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Recycle bin or inline moderation?

recycle
22 (50%)
inline
12 (27.3%)
Don't care
7 (15.9%)
Don't know
3 (6.8%)
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Recycling board by default
« on October 18th, 2010, 02:38 PM »Last edited on April 7th, 2011, 02:17 PM by Nao/Gilles
What do people think about having a recycle board set by default on new installs?
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Re: Recycling board by default
« Reply #1, on October 18th, 2010, 02:45 PM »
Yes please. :)

And maybe throw more recycle boards specify on topics or eh...boards?
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Re: Recycling board by default
« Reply #3, on October 18th, 2010, 04:17 PM »
What about on conversions from SMF (+others later)? If there isn't a recycle board, add one?

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Re: Recycling board by default
« Reply #6, on October 18th, 2010, 04:37 PM »
If you come from SMF to Wedge, you may or may not have a recycle board. Should it create one then?

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Re: Recycling board by default
« Reply #8, on October 18th, 2010, 04:40 PM »
Quote from Arantor on October 18th, 2010, 04:37 PM
If you come from SMF to Wedge, you may or may not have a recycle board. Should it create one then?
Add by default from the conversion when there isn't one? What if users have them disabled?

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Re: Recycling board by default
« Reply #9, on October 18th, 2010, 04:44 PM »
That's my point: it's not set up in SMF by default though I really think it should be (which is why I'm suggesting it here), but I'm on the fence. If you've come from SMF you may not want/need such, but you also may not know about it.

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Re: Recycling board by default
« Reply #10, on October 18th, 2010, 04:55 PM »
Sure why not. :)

If they dont want it enabled they would have disable it in Wedge then.

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Re: Recycling board by default
« Reply #11, on October 19th, 2010, 10:04 AM »
Quote from Arantor on October 18th, 2010, 04:44 PM
That's my point: it's not set up in SMF by default though I really think it should be (which is why I'm suggesting it here), but I'm on the fence. If you've come from SMF you may not want/need such, but you also may not know about it.
Up to you...
My problem is that I really hate how the recycle board is implemented right now.
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Re: Recycling board by default
« Reply #12, on January 14th, 2011, 11:57 AM »
This is what I did in SimpleDesk and in hindsight, I'm not sure it worked so well in practice actually. It was certainly an interesting way of solving the problem (to have the deleted items remain in the ticket in context, but be flagged as deleted) but the UI sucked, not to mention causing other issues with how the recycled messages get accessed.

It's not a *bad* solution but the UI would certainly need a makeover.

As for separating deleting individual posts vs deleting individual topics... again, we actually had that in SimpleDesk and internally it made more of a mess, at least in my head trying to get it working sensibly.

That said, floating topics are the perfect candidate for being deleted; you store the original board somewhere other than the place you normally use to access it, or otherwise set the 'parentage' to deleted in some form.

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Re: Recycling board by default
« Reply #13, on January 16th, 2011, 02:26 PM »
IMO any forum owner/admin who works without a safety net (ie Recycle Board) is asking for trouble. Anyone can click Remove by accident.

Yes please, a Recycle Board by default visible only to admin with option to set permissions for moderators to view/have access to it too.

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Re: Recycling board by default
« Reply #14, on January 16th, 2011, 04:41 PM »
If it were implemented as it is now, it would just be a regular board with the relevant permissions set. That's a tiny job, in fact :)

But I get the feeling something more complex and powerful is what's needed.