Wedge

No harm in trying...

I've been on and off SMF since early 2005...and would like to test Wedge on one live site...

I'll spend as much time needed to get the site running with Wedge smoothly...(parallel setup and switch over when everything is good)

Just one question (if it has been asked before then I'm sorry for repeating the question).

Is there any significant performance gain using Wedge versus SMF from server resource usage perspective?

@Testers> Okay, due to a bug in Wedge's membergroup handling, you probably didn't have access to any boards if you weren't already a Friend. This should be fixed... (And I thought it was enough to use the "based off Regular membergroup" option in the group creation page...)

@verm> Performance is one of the things that obsessed me over the course of these two years. Here's what you can expect:

- Overall server performance: it's not going to be improved. Wedge currently does many more operations per page than SMF does. It notably tests for the presence of many files, which I have yet to optimize. I can't decide between using the cache system with a relatively low timeout, or adding an admin setting to 'force' considering the files as okay. This will definitely have to be addressed (mostly because once you install a forum and it's running well, you rarely launch your FTP client to upload new skins.) Other than that particular point, it should be on par with SMF -- I think we've optimized a lot of slow parts, but because SMF is already fast to begin with, we mostly used the extra power to add new features.

- Overall perceived performance: that's where it's becoming fun... Well, the difference isn't going to be TOO obvious either, but a first-time visitor should have much better performance, most notably with graphics being loaded instantly. If you try and run a SMF forum through Google PageRank, you'll see that your page gets something like a 70 or 80/100 score (I'm not sure exactly, it's been a long time.) Once you upgrade it to Wedge and re-run the test, it will jump to at least 95/100. Most of the bandwidth bottlenecks have been resolved. The only 'big' file left to load is jQuery itself (about 30KB), but even then -- by default it will load from the Google CDN, which your users are likely to ALREADY have in their browser cache, because it's used by so many websites out there. It's the whole point of using jQuery, really[1].Well, the converter has been ready for quite some time (maybe it's broken right now, I haven't tried it since last March when this very website was converted to run Wedge...), I'm just not planning to release it during the alpha, except to users who'd like to run their live forum with Wedge and can guarantee they won't be calling me every one minute for a support issue related to the converter or Wedge generally.But it's not on your left hand! How disappointed!

Oh, I used the opportunity to add you to the Friends group. I thought it was done already...

1.	I don't know why browser vendors aren't already shipping with embedded jQuery versions... Or even forcing the cache to retain all jQuery versions for weeks after they're loaded. Heck, maybe they're already doing it...

1) Nearly 4 years
2) Not for now (localhost is my friend)
3) 2 hours per day maybe less coz of my school.
4) Aeva / Plug-in system / WeCSS (mostly WeCSS)
5) :(

to be honest i know basics of mysql, i think this also be awesome experience and study for me but i think i can handle manuel patching via phpmyadmin.

Do you mean the betatesters? If so I cannot see any extra board(s) today.

First of all hello. Long time reader of this forum and have been keeping up to date with the work you are doing, but have not registered until now as I had nothing really to offer the conversation.

I realise as a new member this will count against me :D

While I may not be considered for testing the Alpha version (but would like to be, want to get cracking on it), I would like to put my name in the hat for testing at some point during the softwares development.

To cut a short story long, I run a new forum which was started in the early part of this year. Decent membership, 600 members, 60,000 posts in the first 8 months so we are growing pretty well. Using a very hacked version of SMF, to the point where we have to manually code all modications.

The situation we are at the moment is I have several very good volunteer devs, two of which work in software developement, but both frankly are sick of SMF and the way its badly written, and poorly implemented, and we are faced with two choices.

Plodding on with SMF as it stands in which case its a matter of me making the best of a bad lot, or moving to a new platform that is actually up to date, modern and well implemented. This will happen, its just a matter of when we decide to leave SMF and what options there are, and so testing Wedge would be ideal for us to explore options going forward.

Onto the questions

1 - How long have you been a SMF user? (Approximately...)
Using SMF since January, previously PhpBB and Yabbse. Total fed up with the badly written nature of SMF. Have been well and truly into the guts of smf over the last year.

2 - If you're planning to use Wedge on a live forum, post its URL.
Would run it on a mirror of our existing forum velorooms.com at something like wedge.velorooms , accessed by moderators, devs and selected users with coding backgrounds

3 - How much daily time you think you can devote to testing Wedge.
Personally, I work from home doing graphic design and running websites/forum so I can pretty much devote to it as much time is needed

4 - Is there a feature in Wedge that you're most interested in? Something you'll focus your testing on, etc... Or just something you're just excited to use!
The main thing we are looking for is consistency across the package. Consistent calling of Javascript rather than individual elements all doing their own thing, as well as developing layout and theming. Calendar useage, media embedding etc.

5 - If you're a hot young lady, post a picture of you, preferably on a boat (in front of a boat is also acceptable), or in an administration building's waiting line. Extra points if you're wearing a Fez on your left hand. Fezzes are cool.
Sadly I am not a hot young lady, but do I get extra points for photos of my wife?

Cheers
Dim

Yeah I figured my post count would be a problem. I'm kinda the strong silent type :eheh:. No harm in asking though.

Good luck with the alpha and look forward to seeing gold.

Aaron

As a Friend, you already had access to them.

1 - How long have you been a SMF user? (Approximately...): More than 3 years.

2 - If you're planning to use Wedge on a live forum, post its URL.: N/A at the time being.

3 - How much daily time you think you can devote to testing Wedge. (If you're planning to use it on a live forum, you can also rely on your users to help test it.) Please keep in mind that we'd like to keep the private alpha period relatively short (no more than a couple of weeks would be ideal), so I'm really asking about the next couple of weeks mainly. (Well, at least the first couple of weeks after the initial release.): I am always in front of PC. My 50% of 24h is in front of PC. I believe I could spend at least 2 hours for the testing.

4 - Is there a feature in Wedge that you're most interested in? Something you'll focus your testing on, etc... Or just something you're just excited to use!: Yes, most of the wedge features.

5 - If you're a hot young lady, post a picture of you, preferably on a boat (in front of a boat is also acceptable), or in an administration building's waiting line. Extra points if you're wearing a Fez on your left hand. Fezzes are cool.: :lol: :sob: :whistle:

I can't seem to access the beta boards. I should be able to, right?

Well I can access the documentation area but this is what I'm having trouble with:

Me too.. :unsure:

Sorry, can't help you there. I received instructions from the boss dudes on how to download it, and it used personal logins (SVN), which is why I'm so vague in describing how you download it, I actually don't know how Wedge will be accessible to others.

1 - How long have you been a SMF user? I have been using smf since prior to 2006

2 - If you're planning to use Wedge on a live forum, post its URL. localhost

3 - How much daily time you think you can devote to testing Wedge. I can put in a few hours a day or more depending on what else is going on, on the internet

4 - Is there a feature in Wedge that you're most interested in? I am interested in seeing the admin panel and how things are setup to deal with member groups and board access.

I have been lurking around here for a while, just not posted. I am a former smf support team member. If you want more details as to who i am send a pm, I will not post who i am although arantor can vouch for who I am [if he can figure out who i am].

I'm pretty sure I know who icari is, I suspect I have an as-yet-unreplied to PM on another forum about this (mostly because I haven't had time to sit and write a proper reply) and if it is who I think it is, yes, I would be willing to vouch. :)