Post count fever

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Re: Post count fever
« Reply #195, on October 26th, 2011, 03:51 PM »
I still think you'll have it... Just look at the plugin discussions. I'm in pretty much none of them, because it's way out of my league. Or I just simply fear having to deal with it later... Perhaps I started Wedge because I didn't want to have to bother with making mods any longer... :lol:

Oh well...

I'm still stuck with AeMe too, BTW. I've reached a point where I'm starting to think it should stay the way it is, and I'll (or you'll) merge the attachment and avatar systems into AeMe once we reach 1.1 or something, or possibly earlier but not before the demo... It's not that I don't want to do it, but either way we'll have to build a converter for attachments and avatars, so we might as well build it into Wedge itself rather than rely on Thorsten's converter for that... I just don't know.

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Re: Post count fever
« Reply #196, on October 26th, 2011, 04:07 PM »
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I still think you'll have it... Just look at the plugin discussions.
The plugin manager is undeniably my 'baby', and it reflects in the amount of passion that I have for it, that I'm not only working on it, working on all its mechanics but also in developing plugins for it, and that as working as it is, it's still very much a work in progress.
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I'm in pretty much none of them, because it's way out of my league. Or I just simply fear having to deal with it later...
Well, plugins had to be dealt with sometime, and it was at the stage where I couldn't let it pass any longer without doing something to it, so I started really figuring out the mechanics of it - and after that, it was simply the period of time it took to solve the underlying issues around the plugin manager's behaviour. I'm still wrangling with some of it but the core system works rather well.

I did get the feeling that you weren't that interested in writing plugins - and that's cool. I like writing plugins because it means that stuff I wouldn't put in the core, I can put in plugins, and it means that functionality can be developed in relative isolation, rather than having things that interact with each other like most core stuff.
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Perhaps I started Wedge because I didn't want to have to bother with making mods any longer...
Heheh, well, part of the appeal for me was the chance to really make something of the package manager in some fashion. It isn't a bad tool, but it needed some serious love and attention.
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I'm still stuck with AeMe too, BTW. I've reached a point where I'm starting to think it should stay the way it is, and I'll (or you'll) merge the attachment and avatar systems into AeMe once we reach 1.1 or something, or possibly earlier but not before the demo...
Hmm, I understand the reticence, not least because there is simply so much that interacts with it, it has so many consequences, and most of them have to not only be gotten right, but to avoid making a hash of it, most of them have to be figured out in advance.

I don't have a problem with releasing the demo as it is publicly (but not releasing a downloadable demo yet, there's still stuff too broken, like board access not having a working UI) and doing that after the demo but the longer it's left (and in particular after 1.0), the harder it's going to be to do.

Much as I stated with the dropping-bbc-in-favour-of-WYSIWYG, it's something that if we're going to do, we pretty much have to do it now rather than later.

The converter can be fixed up after the event. The core support, though, can't - because if it's left past 1.0, it's not only importing but upgrading that's going to be problematic - and that's a scenario I don't want to go down if at all possible, just because of the nightmare scenario it causes generally. Far better that we put the core in the core and have the converter deal with - measure twice, cut once, rather than measure three or four times and cut twice.
Re: Post count fever
« Reply #197, on November 1st, 2011, 09:37 AM »
In other news, to hit 7500 before Nao, I need to make another 93 posts, as opposed to Nao's 20... only time will tell.
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Re: Post count fever
« Reply #198, on November 1st, 2011, 10:10 AM »
Well I didn't want to spoil the thing but it looks like I'll be getting the trophy by a thin margin and then you'll reach 10k before I hit 8k ;)

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Re: Post count fever
« Reply #199, on November 1st, 2011, 10:24 AM »
That sounds almost like a plan ;)

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Re: Post count fever
« Reply #200, on November 1st, 2011, 10:43 AM »
I'm going to Ikea so you have a couple of hours to outdo me. Good luck! :D

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Re: Post count fever
« Reply #201, on November 1st, 2011, 10:47 AM »
Quote from Nao on November 1st, 2011, 10:43 AM
I'm going to Ikea so you have a couple of hours to outdo me. Good luck! :D
Sadly, I haven't got nearly enough material to spam almost 90 posts, even if I could probably make them in that time ;)

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Re: Post count fever
« Reply #202, on November 1st, 2011, 12:34 PM »
You disappoint me! I won't ever see you as the spam god I once saw you.

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Re: Post count fever
« Reply #203, on November 1st, 2011, 12:36 PM »
You will again - just not right now :P

I can't just suddenly turn out 100+ posts, it needs something to catalyse it. Previously that was the black hole that was the SMF support boards, where there have always been more people asking for help than provided it.

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Re: Post count fever
« Reply #204, on November 1st, 2011, 12:42 PM »
My problem is that you post so much and such long posts -- they're always interesting to read but many times I'll just consider the fact it'll take me 20 minutes to answer and then you'll answer and that another 20 minutes and that's how I kill so many good conversations with my laziness.
You're just too good with a keyboard. I don't know how you can pull it off.

And that's a very long post for iPod standards ;)

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Re: Post count fever
« Reply #205, on November 1st, 2011, 12:50 PM »
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You're just too good with a keyboard. I don't know how you can pull it off.
I've been using a computer in some form or another since I was about 3... I'm 28 now, and every one of those computers had a QWERTY keyboard :D On a more personal note, one of the earliest programs I remember was one my dad did (which sadly, I don't seem to have any more :() which taught me how to spell my name because it would ask for a letter and each time you pressed the right letter it drew more of a house.
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My problem is that you post so much and such long posts -- they're always interesting to read but many times I'll just consider the fact it'll take me 20 minutes to answer and then you'll answer and that another 20 minutes and that's how I kill so many good conversations with my laziness.
That's more a sign to me that I need to break my posts up, and possibly start creating multiple threads instead of single threads that have multiple discussions in them.

Possibly a reason to use threaded replies?

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Re: Post count fever
« Reply #206, on November 1st, 2011, 08:39 PM »
You guys are a hoot... Really!  :)

This may not be the best spot to post this, but I just had a idea about posts... So when you post your post count goes +1, the downside is that other people (and yourself) don't know what post count you were at when you posted. It might be useful to have a option to show overall post count and postcount to date of that post... Just a thought.

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Re: Post count fever
« Reply #207, on November 1st, 2011, 09:08 PM »
I'd tend to say it'd be too taxing on the server. I mean at least when taking into account the small benefit it has ;)

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Re: Post count fever
« Reply #208, on November 1st, 2011, 09:20 PM »
Makes sense. Just one of those "it'd be cool if" features... But now that you mention it that would be a lot of extra crap to keep track of..  :)

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Re: Post count fever
« Reply #209, on November 1st, 2011, 09:26 PM »
Possibly plugin material though...