem to know whether she's a good or a bad girl... And who, just like her grandfather, had only one purpose, wait for it: giving names. From then on, it became even more ridiculous with the hacking and stuff.

Oh, my... Thankfully, the actors do their best to at least not make it boring. Plus, my girlfriend started watching at episode 8. I filled her in and told her, "good for you, you didn't have to go through so many episodes of bullshit :P"

As for this week's Doctor Who... Boring. The big twist was nice (well, the scene with the photo album -- it almost seemed like a reversal of roles for Daniel Mays who did a similar trick in Ashes to Ashes...), but the rest just wasn't very interesting. Frankly, if I hadn't been interested in Mays, I would have written off the episode as just on par with Victory of the Daleks or The Idiot's Lantern, i.e. Mark Gattis's other excruciating contributions to Doctor Who. As it stands now, it's... well, probably his best, because it had a bit of heart. But that's all.

Now for the final thought. After watching the two shows in a row...

The female sidekick in TW is married. To a geeky guy who doesn't look great but whom viewers love enough that he got a bigger part in the show.

The female sidekick in DW is married. To a geeky guy who doesn't look great but whom viewers love enough that he got a bigger part in the show.

The TW guy is called Rhys Williams.
The DW guy is called Rory Williams.

Is it me or... IS THERE A PATTERN?? :lol:

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Re: Doctor Who
« Reply #138, on September 5th, 2011, 01:20 PM »
Well, I rewatched it last week from the beginning (and ep 9 isn't out here yet), and it got better over time, but I'm waiting to see what ep 9 brings.
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As for this week's Doctor Who... Boring.
We didn't find it boring, and Liz very definitely didn't... was a bit too scared to be bored.
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The TW guy is called Rhys Williams.
The DW guy is called Rory Williams.

Is it me or... IS THERE A PATTERN??
At least one person I know calls them cousins even when they aren't. 'Williams' is just a pretty common surname, and I bet Moffat just forgot that Rhys' surname was that - DW series 5 didn't begin filming until months after TW series 3 had been shown.
Re: Doctor Who
« Reply #139, on September 5th, 2011, 05:55 PM »
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but generally its so targeted towards kids that I loose interest
Series 6 is many things, but not targeted towards kids.
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I don't buy the River stuff, not really, for one she feels like SHE is the oldest in the series and not Matt..
Alex Kingston is older than Matt Smith, but the writing is a bit odd, certainly.
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If you watch the end in this episode, notice how they discuss where to go next..was there ever such dull small-talk between Tennant and companions? I don't think so.
Oh yes there was. Especially DT and Martha.


Remember also that it can't be too OTT in terms of adult stuff given its timing, makes it quite hard to be 'for adults' as well as 'for kids', and I think seasons 5 and 6 have been quite well balanced in that respect (season 5 especially, IMO)

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Re: Doctor Who
« Reply #140, on September 10th, 2011, 06:19 PM »
For the record, I think the last episode of Torchwood: Miracle Day just reeks. What a complete waste of time.

Here's hoping tonight's Doctor Who will be more amusing...

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Re: Doctor Who
« Reply #141, on September 10th, 2011, 06:32 PM »
Haven't seen TW EP 9 yet, but I'm hearing that it's an RTD cliffhanger which means that it's probably going to suck because he's not really a story person, he's a characters person.

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Re: Doctor Who
« Reply #142, on September 10th, 2011, 06:40 PM »
Ah, yes, we can blame him for this particular ending.

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Re: Doctor Who
« Reply #143, on September 10th, 2011, 07:00 PM »
Does everyone die but the two usual? :lol:


Now THAT would be typical RTD...

I'll watch that later.

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Re: Doctor Who
« Reply #144, on September 10th, 2011, 09:11 PM »
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The sad thing about the post above is that it's so true ... and Nao doesn't even know this yet.

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Re: Doctor Who
« Reply #145, on September 10th, 2011, 10:39 PM »
Anyway. DW S6E10.

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The Girl Who Waited.

This one's a curiously bittersweet episode playing on the notion we were left with right back at the start of S5, of little Amelia Pond waiting for her magic Doctor to save her... Only this time, when he does finally arrive, she doesn't want saving, because she grew up.

There's been hints that S7 won't have Amy and Rory as regular characters and this is the point where I think it turns that corner. A particular line of Rory's, echoes something Davros said about the Doctor and what he does with the Chldren of Time.

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Re: Doctor Who
« Reply #146, on September 11th, 2011, 11:40 AM »
Just watched TW. I found it to be fun. My girlfriend wants to thank you Aaron for misleading us :P
And that cliffhanger is just a funny ending. The story is complete per se!
Re: Doctor Who
« Reply #147, on September 11th, 2011, 02:42 PM »
Fantastic Who. A new classic.
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Reminds me of the Vincent episode in terms of unexpected quality.

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Re: Doctor Who
« Reply #149, on September 17th, 2011, 09:19 PM »
I really must catch up with TW but meantime, DW episode 11.

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Epic episode. Proper instilling of fear, with a nice conclusion, but it seems a shade convenient.

Second use of the bells of ST Clements nursery rhyme in as many episodes. Amy and Rory going home, and into their own house... The same house as in episode one, perhaps?

Plus the statement made by the beast at the end, about the gift of death, to one who has lived so long, soaked in the blood of innocents. Callback to the Pandorica, purchance?