Another optional core feature

texasman1979

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Another optional core feature
« on April 11th, 2011, 09:16 PM »
Custom profile fields are only needed when custom profile fields are needed. There is a lot of code that gets ran even when you dont have any custom profilr fields anywhere on the forum. I beleive that this entire concept should be made into a optional core feature. I think that the code, comments, if statements to see if there is any, shouldnt be there unless some admin wishes to have a custom profile feild. A stripped version with a package manager that is linked to dl.wedge.org, would give a seriously customizable site with absolutely nothing the admin doesnt wish to be there. Not all admins will want aeva, or even the blog system, and if they change their mind, they then go to the package manager and download, install, then configure, in just a few clicks and pauses. You could even for the sake of presentation thro in some flash animation, of an arantor stick figure working his ass off just to put a little humor in it. :)
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Re: Another optional core feature
« Reply #2, on April 11th, 2011, 10:31 PM »
Well yes, but the code and files to support it come in the default package, but a boolean value is default false. Furthermore, i was using that as an example to express the potential of the package manager, which is getting also a good bit of discussion. And also futhers all our goals for a more modular design with out gutting the software and using twists of what we already have in new and exciting ways. Looking at the package manager as more of a module manager for core parts as well as user defined parts. And im really not trying to piss anyone off, this is just an educated hypothesis.

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Re: Another optional core feature
« Reply #3, on April 11th, 2011, 10:44 PM »
All I will say is: speed, security, customisability, pick any two. You cannot have it both ways.
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Re: Another optional core feature
« Reply #5, on April 11th, 2011, 11:01 PM »
Im beginning to think, arantor, that if i suggested you and nao get together and write a fork of smf, that you would disagree in some manner. Not a single thing that i have said on this forum has gotten even the slightest hint of a positive response. Man i could say wedge is the coolest thing since sliced bread and i really do feel the response would be, wtf, that would go against everything smf stands for. Everything i say is not either an insult or something stupid. Ive read almost every public word on this forum, and im giving my best to contributing intellegent thought and discussion. Really? I didnt think i was that dense, but eveb im thinking i dont add up to a pile of rocks. Tell me how in what way having a much more intuitive and active package manager will hurt wedge. Please, im begging you, how is everything that exits my brain a total load of shit? Lol * maybe after he reads this hell actually laugh instead of scowl. * :)

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Re: Another optional core feature
« Reply #6, on April 11th, 2011, 11:21 PM »
Because all I'm seeing is hyperbole and "how we should do it", without regard for the reality of implementation.

You talk about making something like that a plugin, but without any explanation of how to go about doing so, in a way that would be feasible and practical to implement.

Ideas are absolutely wonderful, but there has to be a point whereby someone has to sit down and fucking implement it. Have you ever sat down and done so? Ever sat down and literally taken tens of thousands of code, ripped it apart and rebuilt it from scratch?

When you've done that, when you can look me in the eye and be aware of the *MONTHS* of full time work that's involved in implementing this, then you can start dictating how you think we should do this, because that's where this is going.

Since you came here, you have taken every opportunity to tell us how you think it should be done, and flat out demanded access to the code, and proceeded to demand to be treated as an equal partner, except that that isn't how it works.

I would not come to your site and tell you how I think you should run it, and I certainly would not proceed to keep telling you how you should build it, because it's your vision. You'd tell me where to get fucked if I went to your site and started lecturing you in how to implement things that will take you months to implement, especially if it might conflict with where your plans for the future are.

Now, maybe you will understand why I'm so pissed off. Hopefully tomorrow I won't feel such towering raging fury as I do right now.

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Re: Another optional core feature
« Reply #7, on April 11th, 2011, 11:29 PM »
Fuck man, smile!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I didnt say a fucking thing about shitting code and having it ready by 8 am tomorrow. You put the ass in hole, for real, but i still love ya man, cause id rather have a guy be a dick to my face, than a pussy behind my back. Smile mother fucker, or im gonna drive to england and whoop your programmer ass. Lol

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Re: Another optional core feature
« Reply #11, on April 11th, 2011, 11:37 PM »
Quote from texasman1979 on April 11th, 2011, 11:01 PM
Not a single thing that i have said on this forum has gotten even the slightest hint of a positive response.
From me it did. But apparently it doesn't count eh...
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im giving my best to contributing intellegent thought and discussion.
Please don't use words you don't even know how to spell.
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Tell me how in what way having a much more intuitive and active package manager will hurt wedge.
Hmm... How about "we've been working on Wedge for nearly 8 months, 700 commits so far, working fulltime on the thing and we still haven't managed to implement half the stuff we want"? How about "If we start implementing every other guy's incredible-idea-that'll-make-Wedge-so-much-better-than-SMF™[1], we won't release it for an extra ten years"?
 1. And believe me, everyone has their own idea... Which is, in general, related to a problem they're having with SMF -- but that not everyone may have, of course.

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Re: Another optional core feature
« Reply #12, on April 11th, 2011, 11:38 PM »
it looks like you don't get the point.
your posts look like: "that's my idea. do it." the answers you get look like "nope. it's the other way for a reason"
problem is that you just react like "I don't core. Do it like I imagined it"

just the short way without the multiple lines you all normally write.

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Re: Another optional core feature
« Reply #13, on April 11th, 2011, 11:57 PM »
That does it, im going to post naked pictures of my dog now. Yall asked for it. Lol

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Re: Another optional core feature
« Reply #14, on April 12th, 2011, 12:04 AM »
Pff. Texasman, do you have any idea how much time you've wasted here so far, and worse, how much time we've all been losing thanks to your antics?