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Title: Looking for volunteers to test the Wedge private alpha!
Post by: Nao on October 22nd, 2012, 05:27 PM
I think it's worthy of a public topic...

We're looking for hot young ladies to test our software, and possibly our hardware later on.
If you're a fat old man, you're welcome too, but you won't get a chance to sample the hardware though. At least not mine :ph34r:

So, here's what you have to do if you're interested...

Prerequisites

- You MUST be well versed into the SMF software itself. If you're new to SMF, or have relatively little experience with it, you're probably better off testing SMF some more, at least until we get the software ready for prime time.

- You MUST be well versed into forum administration, that goes without saying. You must have a good understanding of the SMF admin area, and be prepared to see the many changes it holds, and determine whether they feel more logical to you -- or not.

- You SHOULD have good MySQL experience in general.

- You MUST have good MySQL and diff patch experience if you're planning to install the alpha on a 'live' website. The reason is that, let me be clear on this, we will NOT release any SQL patches for further updates. We will do so when Wedge is gold, but not before, because it's a pain in the ass. So, if we're releasing an update to the alpha that changes the database structure, you should be able to:
(a) make a diff between of the install.sql script you used when you installed, and the updated install.sql file,
(b) spot the differences between the two,
(c) launch phpMyAdmin or whatever, and apply these changes MANUALLY.

- You MUST be ready to install all new updates as they come out (or at least in a timely manner). There's no point in testing software if the bugs you find were already fixed... Basically, if you find a bug, make sure you're using the latest version before you report it.

- You SHOULD be participating in the forums already. If you only have a couple of posts, you're less likely to be granted private alpha access. Not that you shouldn't try to get access, but I'm just saying -- it's a private alpha, so we're not interested in spreading the Wedge codebase immediately.

How to apply

Post a reply to this topic, with this information:

1 - How long have you been a SMF user? (Approximately...)

2 - If you're planning to use Wedge on a live forum, post its URL.

3 - How much daily time you think you can devote to testing Wedge. (If you're planning to use it on a live forum, you can also rely on your users to help test it.) Please keep in mind that we'd like to keep the private alpha period relatively short (no more than a couple of weeks would be ideal), so I'm really asking about the next couple of weeks mainly. (Well, at least the first couple of weeks after the initial release.)

4 - Is there a feature in Wedge that you're most interested in? Something you'll focus your testing on, etc... Or just something you're just excited to use!

5 - If you're a hot young lady, post a picture of you, preferably on a boat (in front of a boat is also acceptable), or in an administration building's waiting line. Extra points if you're wearing a Fez on your left hand. Fezzes are cool.

That should be all...
(Oh, and don't bother with (5)... My girlfriend would hate to see a picture of a waiting line. Bad memories.)
Title: Re: Looking for volunteers to test the Wedge private alpha!
Post by: Pandos on October 22nd, 2012, 06:19 PM
OK, to be honest i can't wait to test wedge  :whistle:


Using a heavy tweaked version of SMF since 2006 with about 2.6 Mio posts at this time.


I'm planning to use wedge for testing purposes as an live forum with my moderators only before changing from smf to wedge (at least as importers and a solution for our growing relocated image-folders are available .). URL will be closed to public, but if you want you can get access to it.


So we're about 10 people that will test wedge in all manners. Some hours a day.
Gallery and Blogs are one of the most interesting things for us (banning features when available).


I will look into performance of database and try to setup some regex for webserver that aren't supporting .htaccess.
We use Cherokee as Webserver and a Percona Server-Cluster as DB.


Regards


Sven


Damn.... Playboy is holding the rights of my pictures  :lol:
Title: Re: Looking for volunteers to test the Wedge private alpha!
Post by: lazyt on October 22nd, 2012, 10:18 PM
Well if you can use a fat fifty  plus year old idiot as a tester I'd be willing and ready. I've had SMF forums of my own since 2008. I used a few as a luser before that, not sure when I first used it.

I could probably get my mods to help me test it. I would not make it a totally live as in replacing one of my sites.

I have two reseller accounts and a couple of VPS's I can toss it up on (one openvz the other xen). With 30 plus domain names I think I could find one to use...maybe.

I'm retired so time just depends on what disasters hit the homestead. lol

I'm wanting to look at the admin sections and play with them.  But mainly I'd like to dive in and see if I can break it.
Title: Re: Looking for volunteers to test the Wedge private alpha!
Post by: Norodo on October 22nd, 2012, 11:44 PM
Huzzah, alpha time!

Hopefully I will get some reports on what to work on when it comes to documentation now!
Title: Re: Looking for volunteers to test the Wedge private alpha!
Post by: agent47 on October 23rd, 2012, 12:38 AM
Q. How long have you been a SMF user? (Approximately...)

A. Approximately 4 years.

Q. If you're planning to use Wedge on a live forum, post its URL.

A. Not planning planning to use it on a live forum but rather on a shared server which I have lying around as I moved my main site to a different hosting. I'd even invite a couple of fellow SMF users who I'm quite familiar with to come help with testing.

Q. How much daily time you think you can devote to testing Wedge. (If you're planning to use it on a live forum, you can also rely on your users to help test it.) Please keep in mind that we'd like to keep the private alpha period relatively short (no more than a couple of weeks would be ideal), so I'm really asking about the next couple of weeks mainly. (Well, at least the first couple of weeks after the initial release.)

A. I'm free as a bird since I'm currently on semester break. Practically as long as I'm not asleep, I'm in front of my PC so one thing I can assure you is that I've got a lot of time on my hands. Also the fact that you're asking users to spend time with the software for the next couple of weeks to speed up things I think makes me an ideal candidate as I said I really don't have much to do in the coming few weeks.

Q. Is there a feature in Wedge that you're most interested in? Something you'll focus your testing on, etc... Or just something you're just excited to use!

A. I'm quite eager to test out the admin-side of Wedge. Also quite excited to study the templates as I plan to design skins for Wedge in the near future.
Title: Re: Looking for volunteers to test the Wedge private alpha!
Post by: Dr. Deejay on October 23rd, 2012, 09:41 AM
I would be more than happy to help out with testing. :)

1 - How long have you been a SMF user? (Approximately...) Since February 2010, so 2.5 years or so.

2 - If you're planning to use Wedge on a live forum, post its URL. -

3 - How much daily time you think you can devote to testing Wedge. (If you're planning to use it on a live forum, you can also rely on your users to help test it.) Please keep in mind that we'd like to keep the private alpha period relatively short (no more than a couple of weeks would be ideal), so I'm really asking about the next couple of weeks mainly. (Well, at least the first couple of weeks after the initial release.) I don't have classes at mondays, so at least three days a week. I also have +/- 4 hours of spare time a day when I need to go to school.

4 - Is there a feature in Wedge that you're most interested in? Something you'll focus your testing on, etc... Or just something you're just excited to use! The moderation filters. :)

5 - If you're a hot young lady, post a picture of you, preferably on a boat (in front of a boat is also acceptable), or in an administration building's waiting line. Extra points if you're wearing a Fez on your left hand. Fezzes are cool. -
Title: Re: Looking for volunteers to test the Wedge private alpha!
Post by: Alanthar on October 23rd, 2012, 02:06 PM
1. Using SMF since December 2005.
2. Wedge will be run at http://vm-gaming.de instead of SMF once the required plugins are converted. Tests will run at dev.vm-gaming.de.
3. Between me and my mods it will be around 4-5 hours a day.
4. Plugin system and automated theme-switching for different devices are the features I want to try first.
Title: Re: Looking for volunteers to test the Wedge private alpha!
Post by: Arantor on October 23rd, 2012, 03:18 PM
As a warning to anyone who is thinking about this... As I have said in multiple places, banning does not work. If you are planning on running on a live site, be prepared for the fact that you cannot actually ban anyone, though you can post ban through warnings and other methods should you need to.
Title: Re: Looking for volunteers to test the Wedge private alpha!
Post by: lazyt on October 23rd, 2012, 03:30 PM
Banning never works any way.
Title: Re: Looking for volunteers to test the Wedge private alpha!
Post by: Arantor on October 23rd, 2012, 03:57 PM
Well, I know that, but the ban functionality is currently completely broken. ;)
Title: Re: Looking for volunteers to test the Wedge private alpha!
Post by: Powerbob on October 23rd, 2012, 05:17 PM
I have been using SMF since late 2003

I have a test site, currently with installed SMF 2.1 Alpha :whistle: My Test Site(http://www.pplb.net/test/index.php)

I have several websites (unfortunately adult sites ::) ), for over 10 years now, so I know my way round with MYSQL :angel:

looking forward to looking at the admin section, and plugins. I tend to spend 4-5 hrs daily on my sites.
Title: Re: Looking for volunteers to test the Wedge private alpha!
Post by: Farjo on October 23rd, 2012, 08:34 PM
Hi, been using SMF for 5 years, live since a year ago. Available time will be perhaps a couple of hours a day. Like Bob I'm most looking forward to the seeing the admin section.

Title: Re: Looking for volunteers to test the Wedge private alpha!
Post by: tfs on October 24th, 2012, 12:04 AM
1) I've been an SMF user since 2009.
2) This will only be run on test forums for now.
3) This varies widely, but would average to somewhere between 30 and 90 minutes per day.
4) I'm interested in eventually running SimpleDesk on Wedge.  I also have a site with a few thousand audio/photo/video files using Aeva Media, which I'd eventually like to port over.
5) Smokey Greene sings "I Just Don't Look Good Naked Anymore(http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U6jhPBHe238#)"
Title: Re: Looking for volunteers to test the Wedge private alpha!
Post by: Aaron Smith on October 24th, 2012, 01:03 AM
1. I've been an SMF user for 5+ years. Really not sure how long. Seems like forever.

2. I'll be testing on a live url. I'm planning several class based community gaming sites for the future so some friends I've chosen as moderators will help with testing.

3. If I had to put a number on it we could probably get in 3-5 solid hours a day between my friends and I.
 
4. For me personally I'm most interested in theming and integration with other components. My friends are probably. more interested in the administration/moderation features.

5. :lol:
Title: Re: Looking for volunteers to test the Wedge private alpha!
Post by: Drunken Clam on October 24th, 2012, 08:18 AM
1. SMF Administrator for around 8 years.

2. Will be testing on a 'test' forum. :ph34r:

3. Somewhere between 3 and 4 hours per day. :^^;:

4. Just interested in the whole package, will enjoy trying to break it! :whistle:
Title: Re: Looking for volunteers to test the Wedge private alpha!
Post by: Zootalaws on October 26th, 2012, 01:32 PM
1/ SMF user/admin for 5 years or so, systems integrator for 30+ years.
2/ multiple different test environments - two separate web hosts in the US, one in the UK, home network with multiple VMs
3/ Idly retired ;) I have lots of time to indulge myself.
4/ Admin backend - security especially.

5/ Roger that

(http://24.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lzq5tca7OL1r2c0bxo1_500.jpg)
Title: Re: Looking for volunteers to test the Wedge private alpha!
Post by: Dragooon on October 26th, 2012, 06:03 PM
1/ Been using SMF since March 27th 2007.
2/ Local development setup
3/ A few hours I guess.
4/ Plugins and other new development related stuff (even the ones related to themes).
5/ You don't want one :D
Title: Re: Looking for volunteers to test the Wedge private alpha!
Post by: Arantor on October 26th, 2012, 06:41 PM
Dragooon, you know you already have access anyway right?
Title: Re: Looking for volunteers to test the Wedge private alpha!
Post by: MultiformeIngegno on October 26th, 2012, 06:43 PM
:)
Quote from Arantor on October 26th, 2012, 06:41 PM
Dragooon, you know you already have access anyway right?
LOL
Title: Re: Looking for volunteers to test the Wedge private alpha!
Post by: Nao on October 26th, 2012, 06:52 PM
@Dragooon> Being a consultant, I think you know you already have access to the pre-alpha... :P

@Zootalaws> Oh, that's a nice pair of fezzes you have there... What? Only one? Oh sorry...

@Aaron Smith> Still... First post, eh..? You'll have to participate a bit more until I can trust you with a private alpha ;)

@Pandos> I'm afraid the admin area is missing a UI for blogs right now... The only way to create a blog is to change the database value for the board. Also, if anyone's interested -- it's also missing UI for show_when, which is a per-membergroup setting determining whether the group will show up below your user name or not... :-/

@Everyone> Welcome to the Beta Tester group ;)
Right now there's not much to do for you... When time comes, I'll create a media album where you'll have access to the files. :)
Title: Re: Looking for volunteers to test the Wedge private alpha!
Post by: Dragooon on October 26th, 2012, 07:04 PM
I was hoping for some special mojo with a private alpha. Is there none?
Title: Re: Looking for volunteers to test the Wedge private alpha!
Post by: Arantor on October 26th, 2012, 07:08 PM
No special mojo that is unique to being a beta tester ;)
Title: Re: Looking for volunteers to test the Wedge private alpha!
Post by: Dragooon on October 26th, 2012, 07:14 PM
Aww...

PS: Just kidding around, great to see wedge finally enter alpha. People are gonna love it :)
Title: Re: Looking for volunteers to test the Wedge private alpha!
Post by: MultiformeIngegno on October 26th, 2012, 07:19 PM
Unfortunately I cannot guarantee you enough time these days to test the alpha.. hopefully I'll have more free time soon. ;)
Title: Re: Looking for volunteers to test the Wedge private alpha!
Post by: Farjo on October 26th, 2012, 07:26 PM
Hey we've got two badges :yahoo: It's like working for McDonalds again (in a good way - I did enjoy it). How can we get the Smiley badge :D <-- my winning smile
Title: Re: Looking for volunteers to test the Wedge private alpha!
Post by: Nao on October 26th, 2012, 07:32 PM
I will give Beta access to these groups: WedgeWard (obviously?!), Consultants and Testers.
That's all there is to say... You don't have to subscribe ;)
Friends do have to, though. But they can request to have the Testers group off their group list in the topic pages ;) (I'm not 100% sure I can do it, but I'm sure there's a setting in show_when for that... :P)

@Lorenzo> If you'll ask me, Friends have earned the right to test the alpha even without promising to test it.
And since I'm kinda making the rules for this... :whistle:
Title: Re: Looking for volunteers to test the Wedge private alpha!
Post by: Pandos on October 26th, 2012, 08:15 PM
*lol*
Sometimes i feel to live in my database :)

Title: Re: Looking for volunteers to test the Wedge private alpha!
Post by: ['Daniel'] on October 26th, 2012, 08:26 PM
Quote from Nao on October 26th, 2012, 07:32 PM
I will give Beta access to these groups: WedgeWard (obviously?!), Consultants and Testers.
That's all there is to say... You don't have to subscribe ;)
Friends do have to, though. But they can request to have the Testers group off their group list in the topic pages ;) (I'm not 100% sure I can do it, but I'm sure there's a setting in show_when for that... :P)

@Lorenzo> If you'll ask me, Friends have earned the right to test the alpha even without promising to test it.
And since I'm kinda making the rules for this... :whistle:
I'd love to help testing but same as Lorenzo, I don't have that much time now but I'm happy to hear that. I'm sure going to do my best to test as much as possible :)
Title: Re: Looking for volunteers to test the Wedge private alpha!
Post by: Shawn on October 27th, 2012, 03:07 AM
1 - How long have you been a SMF user?

I used SMF way back when during either 1.0 or 1.1 days and now I use 2.0. I own the largest admin forum powered by SMF if that matters... I am no developer for SMF but I know my way around the forum as an admin and can edit code here and there when needed. :)

2 - If you're planning to use Wedge on a live forum, post its URL.

I actually have a new forum using SMF that I haven't launched or even configured that much yet. I can use Wedge for that one... www.opinionjunkies.com will be the URL, its planned to be a debate/politics forum :)

3 - How much daily time you think you can devote to testing Wedge.

Just ask Arantor how much I can dedicate myself to a forum per day... :P something 200 new topics >_<

4 - Is there a feature in Wedge that you're most interested in?

I've heard a lot about it over a year now and I've been wanting to test it out badly... who knows, if I like it a lot and a conversion from SMF to wedge comes out, I may have the largest admin forum powered by Wedge one day ;)

5 - If you're a hot young lady, post a picture of you, preferably on a boat (in front of a boat is also acceptable), or in an administration building's waiting line. Extra points if you're wearing a Fez on your left hand. Fezzes are cool.

I'm no hot lady but I have been told I look hot in my spandex shorts >_< <--- cyclist

Fezzes are cool and here is one with me: http://sphotos-b.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash4/329987_486615491350440_1774534853_o.jpg
Title: Re: Looking for volunteers to test the Wedge private alpha!
Post by: Arantor on October 27th, 2012, 03:10 AM
Shawn's pretty hardcore when he gets going but as I said earlier in this thread, banning is currently not an option, and as such I would not suggest it as a candidate for a debate forum. Other than that, I'd vouch for Shawn :)
Title: Re: Looking for volunteers to test the Wedge private alpha!
Post by: Shawn on October 27th, 2012, 03:24 AM
Quote from Arantor on October 27th, 2012, 03:10 AM
Shawn's pretty hardcore when he gets going but as I said earlier in this thread, banning is currently not an option, and as such I would not suggest it as a candidate for a debate forum. Other than that, I'd vouch for Shawn :)
Okay, well then I have another idea for it :) I am making a Masonic Cycling Club with an open forum, secrets and taking over the world plans won't be discussed on the forum, so I would use it for that one :)

It would then be at www.templecyclists.com/forum once setup
Title: Re: Looking for volunteers to test the Wedge private alpha!
Post by: verm on October 27th, 2012, 06:19 AM
No harm in trying...

I've been on and off SMF since early 2005...and would like to test Wedge on one live site...

I'll spend as much time needed to get the site running with Wedge smoothly...(parallel setup and switch over when everything is good)

Just one question (if it has been asked before then I'm sorry for repeating the question).

Is there any significant performance gain using Wedge versus SMF from server resource usage perspective?
Title: Re: Looking for volunteers to test the Wedge private alpha!
Post by: Nao on October 27th, 2012, 10:22 AM
@Testers> Okay, due to a bug in Wedge's membergroup handling, you probably didn't have access to any boards if you weren't already a Friend. This should be fixed... (And I thought it was enough to use the "based off Regular membergroup" option in the group creation page...)

@verm> Performance is one of the things that obsessed me over the course of these two years. Here's what you can expect:

- Overall server performance: it's not going to be improved. Wedge currently does many more operations per page than SMF does. It notably tests for the presence of many files, which I have yet to optimize. I can't decide between using the cache system with a relatively low timeout, or adding an admin setting to 'force' considering the files as okay. This will definitely have to be addressed (mostly because once you install a forum and it's running well, you rarely launch your FTP client to upload new skins.) Other than that particular point, it should be on par with SMF -- I think we've optimized a lot of slow parts, but because SMF is already fast to begin with, we mostly used the extra power to add new features.

- Overall perceived performance: that's where it's becoming fun... Well, the difference isn't going to be TOO obvious either, but a first-time visitor should have much better performance, most notably with graphics being loaded instantly. If you try and run a SMF forum through Google PageRank, you'll see that your page gets something like a 70 or 80/100 score (I'm not sure exactly, it's been a long time.) Once you upgrade it to Wedge and re-run the test, it will jump to at least 95/100. Most of the bandwidth bottlenecks have been resolved. The only 'big' file left to load is jQuery itself (about 30KB), but even then -- by default it will load from the Google CDN, which your users are likely to ALREADY have in their browser cache, because it's used by so many websites out there. It's the whole point of using jQuery, really[1].
Quote from Shawn on October 27th, 2012, 03:07 AM
I've heard a lot about it over a year now and I've been wanting to test it out badly... who knows, if I like it a lot and a conversion from SMF to wedge comes out, I may have the largest admin forum powered by Wedge one day ;)
Well, the converter has been ready for quite some time (maybe it's broken right now, I haven't tried it since last March when this very website was converted to run Wedge...), I'm just not planning to release it during the alpha, except to users who'd like to run their live forum with Wedge and can guarantee they won't be calling me every one minute for a support issue related to the converter or Wedge generally.
Quote from Shawn on October 27th, 2012, 03:07 AM
Fezzes are cool and here is one with me: http://sphotos-b.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash4/329987_486615491350440_1774534853_o.jpg
But it's not on your left hand! How disappointed!

Oh, I used the opportunity to add you to the Friends group. I thought it was done already...
 1. I don't know why browser vendors aren't already shipping with embedded jQuery versions... Or even forcing the cache to retain all jQuery versions for weeks after they're loaded. Heck, maybe they're already doing it...
Title: Re: Looking for volunteers to test the Wedge private alpha!
Post by: Antes on October 27th, 2012, 10:48 AM
1) Nearly 4 years
2) Not for now (localhost is my friend)
3) 2 hours per day maybe less coz of my school.
4) Aeva / Plug-in system / WeCSS (mostly WeCSS)
5) :(

to be honest i know basics of mysql, i think this also be awesome experience and study for me but i think i can handle manuel patching via phpmyadmin.
Title: Re: Looking for volunteers to test the Wedge private alpha!
Post by: Farjo on October 27th, 2012, 03:17 PM
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@Testers> Okay, due to a bug in Wedge's membergroup handling, you probably didn't have access to any boards if you weren't already a Friend. This should be fixed...
Do you mean the betatesters? If so I cannot see any extra board(s) today.
Title: Re: Looking for volunteers to test the Wedge private alpha!
Post by: Dim on October 27th, 2012, 06:30 PM
First of all hello. Long time reader of this forum and have been keeping up to date with the work you are doing, but have not registered until now as I had nothing really to offer the conversation.

I realise as a new member this will count against me :D

While I may not be considered for testing the Alpha version (but would like to be, want to get cracking on it), I would like to put my name in the hat for testing at some point during the softwares development.

To cut a short story long, I run a new forum which was started in the early part of this year. Decent membership, 600 members, 60,000 posts in the first 8 months so we are growing pretty well. Using a very hacked version of SMF, to the point where we have to manually code all modications.

The situation we are at the moment is I have several very good volunteer devs, two of which work in software developement, but both frankly are sick of SMF and the way its badly written, and poorly implemented, and we are faced with two choices.

Plodding on with SMF as it stands in which case its a matter of me making the best of a bad lot, or moving to a new platform that is actually up to date, modern and well implemented. This will happen, its just a matter of when we decide to leave SMF and what options there are, and so testing Wedge would be ideal for us to explore options going forward.

Onto the questions

1 - How long have you been a SMF user? (Approximately...)
Using SMF since January, previously PhpBB and Yabbse. Total fed up with the badly written nature of SMF. Have been well and truly into the guts of smf over the last year.

2 - If you're planning to use Wedge on a live forum, post its URL.
Would run it on a mirror of our existing forum velorooms.com at something like wedge.velorooms , accessed by moderators, devs and selected users with coding backgrounds

3 - How much daily time you think you can devote to testing Wedge.
Personally, I work from home doing graphic design and running websites/forum so I can pretty much devote to it as much time is needed

4 - Is there a feature in Wedge that you're most interested in? Something you'll focus your testing on, etc... Or just something you're just excited to use!
The main thing we are looking for is consistency across the package. Consistent calling of Javascript rather than individual elements all doing their own thing, as well as developing layout and theming. Calendar useage, media embedding etc.

5 - If you're a hot young lady, post a picture of you, preferably on a boat (in front of a boat is also acceptable), or in an administration building's waiting line. Extra points if you're wearing a Fez on your left hand. Fezzes are cool.
Sadly I am not a hot young lady, but do I get extra points for photos of my wife?

Cheers
Dim
Title: Re: Looking for volunteers to test the Wedge private alpha!
Post by: Aaron Smith on October 27th, 2012, 08:17 PM
Quote from Nao on October 26th, 2012, 06:52 PM
@Aaron Smith> Still... First post, eh..? You'll have to participate a bit more until I can trust you with a private alpha ;)
Yeah I figured my post count would be a problem. I'm kinda the strong silent type :eheh:. No harm in asking though.

Good luck with the alpha and look forward to seeing gold.

Aaron
Title: Re: Looking for volunteers to test the Wedge private alpha!
Post by: live627 on October 27th, 2012, 08:37 PM
Quote from Farjo on October 27th, 2012, 03:17 PM
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@Testers> Okay, due to a bug in Wedge's membergroup handling, you probably didn't have access to any boards if you weren't already a Friend. This should be fixed...
Do you mean the betatesters? If so I cannot see any extra board(s) today.
As a Friend, you already had access to them.
Title: Re: Looking for volunteers to test the Wedge private alpha!
Post by: sokha on October 28th, 2012, 02:46 AM
1 - How long have you been a SMF user? (Approximately...): More than 3 years.

2 - If you're planning to use Wedge on a live forum, post its URL.: N/A at the time being.

3 - How much daily time you think you can devote to testing Wedge. (If you're planning to use it on a live forum, you can also rely on your users to help test it.) Please keep in mind that we'd like to keep the private alpha period relatively short (no more than a couple of weeks would be ideal), so I'm really asking about the next couple of weeks mainly. (Well, at least the first couple of weeks after the initial release.): I am always in front of PC. My 50% of 24h is in front of PC. I believe I could spend at least 2 hours for the testing.

4 - Is there a feature in Wedge that you're most interested in? Something you'll focus your testing on, etc... Or just something you're just excited to use!: Yes, most of the wedge features.

5 - If you're a hot young lady, post a picture of you, preferably on a boat (in front of a boat is also acceptable), or in an administration building's waiting line. Extra points if you're wearing a Fez on your left hand. Fezzes are cool.: :lol: :sob: :whistle:
Title: Re: Looking for volunteers to test the Wedge private alpha!
Post by: Dragooon on October 28th, 2012, 06:45 AM
I can't seem to access the beta boards. I should be able to, right?
Title: Re: Looking for volunteers to test the Wedge private alpha!
Post by: agent47 on October 28th, 2012, 12:49 PM
Quote from Dragooon on October 28th, 2012, 06:45 AM
I can't seem to access the beta boards. I should be able to, right?
Well I can access the documentation area but this is what I'm having trouble with:
Quote from Norodo
Get the latest Wedge package and unpack it on your server in a web accessible folder.
Title: Re: Looking for volunteers to test the Wedge private alpha!
Post by: MultiformeIngegno on October 28th, 2012, 12:53 PM
Quote from Dragooon on October 28th, 2012, 06:45 AM
I can't seem to access the beta boards. I should be able to, right?
Me too.. :unsure:
Title: Re: Looking for volunteers to test the Wedge private alpha!
Post by: Norodo on October 28th, 2012, 01:20 PM
Quote from agent47 on October 28th, 2012, 12:49 PM
Quote from Norodo
Get the latest Wedge package and unpack it on your server in a web accessible folder.
Sorry, can't help you there. I received instructions from the boss dudes on how to download it, and it used personal logins (SVN), which is why I'm so vague in describing how you download it, I actually don't know how Wedge will be accessible to others.
Title: Re: Looking for volunteers to test the Wedge private alpha!
Post by: icari on October 28th, 2012, 09:46 PM
1 - How long have you been a SMF user? I have been using smf since prior to 2006

2 - If you're planning to use Wedge on a live forum, post its URL. localhost

3 - How much daily time you think you can devote to testing Wedge. I can put in a few hours a day or more depending on what else is going on, on the internet

4 - Is there a feature in Wedge that you're most interested in? I am interested in seeing the admin panel and how things are setup to deal with member groups and board access.

I have been lurking around here for a while, just not posted. I am a former smf support team member. If you want more details as to who i am send a pm, I will not post who i am although arantor can vouch for who I am [if he can figure out who i am].
Title: Re: Looking for volunteers to test the Wedge private alpha!
Post by: Arantor on October 28th, 2012, 09:57 PM
I'm pretty sure I know who icari is, I suspect I have an as-yet-unreplied to PM on another forum about this (mostly because I haven't had time to sit and write a proper reply) and if it is who I think it is, yes, I would be willing to vouch. :)
Title: Re: Looking for volunteers to test the Wedge private alpha!
Post by: Pandos on October 28th, 2012, 10:32 PM
Quote from MultiformeIngegno on October 28th, 2012, 12:53 PM
Quote from Dragooon on October 28th, 2012, 06:45 AM
I can't seem to access the beta boards. I should be able to, right?
Me too.. :unsure:
Same for me...
Title: Re: Looking for volunteers to test the Wedge private alpha!
Post by: Dismal Shadow on October 28th, 2012, 11:12 PM
I don't mind testing locally as I usually do, I don't plan on uploading Live since I don't have a domain or host anymore.
Title: Re: Looking for volunteers to test the Wedge private alpha!
Post by: Dim on October 29th, 2012, 02:20 AM
can someone vouch for me please :eheh:
Title: Re: Looking for volunteers to test the Wedge private alpha!
Post by: Arantor on October 29th, 2012, 02:38 AM
I can't vouch for people I don't know and/or haven't worked alongside before now...
Title: Re: Looking for volunteers to test the Wedge private alpha!
Post by: Nao on October 30th, 2012, 10:23 PM
Quote from Farjo on October 27th, 2012, 03:17 PM
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@Testers> Okay, due to a bug in Wedge's membergroup handling, you probably didn't have access to any boards if you weren't already a Friend. This should be fixed...
Do you mean the betatesters? If so I cannot see any extra board(s) today.
No, I mean the Friend boards. There are no 'Beta boards' as of now. My plans are to do the beta testing in public boards (i.e. bug reports board), there's nothing to hide really. :)
The Tester group's only difference is that it will have access to the download page. Which isn't built yet...
Posted: October 30th, 2012, 10:16 PM
Quote from Arantor on October 28th, 2012, 09:57 PM
I'm pretty sure I know who icari is, I suspect I have an as-yet-unreplied to PM on another forum about this (mostly because I haven't had time to sit and write a proper reply) and if it is who I think it is, yes, I would be willing to vouch. :)
While I'm okay with giving beta access to people who at least seem enthusiastic about the project (velorooms here was a lurker but I think he seems to be fit to help for the alpha?), I'm certainly not okay with giving access to people who flat-out point out how mysterious they are.

The beta will be private, but only to ensure it doesn't get out of control too soon. The bug reports will be public.
To me, 'mysterious people' will have to wait for a public alpha.
Title: Re: Looking for volunteers to test the Wedge private alpha!
Post by: Farjo on October 30th, 2012, 10:36 PM
Gotcha :)
Title: Re: Looking for volunteers to test the Wedge private alpha!
Post by: Oracle on October 30th, 2012, 11:15 PM
Really great to see this getting off the ground. Hats off to both of you! :cool:
Title: Re: Looking for volunteers to test the Wedge private alpha!
Post by: spoogs on October 31st, 2012, 01:58 AM
Great to see the private alpha has come to fruition  :)

Much as I'd love to get in on it, these days there just aren't enough days in my day. I've become more of a reader of late so i'll just kick back and re the bugs and fixes for now.

Great job guys.
Title: Re: Looking for volunteers to test the Wedge private alpha!
Post by: Dim on October 31st, 2012, 04:35 PM
Quote from Nao on October 30th, 2012, 10:23 PM
While I'm okay with giving beta access to people who at least seem enthusiastic about the project (velorooms here was a lurker but I think he seems to be fit to help for the alpha?), I'm certainly not okay with giving access to people who flat-out point out how mysterious they are.

The beta will be private, but only to ensure it doesn't get out of control too soon. The bug reports will be public.
To me, 'mysterious people' will have to wait for a public alpha.
I think thats perfectly fair. I myself accept that I wouldnt be considered for the first alpha, but when im considered ready I am keen to take part. The fact that ive already asked a couple of questions (despite reading the forum for over a year) that had already been answered shows that im not fully up to date on what the features are etc, and might ask annoying questions. .. :)

The other problem is, as soon as the alpha or beta is out for widescale release, people start using it as a platform in the wild, for live forums, and you end up with an "unfinished" product,  that may or may not have bugs, or unfinished features, being used in a real world environment which can create a negative impression of said product.

With a closed testing program if it is being used on live forums at least you can control where its being used, and make sure that members of that forum are aware its an "alpha" platform.
Posted: October 31st, 2012, 04:33 PM

On a side note, really pleased that the momentum seems to be growing as far as development goes. Following the forum for a while it was all systems go, then seemed to die off a bit, and was worried it might go the way of other forks. Interesting to read the politics behind it all on the smf forum as well. :D
Title: Re: Looking for volunteers to test the Wedge private alpha!
Post by: Nao on October 31st, 2012, 05:06 PM
- Just want to reiterate that the private alpha is only meant to be for a short time. Well, 'short' may be relative just as I planned to release Wedge back in 2011 (I'm too old for this shit™), but really the goal is to make sure that most people will be able to install it without trouble and play with it immediately.

- And, my plans were to go for an October release, it's REALLY going to be hard to release it tonight, but I guess it's doable... I mean, I can always release a second alpha this weekend, etc, etc. I don't know about Pete's plans to release his fixes for his areas of expertise (admin panel mostly).
Title: Re: Looking for volunteers to test the Wedge private alpha!
Post by: Arantor on October 31st, 2012, 05:11 PM
My plans are to fix them when they're done, mostly because the stuff that's broken needs more than minor work to fix it. But I wouldn't be running anything 'private alpha' on a live site personally, so it wouldn't bother me to leave it a little while...

FWIW, I'd be looking to do a private alpha now, then a more public one for Christmas-time (which gives me time to finish up what's going on here and finish all the stuff that *really* needs to be fixed) since no-one should be running private alphas on live sites unless they know exactly what they're doing and are fully aware of the consequences of the things raised.
Title: Re: Looking for volunteers to test the Wedge private alpha!
Post by: Dismal Shadow on October 31st, 2012, 05:38 PM
Christmas? I don't have time for that? All the time goes to Doctor Who. :niark:
Title: Re: Looking for volunteers to test the Wedge private alpha!
Post by: Arantor on October 31st, 2012, 05:57 PM
Then you have a lot more *time* on your hands ;)
Title: Re: Looking for volunteers to test the Wedge private alpha!
Post by: Asgard on October 31st, 2012, 06:07 PM
Quote from Arantor on October 31st, 2012, 05:57 PM
Then you have a lot more *time* on your hands ;)
Unfortunately it'll be all wibbly wobbly...
Title: Re: Looking for volunteers to test the Wedge private alpha!
Post by: Arantor on October 31st, 2012, 06:13 PM
Exactly ;)
Title: Re: Looking for volunteers to test the Wedge private alpha!
Post by: lazyt on October 31st, 2012, 06:40 PM
Christmas is good here. The snow keeps me in and I can play online more.
Title: Re: Looking for volunteers to test the Wedge private alpha!
Post by: b4pjoe on November 1st, 2012, 01:17 AM
Great news to hear about the private alpha release. I'm more of a lurker here than anything plus I'm not a coder by any means. And it seems anytime I think of a question, I can search the forum here and find it has already been answered so I haven't had a lot of need to post much here. I look forward to hearing some of the results of people doing the private testing. I would need more of the finished product to test as I'm just knowledgable enough with MySQL to be dangerous. Anyway I'd love to test it out once the database stuff is taken care of in the install and also once there is a convertor to use.

1 - How long have you been a SMF user? (Approximately...) - A little over 5 years.

2 - If you're planning to use Wedge on a live forum, post its URL. - I would test on a copy of my forum before going live. I even do that now with new SMF releases. Better to be safe than sorry.

3 - How much daily time you think you can devote to testing Wedge. (If you're planning to use it on a live forum, you can also rely on your users to help test it.) Please keep in mind that we'd like to keep the private alpha period relatively short (no more than a couple of weeks would be ideal), so I'm really asking about the next couple of weeks mainly. (Well, at least the first couple of weeks after the initial release.) - On any given day 2 hours at least. On many days...more than that.

4 - Is there a feature in Wedge that you're most interested in? Something you'll focus your testing on, etc... Or just something you're just excited to use! - The forum as a whole but I like to tinker with the themes.

5 - If you're a hot young lady, post a picture of you, preferably on a boat (in front of a boat is also acceptable), or in an administration building's waiting line. Extra points if you're wearing a Fez on your left hand. Fezzes are cool. - Can't help you there. :eheh:
Title: Re: Looking for volunteers to test the Wedge private alpha!
Post by: Nao on November 1st, 2012, 01:38 AM
Okay... I'll be honest with you guys.

- It's 1:30am here in Paris. I'm exhausted. I wake up every morning at 6:30am so it's not going to be easy tomorrow...
- I'm done with the alpha. I think it's pretty much ready for release.
- But I don't want to release something that I've completed while very tired, then go to bed, then wake up in the morning to discover a disaster.
- I really, REALLY wanted to release today. I mean it's October 31st and tomorrow is November and I hate November. The name sucks and it makes me think of really cold days. I'm a bit superstitious.
- Still, I did finish it on October 31st...[1]
- So, let's just say the changelog will start with "Private alpha 0.1 - October 31st", all right guys? :P

To sum it up:
- I've got a version I'm relatively happy with (relatively isn't great, but to me it's good enough for a release considering I spent the last few weeks hiding behind my keyboard.)
- I'll release it tomorrow morning.
- That way, I'll be able to assist with any issues while I'm at it.

Everyone fine with that? Click the Like button if you're ready to test tomorrow :P
 1. I'm on the American timezone today. Got too many annoying kids knocking at my door asking for friggin' sweets. Without any costumes. Yeah, the French imported that silly US/Irish tradition, and yet the kids only see the 'sweets' part and don't want to waste time on costumes. I hate Halloween. The only good thing to come out of it was the Nightmare before Christmas.
Title: Re: Looking for volunteers to test the Wedge private alpha!
Post by: Arantor on November 1st, 2012, 01:44 AM
The only thing about the name is simply that in the Roman calendar, October was the 8th month (Oct prefix) and November was the 9th, nothing to be superstitious about.

Let it out and then take at least a week off. No arguments: at least a week's holiday.
Title: Re: Looking for volunteers to test the Wedge private alpha!
Post by: Nao on November 1st, 2012, 02:00 AM
9 = kyû in Japanese. Which is a homonym of 'suffering'.
I'm not making this up, the Japanese are often superstitious about numbers 4 and 9 ;)
(4 being pronounced 'shi', as in 'death'.)

Nah, I'm releasing in a few hours really... It'll be fun. I'm sure everyone will behave! And have fun, too.
See you tomorrow.
Title: Re: Looking for volunteers to test the Wedge private alpha!
Post by: spoogs on November 2nd, 2012, 02:17 AM
Quote from Nao on October 31st, 2012, 05:06 PM
- Just want to reiterate that the private alpha is only meant to be for a short time. Well, 'short' may be relative just as I planned to release Wedge back in 2011 (I'm too old for this shit™), but really the goal is to make sure that most people will be able to install it without trouble and play with it immediately.
Aaah well that I can do. When it gets to the point of using diffs however and manually updating, this I have never done before and depending on how much needs to be put in I may not have time at least not in the immediate future.
Title: Re: Looking for volunteers to test the Wedge private alpha!
Post by: Zootalaws on November 2nd, 2012, 03:45 AM
Well I can see the zip file, but any attempt to d/l it gets met with a "Sorry, but you are not allowed to access the gallery" message :(

And I cleared out my SMF test site special (and wore a fez - but nothing else except the boxers!)
Title: Re: Looking for volunteers to test the Wedge private alpha!
Post by: Nao on November 2nd, 2012, 10:23 PM
I'll have a look tomorrow. Unfortunately I won't have any time to look into this tonight.
Don't worry, you'll definitely have access tomorrow. At worst I'll cook up another transmission method. (No, no e-mails!)
Title: Re: Looking for volunteers to test the Wedge private alpha!
Post by: Arantor on November 2nd, 2012, 10:26 PM
I can always attach the zip files here in the meantime?
Title: Re: Looking for volunteers to test the Wedge private alpha!
Post by: Nao on November 2nd, 2012, 10:31 PM
For a private alpha...? Where?
Maybe the documentation board, but...
Title: Re: Looking for volunteers to test the Wedge private alpha!
Post by: Arantor on November 2nd, 2012, 10:32 PM
In one of the private boards...? Just an option, anyway.
Title: Re: Looking for volunteers to test the Wedge private alpha!
Post by: Nao on November 2nd, 2012, 10:36 PM
But the only people who don't have access to the album are, IIRC, the Beta Testers who aren't in another group as well (i.e. non consultants, non friends.)
So they don't have access to private boards...

But they have access to the doc board, IIRC. Anyway, do as you wish..!
Title: Re: Looking for volunteers to test the Wedge private alpha!
Post by: MultiformeIngegno on November 2nd, 2012, 11:07 PM
I don't have access too (I can't even see the album) :P
Title: Re: Looking for volunteers to test the Wedge private alpha!
Post by: Shawn on November 3rd, 2012, 02:45 AM
Okay I am all setup, I ended up putting wedge at www.kruzzen.com a forum about software projects I am working on. So far, I like it a lot :) Its looking more and more like the future AAF ;D
Title: Re: Looking for volunteers to test the Wedge private alpha!
Post by: Jntg4 on November 3rd, 2012, 04:18 AM
1 - Since 1.1.4 was the most recent version, so 2007.

2 - Not a live forum, I run an EasyPHP for my private sports history database

3 - I have plenty of time on my hands.  I want to transfer my database into a forum mode as well as the wiki for different organizations structure.

4 - Just a change from the same old SMF, that's all.

5 - lol
Title: Re: Looking for volunteers to test the Wedge private alpha!
Post by: Anthony` on November 3rd, 2012, 11:26 PM
1 - Approximately since September 2008.

2 - It will be a private section of my site.

3 - A couple times a week I can devote to playing around with Wedge.

4 - Definitely the Plugin system and front-end stuff will also be a focus.

5 - I am a hot young lady... pls gimme wedge and i show u my pic.
Title: Re: Looking for volunteers to test the Wedge private alpha!
Post by: godboko71 on November 5th, 2012, 12:48 AM
Quote from Nao on October 22nd, 2012, 05:27 PM
1 - How long have you been a SMF user? (Approximately...)
Since 1.0 gold, maybe slightly longer, both as a user and admin, not developer.
Quote from Nao on October 22nd, 2012, 05:27 PM
2 - If you're planning to use Wedge on a live forum, post its URL.
It will be on a sub domain of one of my sites to be determined.
Quote from Nao on October 22nd, 2012, 05:27 PM
3 - How much daily time you think you can devote to testing Wedge. (If you're planning to use it on a live forum, you can also rely on your users to help test it.) Please keep in mind that we'd like to keep the private alpha period relatively short (no more than a couple of weeks would be ideal), so I'm really asking about the next couple of weeks mainly. (Well, at least the first couple of weeks after the initial release.)
At least an hour or two  day, maybe more.
Quote from Nao on October 22nd, 2012, 05:27 PM
4 - Is there a feature in Wedge that you're most interested in? Something you'll focus your testing on, etc... Or just something you're just excited to use!
I am most excited to test the new backend and play with WeCSS. Though to be honest I poke everything at least once :)

PS On mobile safari the preview button does not show a fancy button like the rest.
Title: Re: Looking for volunteers to test the Wedge private alpha!
Post by: MultiformeIngegno on November 5th, 2012, 01:52 PM
Quote from MultiformeIngegno on October 26th, 2012, 07:19 PM
Unfortunately I cannot guarantee you enough time these days to test the alpha.. hopefully I'll have more free time soon. ;)
I partially retract, I think that would be interesting to see how pURLS work with nginx. :)
Title: Re: Looking for volunteers to test the Wedge private alpha!
Post by: Jntg4 on November 6th, 2012, 02:40 AM
Well, guess I've been denied with people posting after me being accepted... oh well, looking forward to public release, keep up the great work guys!
Title: Re: Looking for volunteers to test the Wedge private alpha!
Post by: Nao on November 6th, 2012, 08:31 AM
@Jntg4> Posting doesn't seem to be your forte... The only time you managed to get noticed is by posting a link to vbgamer's site, a very notable cunt and despised among these lands.
Quote from godboko71 on November 5th, 2012, 12:48 AM
I am most excited to test the new backend and play with WeCSS. Though to be honest I poke everything at least once :)
Wess, not WeCSS... Okay, who am I kidding, I keep saying WeCSS in my head as well... Maybe I should revert the rename :lol:
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PS On mobile safari the preview button does not show a fancy button like the rest.
I'm not sure why, and yes I did notice. I guess it's some kind of Safari bug... At least in v4 and 5.
Title: Re: Looking for volunteers to test the Wedge private alpha!
Post by: Nao on November 6th, 2012, 08:33 AM
Oh, I think I should be specific on something...

The Friends group is what it is: a group of our dedicated friends.
While Friends don't have private alpha access by default, requesting access is just a formality. They don't need to fill in the form. They don't even need to test the software thoroughly. They can just try it for fun. All they need to do is, post in this topic and ask for access ;)
Title: Re: Looking for volunteers to test the Wedge private alpha!
Post by: live627 on November 6th, 2012, 09:06 AM
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Wess, not WeCSS... Okay, who am I kidding, I keep saying WeCSS in my head as well... Maybe I should revert the rename :lol:
WeCSS sticks on me, too. To me, it has this nice formal ring to it that is Wedge-specific. In fact, I even forgot that you renamed it! Wess sounds like a mixer somehow,  an electric one that beats the eggs and whips the cream, the secret weapon cooks use to pulverise their food. Sounds too much like Wesson.
Title: Re: Looking for volunteers to test the Wedge private alpha!
Post by: Nao on November 6th, 2012, 10:19 AM
@Jntg4 (bis)> What I mean is, get to posting a bit more, be more enthusiastic, then I'll consider it. Otherwise, please wait for the public alpha :) Which shouldn't take too long to come out... Hopefully.

@John> Maybe I should do a poll... :P
I renamed it to Wess mainly because it's faster to type, and also because I wanted a relatively generic name that encompasses both Class-CSS and Subs-Cache (which is also related to JavaScript compression...)
So I wouldn't really know what's best. It's not that important -- but it'll be if I decide to release it for use in other projects.
Title: Re: Looking for volunteers to test the Wedge private alpha!
Post by: godboko71 on November 6th, 2012, 08:21 PM
Wes's is good if its faster to type! That said either is good
Title: Re: Looking for volunteers to test the Wedge private alpha!
Post by: ['Daniel'] on November 6th, 2012, 09:15 PM
Quote from Nao on November 6th, 2012, 08:33 AM
Oh, I think I should be specific on something...

The Friends group is what it is: a group of our dedicated friends.
While Friends don't have private alpha access by default, requesting access is just a formality. They don't need to fill in the form. They don't even need to test the software thoroughly. They can just try it for fun. All they need to do is, post in this topic and ask for access ;)
Oh can I have access? :D I'd love to try it out, have fun and if anything report back whatever I find! Thanks for the clarification Nao!
Title: Re: Looking for volunteers to test the Wedge private alpha!
Post by: Nao on November 7th, 2012, 12:51 AM
Quote from godboko71 on November 6th, 2012, 08:21 PM
Wes's is good if its faster to type! That said either is good
Well, you know how some people ruined the logo game by saying the Sansation 'w' looked like a boob?
Well, one day I looked at 'Wess' and read 'Wuss', and it kinda killed the name, too... :P
Title: Re: Looking for volunteers to test the Wedge private alpha!
Post by: Arantor on November 7th, 2012, 12:57 AM
And WeCSS won't get autocorrected in a strange way either (or it shouldn't be)
Title: Re: Looking for volunteers to test the Wedge private alpha!
Post by: Nao on November 7th, 2012, 01:02 AM
Lulz, tru dat.

Can look for another name, quite simply... Doesn't have to start with 'We' or have 'CSS' in the name, really. It's just a funny thing of mine...
Title: Re: Looking for volunteers to test the Wedge private alpha!
Post by: live627 on November 7th, 2012, 08:48 AM
FutureStyles
ThatStyleSystemFromThe50thCentury

:P
Title: Re: Looking for volunteers to test the Wedge private alpha!
Post by: garou on November 8th, 2012, 12:37 PM
1 - Been using SMF officially since 2003 and Yabb long before that. I worked on the Forms App that was created by Nathaniel for a couple years before getting out of web design.

2 - Eventually, but plan to work on a private server for a while, at least till its a public beta.

3 - Id say I can work on it a couple hours a day.

4 - Feature wise I'm most interested in Post and topics as well as BBC. In my experience those are probably the most used features of any forum.

5 -Sorry I'm a guy but I'm heavy and have boobs so if you really want pics, I'm willing to demean myself. :lol:
Title: Re: Looking for volunteers to test the Wedge private alpha!
Post by: live627 on November 9th, 2012, 09:32 AM
ohai I've seen you on THL.
Title: Re: Looking for volunteers to test the Wedge private alpha!
Post by: spoogs on November 18th, 2012, 05:39 PM
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1 - How long have you been a SMF user? (Approximately...)
Since 2009
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2 - If you're planning to use Wedge on a live forum, post its URL.
Not at the moment
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3 - How much daily time you think you can devote to testing Wedge. (If you're planning to use it on a live forum, you can also rely on your users to help test it.) Please keep in mind that we'd like to keep the private alpha period relatively short (no more than a couple of weeks would be ideal), so I'm really asking about the next couple of weeks mainly. (Well, at least the first couple of weeks after the initial release.)
Questionable right now but maybe an hour or 2 per week.
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4 - Is there a feature in Wedge that you're most interested in? Something you'll focus your testing on, etc... Or just something you're just excited to use!
Admin panel and the Calendar plugin of late ;)
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5 - If you're a hot young lady, post a picture of you, preferably on a boat (in front of a boat is also acceptable), or in an administration building's waiting line. Extra points if you're wearing a Fez on your left hand. Fezzes are cool.
Looooooook girl with Fez on left hand :eheh:   (http://gifsoup.com/view6/2054505/fez-sweetalks-jackie-a-s.gif)   dammit no boat.
Title: Re: Looking for volunteers to test the Wedge private alpha!
Post by: snoopy-virtual on November 20th, 2012, 06:01 PM
So Wedge is already in the alpha stage! Wonderful news!

I was too busy with my rock band and I had missed it, but luckily live627 sent me a PM telling me. Thanks mate! Cannot wait to try it.

@Nao and/or Arantor> Can you add me to the testers group? Just now I don't see any "download" album inside "media".

I am planning to test it in a few live forums, but haven't decided yet exactly which ones, so I will give you links to them as soon as I do that.

BTW, most of the forums I administer are Spanish, so if I am going to use Wedge in them I will need to translate it to Spanish first. Anybody already working on that?

<note to myself>
Send a PM to Dr Marlboro
</note to myself>
Title: Re: Looking for volunteers to test the Wedge private alpha!
Post by: Arantor on November 20th, 2012, 06:10 PM
Thus far I've suggested staying away from translation simply because of the fact that there's going to be plenty of changes yet.
Title: Re: Looking for volunteers to test the Wedge private alpha!
Post by: snoopy-virtual on November 20th, 2012, 07:04 PM
Changes so drastic to make worthless a translation?

Even if the difference (in language string lines) between alpha and gold is 50% I would think it's worth to start translating.

Of course it depends on how much spare time I can find, but apart from translating it, I don't see anything else I can do to collaborate just now.
Title: Re: Looking for volunteers to test the Wedge private alpha!
Post by: Arantor on November 20th, 2012, 07:07 PM
Not worthless, but potentially enough to make it more effort than just translating a complete language would be.
Title: Re: Looking for volunteers to test the Wedge private alpha!
Post by: Nao on November 20th, 2012, 08:10 PM
I have no problems with anyone trying to make a translation for Wedge... But as I said, this translator would have to be proficient in using diff tools because we're not going to release a language-centric online tool like the SMF team did. (Well, if they shared said tool with us, we could install it on our server but I'm not sure why they would do that in the first place, to be honest.)

Also, sorry about still being very largely absent from here... I can't even keep up with the new posts. I have a few things that are getting close to being committable (fixes and improvements, mostly to Wess), but I just can't find the motivation to come back into the game for now.
Given that it's the very first time it has happened since our officiel début two years ago, and it didn't even happen in my previous burnout situations, I can only reckon that this is half-due to my current burnout, and half-due to my satisfaction at having a half-working alpha out, something like 'now it's your time to work guys' ;)

However, I'll still have to complete Wess and document it either way...
Would love it if some testers were willing to write additional code to add UIs for features like board types and show_when and all those cool features I never wrote a UI for. Honestly, it's not that I don't want to write the UI.. It's that the admin area has become Pete's, and it feels wrong of me to touch it too much. (Or maybe it's just because I hate writing both the French and English versions of every string I have to add... -_-)

Anyway. Wedge looks so cool. I hadn't used it in a couple of days, and it's so cool really.

PS: Pete, the wesql not found error still occurs... And exclusively on Chrome and Safari. Really, it baffles me. I'd suggest we just don't bother, and do a class_exists() test, and if false, just return instead of proceeding. After all, it doesn't seem to affect sessions in any way...
Title: Re: Looking for volunteers to test the Wedge private alpha!
Post by: Arantor on November 21st, 2012, 03:29 AM
I understand exactly what you mean about ownership of certain areas, I've thought more than once about doing things with the media area in the admin panel, e.g. Harmonising everything to use the same style aesthetically and even the code in some places, but every time I think about it, it feels like overstepping my bounds.

As far as translations go, I think the first step is for us to break the languages folder up as we discussed, and if it helps any, I had an idea about having a language pack that I would be responsible for translating, that will be fun to do and will make sure I can keep on top of all the practical i18n issues that I've only really dealt with hypothetically from my perspective. People paying attention to my recent activity should have a clue as to what language pack that might be. If not, you fight like a dairy farmer.

And I see the error is there, but I really have no idea why because I can't reproduce it even on my server when using Chrome.
Title: Re: Looking for volunteers to test the Wedge private alpha!
Post by: nolsilang on November 21st, 2012, 05:51 AM
May I suggest Transifex for translation platform? :https://www.transifex.com/
Title: Re: Looking for volunteers to test the Wedge private alpha!
Post by: Arantor on November 21st, 2012, 06:03 AM
It's totally unsuitable for us, we don't use gettext style language files (for multiple reasons)
Title: Re: Looking for volunteers to test the Wedge private alpha!
Post by: Nao on November 21st, 2012, 07:44 PM
Quote from Arantor on November 21st, 2012, 03:29 AM
I understand exactly what you mean about ownership of certain areas, I've thought more than once about doing things with the media area in the admin panel, e.g. Harmonising everything to use the same style aesthetically and even the code in some places, but every time I think about it, it feels like overstepping my bounds.
When it comes to the media area, feel free to rewrite as you like, especially the admin area. Most of it (the admin stuff) was written by Dragooon and I only fixed bugs and added a few features here and there. I totally agree that it doesn't follow the current Wedge admin guidelines, and I'm sure Shitiz would agree as well ;)
I just don't feel like doing any admin work myself...
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As far as translations go, I think the first step is for us to break the languages folder up as we discussed,
I don't think it's going to help. I'm not saying it shouldn't be done, I'm just saying it won't help regarding the issue at hand, in fact it may make it more bothersome to update...
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and if it helps any, I had an idea about having a language pack that I would be responsible for translating, that will be fun to do and will make sure I can keep on top of all the practical i18n issues that I've only really dealt with hypothetically from my perspective. People paying attention to my recent activity should have a clue as to what language pack that might be. If not, you fight like a dairy farmer.
Qapla!!!
Uh, no, that's not in Monkey Island.

Re: transifex, oh, the poetic irony... The French version of that website is no laughing matter. It sounds like it was translated through Google, or by someone who barely speaks French at the very least...
Title: Re: Looking for volunteers to test the Wedge private alpha!
Post by: shadow82x on December 2nd, 2012, 08:09 AM
Hey folks. Not sure if it's too late to post here or not, but I will anyway because I'm interested in testing Wedge. :P

1 - How long have you been a SMF user?
Since 2006 (6 years)

2 - If you're planning to use Wedge on a live forum, post its URL.
Only on a test site at first. I might start a live site with it once a more final version comes out and is upgradable. :)

3 - How much daily time you think you can devote to testing Wedge.
Varies greatly. I'm on the web literally all day, so I would be able to spend a good deal of time each day testing it.

4 - Is there a feature in Wedge that you're most interested in? Something you'll focus your testing on, etc... Or just something you're just excited to use!
The redesigned admin panel, theming, and thought box. :)

5 - If you're a hot young lady, post a picture of you, preferably on a boat (in front of a boat is also acceptable), or in an administration building's waiting line.
(http://i48.tinypic.com/730w2d.jpg)
Yup, thats me... Don't be hating saying im a 19 year old male, and I'm not a smoking hot female. >.>
Title: Re: Looking for volunteers to test the Wedge private alpha!
Post by: live627 on December 2nd, 2012, 10:10 PM
ohai!
Title: Re: Looking for volunteers to test the Wedge private alpha!
Post by: Mc Fly on December 3rd, 2012, 01:27 PM
Quote from Nao on October 22nd, 2012, 05:27 PM
...

1 - How long have you been a SMF user? (Approximately...)
Ok... using? :hmm: Since SMF was called YABB. ^_^
Administrating since the early 1.0-Beta.
Quote from Nao on October 22nd, 2012, 05:27 PM
2 - If you're planning to use Wedge on a live forum, post its URL.
Surely I will use Wedge on a live forum - that's my intention reading here. It is still too early to name a link, because I do not know which. Using Aeva on some live forums.
Quote from Nao on October 22nd, 2012, 05:27 PM
3 - How much daily time you think you can devote to testing Wedge. (If you're planning to use it on a live forum, you can also rely on your users to help test it.) Please keep in mind that we'd like to keep the private alpha period relatively short (no more than a couple of weeks would be ideal), so I'm really asking about the next couple of weeks mainly. (Well, at least the first couple of weeks after the initial release.)
One or two houres in the evening. Unfortunately I am not a Privateer and must do some work... :eheheh:
Quote from Nao on October 22nd, 2012, 05:27 PM
4 - Is there a feature in Wedge that you're most interested in? Something you'll focus your testing on, etc... Or just something you're just excited to use!
... the gallery ... plugins without changing core ... the calendar-plugin ... :cool:
Quote from Nao on October 22nd, 2012, 05:27 PM
5 - If you're a hot young lady, post a picture of you, preferably on a boat (in front of a boat is also acceptable), or in an administration building's waiting line. Extra points if you're wearing a Fez on your left hand. Fezzes are cool.

...
You do not really want to see a photo of me! And certainly not sun bathing on a boat!!! :o
Title: Re: Looking for volunteers to test the Wedge private alpha!
Post by: Apochalypse on December 13th, 2012, 11:21 AM
Must say that I've been secretly following Wedge dev. and am excited for it.
So I guess I could at least try to get my hand on it and test if I should when the time comes switch to it. :)
I know I'm not an active user on the forums here but thats cause what time I have I try to spend on my work and social life instead.
But here goes:
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1 - How long have you been a SMF user? (Approximately...)
User: whoa, cant say exactly but would say definitively since 2008.
Admin responsibilities: since 2009 ish.
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2 - If you're planning to use Wedge on a live forum, post its URL.
The plan would be if possible to convert our site to Wedge, and it depends on the compatibility question to my fixes and what I want it to accomplish, but I will test it out privately before doing anything.
But this is the site: http://www.fenimo.com
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3 - How much daily time you think you can devote to testing Wedge. (If you're planning to use it on a live forum, you can also rely on your users to help test it.) Please keep in mind that we'd like to keep the private alpha period relatively short (no more than a couple of weeks would be ideal), so I'm really asking about the next couple of weeks mainly. (Well, at least the first couple of weeks after the initial release.)
It all depends on my work/social life and the boss. (a.k.a. GF).
But I would probably be able to squeeze about 1h a week into testing things out.
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4 - Is there a feature in Wedge that you're most interested in? Something you'll focus your testing on, etc... Or just something you're just excited to use!
Well, the most important functions for me would be the forum itself, as we use it alot for communication for our guild. But also the Calendar function depending on how it would function.
As we today have SMF for the forum, WoW Raid Manager for scheduling raids. And all heck of different self coded things to fetch the data that I think is needed here and there.
And then TinyPortal to get some sort of site instead of only having the forum itself.

So perhaps the best answer is, Everything? :D
Title: Re: Looking for volunteers to test the Wedge private alpha!
Post by: ahrasis on December 13th, 2012, 04:29 PM
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1 - How long have you been a SMF user? (Approximately...)
About 6 years
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2 - If you're planning to use Wedge on a live forum, post its URL.
Personally, if everything is good, on ahrasis.com. I have been thinking to move away from SMF for quite sometimes now. This however is not for testing. Only if everything is good.
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3 - How much daily time you think you can devote to testing Wedge. (If you're planning to use it on a live forum, you can also rely on your users to help test it.) Please keep in mind that we'd like to keep the private alpha period relatively short (no more than a couple of weeks would be ideal), so I'm really asking about the next couple of weeks mainly. (Well, at least the first couple of weeks after the initial release.)
If I am testing, I will test it here: http://anypost.qom.my because everybody can post there (at least I am trying to make it that way). But can I simply upgrade it from current SMF or I have to make a new install?
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4 - Is there a feature in Wedge that you're most interested in? Something you'll focus your testing on, etc... Or just something you're just excited to use!
The thoughts and tagging, if any. I would like to test theming a wedge. Hah ha...
Title: Re: Looking for volunteers to test the Wedge private alpha!
Post by: Arantor on December 13th, 2012, 08:17 PM
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I know I'm not an active user on the forums here but thats cause what time I have I try to spend on my work and social life instead.
Gotta say that's generally going to count against you here, being active in what's gone on thus far is something of a pre-requisite.
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But also the Calendar function depending on how it would function.
The calendar that currently doesn't work in almost any fashion.
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WoW Raid Manager for scheduling raids
Which doesn't exist for Wedge and won't until someone writes it - and that won't be me. I have enough plugins to write as it is.
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And all heck of different self coded things to fetch the data that I think is needed here and there.
Most of which will need to be redesigned from, not 'just' rewritten.
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And then TinyPortal to get some sort of site instead of only having the forum itself.
Another mod which won't be ported to Wedge.
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So perhaps the best answer is, Everything?
Everything except all the functions you've pointed out that you actually want, you mean...


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But can I simply upgrade it from current SMF or I have to make a new install?
As we have said several times we are not releasing the converter at this time.
Title: Re: Looking for volunteers to test the Wedge private alpha!
Post by: ahrasis on December 13th, 2012, 10:50 PM
Quote from Arantor on December 13th, 2012, 08:17 PM
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But can I simply upgrade it from current SMF or I have to make a new install?
As we have said several times we are not releasing the converter at this time.
Ok. Noted.
Title: Re: Looking for volunteers to test the Wedge private alpha!
Post by: Cloggedone on December 14th, 2012, 04:47 PM
1 - How long have you been a SMF user? (Approximately...) Since about 2008 or so.

2 - http://forums.simplewarelinux.org - It's not live yet because I have yet to set up Nginx for that. Yeah, this is a new site.

3 - However much time is needed. Honestly, Simpleware Linux will be a small community and I could ask the fellow developers/users of the distro to report any glitches. Of course I'd report any glitches I find myself too ;).

4 - I'm interested in the fact that it's new and a SMF port. I love testing software before it's initial release, so do I love SMF! Any bugs I find I'd be willing to report to the Wedge team ASAP.

5 - I'm a 17 year old guy, uhh, I'm not a hot lady. LOL.

Here's some additional info, if that'll please the Wedge dev team:
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Simpleware Linux has been an on and off project by Shane Elmore. It is a free GNU/Linux distribution based off the secure Arch Linux platform. Simpleware is just like any other distribution: aimed at being easy to use while installing all the nessecary software, however, we aim to be at least 110% better than those competitor distributions. While we aim at including just free software (as code), however, non-free software can be added via external links. This product also aims at being incredibly simple to run on any computer: no over-clunky GUIs, etc. That is our promise, in current and future versions. Give us a try sometime!
And by this post, there MAY be a forum up, just to show that Simpleware is an active team.
Title: Re: Looking for volunteers to test the Wedge private alpha!
Post by: Arantor on December 14th, 2012, 04:56 PM
And you'd be quite happy running a public forum that has no working ban facilities at this time?
Title: Re: Looking for volunteers to test the Wedge private alpha!
Post by: Cloggedone on December 14th, 2012, 04:59 PM
Quote from Arantor on December 14th, 2012, 04:56 PM
And you'd be quite happy running a public forum that has no working ban facilities at this time?
Sure. Honestly, Simpleware Linux isn't very public at this time. It'll mostly be me and fellow developers/beta testers, I know them pretty well, and if they do mess up I can give out an iptables ban for the time being ;).
Title: Re: Looking for volunteers to test the Wedge private alpha!
Post by: Arantor on December 23rd, 2012, 05:27 AM
/meis fairly certain that new beta testers haven't made the cut at this point.
As said before, people who have joined pretty much just to ask if they can participate aren't really the people we're interested in. They're a certain kind of people, a group of people who have historically been observed to ask and get but not contribute anything meaningful - and why should they? They've got their shiny.

I'll say this again: if you want to help, demonstrate a willingness to do so. Asking for beta tester access isn't the way to help us - because if you can't be bothered to contribute to conversations much, you probably aren't going to contribute much in the way of testing. As it stands, the trend is holding up this time as well.

If you do want to help and are prepared to spend some time, read the discussions that have gone on. Add your thoughts - and don't just add '+1' or 'Great idea' comments. Tell us why you think they're great ideas. Or why they're not. There are people around here who think Nao and I can't do any wrong. Those people either don't know us well enough or don't watch what's going on - we make mistakes, errors of judgement and so on. The trick is that we recover and figure out what the best path is.

I guess what I'm getting at is that we don't need people much who are interested in the destination. We need people more who are interested in the journey as well, who are interested in looking at what we're suggesting, and being prepared to say it's wrong if it's wrong. We may not agree to start with, but at least if you're willing to tell us something's wrong, we might be able to fix it. And that begins BEFORE releases. That happens during development.

Participating in our discussions is at least as important as any amount of beta testing, and in the long run possibly more so.
Title: Re: Looking for volunteers to test the Wedge private alpha!
Post by: live627 on December 23rd, 2012, 06:40 AM
Honestly, that should be required of beta testers in any project. Some prefer the quality assurance team. But whatever the name, your input should be seen throughout, as in, if you said 10 hours a week, that's more than enough time to participate in the occasional discussion. This is the very  reason you were required to specify roughly how much time you''d have available. Logging in every day isn't required, but we do ask that you show some life and make a post or two every week.

As a developer in a project some years ago, the lead dev, even, I can say that we hate it when our beloved assistants (yes, that includes you, our valued beta testers) don't live up to promises made during the application process.

Christmas is nigh, so many of you are probably on holiday visiting family and friends. But please report back once in a while.

What would a employer do if his employees went MIA(https://www.google.com/#hl=en&tbo=d&q=what+does+mia+mean&revid=109858933&sa=X&ei=9JbWULX_EMf-2QXQ94CgDQ&ved=0CKQBENUCKAE&bav=on.2,or.r_gc.r_pw.r_cp.r_qf.&bvm=bv.1355534169,d.b2I&fp=89c8db76974e7f67&bpcl=40096503&biw=1353&bih=813)? ... fire 'em. What would an army commander do if a soldier went missing? ... dismiss him, yep.
Title: Re: Looking for volunteers to test the Wedge private alpha!
Post by: Norodo on December 23rd, 2012, 09:02 PM
I'm still around although I haven't been able to really contribute anything constructive in a while. I'm finally done with exams, so you can probably expect my "tutorial" on SSI.php soonish. I do feel somewhat guilty of inactivity I suppose, but I just haven't had anything to contribute lately.
Title: Re: Looking for volunteers to test the Wedge private alpha!
Post by: Oracle on December 25th, 2012, 02:39 AM
I'm doing as much as I can by reading all these posts - If I can contribute in any way I will.
Title: Re: Looking for volunteers to test the Wedge private alpha!
Post by: Nao on January 5th, 2013, 04:34 PM
Quote from Zootalaws on October 26th, 2012, 01:32 PM
3/ Idly retired ;) I have lots of time to indulge myself.
Lots of time, so little feedback -- removing alpha tester badge.
Posted: January 5th, 2013, 04:27 PM
Quote from verm on October 27th, 2012, 06:19 AM
No harm in trying...
User never even came back after that post... Removing badge.
Posted: January 5th, 2013, 04:29 PM
Quote from Mc Fly on December 3rd, 2012, 01:27 PM
One or two houres in the evening. Unfortunately I am not a Privateer and must do some work... :eheheh:
No feedback, no badge.
Title: Re: Looking for volunteers to test the Wedge private alpha!
Post by: Dismal Shadow on January 8th, 2013, 05:57 AM
Quote from Arantor on December 23rd, 2012, 05:27 AM
/meis fairly certain that new beta testers haven't made the cut at this point.

As said before, people who have joined pretty much just to ask if they can participate aren't really the people we're interested in. They're a certain kind of people, a group of people who have historically been observed to ask and get but not contribute anything meaningful - and why should they? They've got their shiny.

I'll say this again: if you want to help, demonstrate a willingness to do so. Asking for beta tester access isn't the way to help us - because if you can't be bothered to contribute to conversations much, you probably aren't going to contribute much in the way of testing. As it stands, the trend is holding up this time as well.

If you do want to help and are prepared to spend some time, read the discussions that have gone on. Add your thoughts - and don't just add '+1' or 'Great idea' comments. Tell us why you think they're great ideas. Or why they're not. There are people around here who think Nao and I can't do any wrong. Those people either don't know us well enough or don't watch what's going on - we make mistakes, errors of judgement and so on. The trick is that we recover and figure out what the best path is.

I guess what I'm getting at is that we don't need people much who are interested in the destination. We need people more who are interested in the journey as well, who are interested in looking at what we're suggesting, and being prepared to say it's wrong if it's wrong. We may not agree to start with, but at least if you're willing to tell us something's wrong, we might be able to fix it. And that begins BEFORE releases. That happens during development.

Participating in our discussions is at least as important as any amount of beta testing, and in the long run possibly more so.
/melikes this post, he really does.
Title: Re: Looking for volunteers to test the Wedge private alpha!
Post by: Maxx on January 13th, 2013, 03:53 PM
I am new here but not to SMF and portals and themes, been with Smf test from version 1.1.1 till now and have my off line or localhost ( PC) to test and will only test on live site if asked to do so, have look in and out on the project for a while now, but just join, because of the help and guidance I have gotten from Arantor on the SMF alpha testing... I have much to learn, but of course this is all up to you! Mostly into Theme customizing, but with this comes allot of system testing as you all know!

regards,
Maxx
Title: Re: Looking for volunteers to test the Wedge private alpha!
Post by: Mari-chi on January 14th, 2013, 07:19 PM
OMG I found this thread again. *dies* I was contemplating searching through the "Thoughts" place to get the link that Nao gave me again, but there were way too many. Maybe there should be a way to search "Thoughts"? Anyway. XD

Edit: Wait, is this even the thread that I was linked to? I don't even know anymore.

1 - Umm... I think about 1.5 years? 2? I don't use SMF except on a test site now, though.

2 - I'd like to install it on a test forum! I'll probably make the URL http://wedge.harrypotter-rpg.com.

3 - Mm... I've no clue. I'd like to snoop around and fangirl over it, and discover features that I'm not up to date on. But I'll probably be a very useless and deadbeat tester.

4 - Drafts! And Likes! And Theming! And the admin panel! I want to see if it's a lot different from SMF's.

5 - http://i50.tinypic.com/9h3yxe.png I hope you'll accept this photo. >: D
Title: Re: Looking for volunteers to test the Wedge private alpha!
Post by: Nao on January 14th, 2013, 11:37 PM
I'm hoping to release a new alpha later this month. We should skip distributing the older alphas ;)

And 5 isn't acceptable :niark:
Title: Re: Looking for volunteers to test the Wedge private alpha!
Post by: Mari-chi on January 15th, 2013, 05:42 AM
Yaaaay. I can't wait! <3

And just so you know, I put a LOT of effort into that picture. >:I A whole 10 seconds of my life.
Title: Re: Looking for volunteers to test the Wedge private alpha!
Post by: Maxx on January 15th, 2013, 04:07 PM
Nao'
Thanks for the reply and update on the status... your deciding and  call, that would be the best!

regards,
Maxx
Title: Re: Looking for volunteers to test the Wedge private alpha!
Post by: The Burglar! on January 16th, 2013, 05:34 PM
1 - How long have you been a SMF user? (Approximately...)

Working on SMF since the first public beta (10 years ago), before that i was working on the yabbse project ;)

2 - If you're planning to use Wedge on a live forum, post its URL.

somewhere on the domain simpelmachines.nl/whatevername :P

3 - How much daily time you think you can devote to testing Wedge. (If you're planning to use it on a live forum, you can also rely on your users to help test it.) Please keep in mind that we'd like to keep the private alpha period relatively short (no more than a couple of weeks would be ideal), so I'm really asking about the next couple of weeks mainly. (Well, at least the first couple of weeks after the initial release.)

2 hours a day, have much other work

4 - Is there a feature in Wedge that you're most interested in? Something you'll focus your testing on, etc... Or just something you're just excited to use!

nah just wanna play around and see the things for myself

Title: Re: Looking for volunteers to test the Wedge private alpha!
Post by: Arantor on January 16th, 2013, 05:35 PM
/mewould remind the people asking now that there are some major gaps in functionality, especially with respect to banning at the present time.
And to go back and perhaps read some of the other recent posts in this thread.
Title: Re: Looking for volunteers to test the Wedge private alpha!
Post by: The Burglar! on January 16th, 2013, 05:42 PM
 Yups i have read that :)

/meI dont mind the gaps it may on a live site but no members will have access to it, just for a testing procedure
Title: Re: Looking for volunteers to test the Wedge private alpha!
Post by: tumbleweed on January 17th, 2013, 07:32 PM
1 - How long have you been a SMF user? (Approximately...)
My first post at SMF
SMF 1.x Support / Unable to access Features and Options
« on: September 08, 2006, 07:28:24 PM »

2 - If you're planning to use Wedge on a live forum, post its URL.
will update...

3 - How much daily time you think you can devote to testing Wedge. (If you're planning to use it on a live forum, you can also rely on your users to help test it.) Please keep in mind that we'd like to keep the private alpha period relatively short (no more than a couple of weeks would be ideal), so I'm really asking about the next couple of weeks mainly. (Well, at least the first couple of weeks after the initial release.)
Internal testing with current SMF website owners.

4 - Is there a feature in Wedge that you're most interested in? Something you'll focus your testing on, etc... Or just something you're just excited to use!
Wedge in general

Title: Re: Looking for volunteers to test the Wedge private alpha!
Post by: dwc on January 17th, 2013, 08:58 PM
I know this thread is in regards to alpha testing, and I apologize if I'm getting ahead of myself, but I'd like to throw my hat in for beta testing when it comes around.  I can test it as a user, and if at some point given read access, I can pour through code during my spare time to get up to speed on the architecture, and complain about stuff that doesn't look right, or to help with documentation.  I'm very busy with my projects, but I am very interested in this project, and have faith in Arantor and Nao to deliver, so I'm willing to try and get involved more -- at least in reading posts and commenting.

1 - How long have you been a SMF user?
Since 2010.

2 - If you're planning to use Wedge on a live forum, post its URL.
http://conservativepoliticalforum.com

3 - How much daily time you think you can devote to testing Wedge.
1-5 hours per week.

4 - Is there a feature in Wedge that you're most interested in? Something you'll focus your testing on, etc... Or just something you're just excited to use!
So far, it looks like the current alpha features would suffice.

5 - If you're a hot young lady, post a picture of you, preferably on a boat (in front of a boat is also acceptable), or in an administration building's waiting line.
Hot chicks in IT are like Bigfoot -- I'm not saying they don't exist, I've just never seen one.
Title: Re: Looking for volunteers to test the Wedge private alpha!
Post by: Raifal on January 18th, 2013, 01:44 AM
Quote from Nao on October 22nd, 2012, 05:27 PM
1 - How long have you been a SMF user?
As an administrator, never, as a member probably a few years on an irregular basis. I did read the first post but given my high level of interest in Wedge - I figured it could be useful to have a fresh pair of eyes on the software without a bunch of pre-conceived notions of how SMF worked/works.

In addition, I used to be quite heavy into the development side of forums a long time ago (I don't know how long you guys go back?) and whilst I got out of that game an equally long time ago due to a mixture of politics and changes, my rusty eyes will have no problem examining the innards without being rebuffed. I'm also well versed in the general things you note in your post so there's no worry with regards to messing with phpmyadmin and the like,
Quote from Nao on October 22nd, 2012, 05:27 PM
2 - If you're planning to use Wedge on a live forum, post its URL.
I have run (past & present) successful, high traffic, high usercount community sites, my intention is to have Wedge running as the forum of an upcoming project based on the same methodology and expect it to do as well if not exceed my current offerings. Since the heavy lifting for the site itself will be done by another set of software, my intention is to populate the Wedge Alpha with trusted, motivated team and community members from the current sites and use it to communicate, order work and use the featureset whilst we lay the groundwork before launching the site to the public.

My apologies for being so ambiguous but the new site has yet to be announced and I'd prefer to keep it on the low for the time being, I'd be happy to share my current and future projects with either the developers or the (presumably) small group of testers you currently have if you saw fit to include me.
Quote from Nao on October 22nd, 2012, 05:27 PM
3 - How much daily time you think you can devote to testing Wedge.
As I said before, Wedge will at the very least be used to co-ordinate something that I will be essentially entirely devoting myself to for a long time to come. As such it will be used by myself and the others I described throughout the day on a daily basis for the foreseeable future, so I suppose the answer to  your question is: a lot and in a lot of ways.

I recognise that Wedge is not ready for primetime or a production site, but the timing is perfect for what I need it for at present. I see no reason why it couldn't run in tandem with the site even post-launch for staffers and select members, which is something I'd personally like to do in order to stay alongside and assist in the development of Wedge going forward.

Either way, it will continue to be tested by myself privately regardless.
Quote from Nao on October 22nd, 2012, 05:27 PM
4 - Is there a feature in Wedge that you're most interested in?
I'm frankly tired of the "premium" software I've been using blindly for a decade and I'm ready for something different. Believe me when I say that I did a lot of research to familiarise myself with the current state of play in your world before I began lurking (and then registering) here. I looked at a lot of software before making this reply.

I can't really vocalise anything specific but I'm quite excited by what I've seen so far and I'm very eager to dive in. I find the potential business model Arantor mentioned on another site interesting and possibly revolutionary when paired with your plugin system, however this has less to do with the software itself. I believe my intentioned use for the Alpha will allow me to see all aspects of your baby and as a result produce actionable feedback from me to you.
Quote from Nao on October 22nd, 2012, 05:27 PM
5 - If you're a hot young lady, post a picture of you, preferably on a boat.
My lady has what I'm assured are known as "da mad hook-ups" with some very popular rock/metal bands, think of the connections and photo ops associated with that!

I understand that the current Alpha up for download is older and less functional but I'd love to get my hands on it anyway to get a grasp of things before the new one later in the month, hopefully you can see my unbridled desire to get in on the ground floor here and give me the badge so that I can get started and get involved.
Title: Re: Looking for volunteers to test the Wedge private alpha!
Post by: Arantor on January 18th, 2013, 06:13 AM
I would also remind everyone of what I said in http://wedge.org/pub/7623/looking-for-volunteers-to-test-the-wedge-private-alpha/msg284142/#msg284142

Ignore any $2 mentions for now, that's a known bug.
Title: Re: Looking for volunteers to test the Wedge private alpha!
Post by: dwc on January 18th, 2013, 07:37 AM
Quote from Arantor on January 18th, 2013, 06:13 AM
I would also remind everyone of what I said in http://wedge.org/pub/7623/looking-for-volunteers-to-test-the-wedge-private-alpha/msg284142/#msg284142

Ignore any $2 mentions for now, that's a known bug.
Sorry.  I missed that.
Title: Re: Looking for volunteers to test the Wedge private alpha!
Post by: Raifal on January 19th, 2013, 12:26 AM
Quote from Arantor on January 18th, 2013, 06:13 AM
I would also remind everyone of what I said in http://wedge.org/pub/7623/looking-for-volunteers-to-test-the-wedge-private-alpha/msg284142/#msg284142

Ignore any $2 mentions for now, that's a known bug.
You're right of course, but I laid myself pretty bare in my post - I'm not really sure how extra participation on the forum will change your mind about me if you've already deemed my application uninspiring.

If I felt that I could contribute in a meaningful way without having access to the alpha then I'd agree, but anyone can spend time replying to every thread to try to gain your trust, I'd prefer to have the ability to provide some meat to those replies and that will be infinitely more useful to the both of us.
Title: Re: Looking for volunteers to test the Wedge private alpha!
Post by: Arantor on January 19th, 2013, 12:32 AM
I haven't even really looking at the applications thus far, if I'm honest. I just saw that a bunch of people had posted, I just reiterated what I'd already said.

The last few days I've been wrangling with a lot of stuff, some of which has been laid bare >_<

But a lot of what I've said still stands - I would personally rather have people who contribute along the way and demonstrate a commitment to contribute rather than who request access to test it as it was at a fixed milestone; if you're just interested in seeing the software... we run it right here. There's little that an alpha could show you that you can't see here, because pretty much every new feature that's in Wedge and not in SMF is visible here, either from screenshots or it's user facing.

If you're seeing it as 'just replying to every thread', you've missed the point somewhat, I feel. It's not about gaining trust, it's demonstrating some commitment to actually contribute meaningful feedback - as you may or may not have noticed, already several people who got access didn't bother to reply much, not even to say 'hey, still here just busy'.

I deliberately go out and ask for feedback as new things get added, to gauge what users want and how beneficial it will be to them.
Title: Re: Looking for volunteers to test the Wedge private alpha!
Post by: Raifal on January 19th, 2013, 12:41 AM
Quote from Arantor on January 19th, 2013, 12:32 AM
I haven't even really looking at the applications thus far, if I'm honest. I just saw that a bunch of people had posted, I just reiterated what I'd already said.

The last few days I've been wrangling with a lot of stuff, some of which has been laid bare >_<

But a lot of what I've said still stands - I would personally rather have people who contribute along the way and demonstrate a commitment to contribute rather than who request access to test it as it was at a fixed milestone; if you're just interested in seeing the software... we run it right here. There's little that an alpha could show you that you can't see here, because pretty much every new feature that's in Wedge and not in SMF is visible here, either from screenshots or it's user facing.

If you're seeing it as 'just replying to every thread', you've missed the point somewhat, I feel. It's not about gaining trust, it's demonstrating some commitment to actually contribute meaningful feedback - as you may or may not have noticed, already several people who got access didn't bother to reply much, not even to say 'hey, still here just busy'.

I deliberately go out and ask for feedback as new things get added, to gauge what users want and how beneficial it will be to them.
I guess I've just been behind the scenes on forum alphas/betas and saw them through to release too many times to understand purposeful denial of access to a likeminded individual. Apologies for my abrasiveness, I realise that you can't possibly intimate such information from a new member's posts.

It's your baby so I have no rights and I (believe me) understand the type of person you describe, but I hope you can empathise that as someone who knows he is not one of those people; the frustration of throwing my name into a hat and hoping to be noticed via posting a lot. I'm sure that comes across as inappropriately forceful from the lips of a new entry but I'm nothing if not honest and forthright.

In my mind it's not a question of why I want access in order to provide feedback of a good standard, rather why not?
Title: Re: Looking for volunteers to test the Wedge private alpha!
Post by: Arantor on January 19th, 2013, 12:43 AM
Nah, there's nothing inappropriately forceful there at all. I can understand where you're coming from. It doesn't help that I find myself feeling *very* protective of Wedge at present for reasons that I'm sure are fairly clear, it's stuff I shouldn't have to be doing, and I don't have to do it, but if I don't, I don't see who else is... >_<
Title: Re: Looking for volunteers to test the Wedge private alpha!
Post by: Powerbob on January 27th, 2013, 11:30 PM
Hi guys,

I would like access to the latest Alpha just uploaded by Nao, to continue my testing :D

Cheers
Bob
Title: Re: Looking for volunteers to test the Wedge private alpha!
Post by: Arantor on January 28th, 2013, 12:22 AM
What latest alpha?
Title: Re: Looking for volunteers to test the Wedge private alpha!
Post by: Dismal Shadow on January 28th, 2013, 02:34 AM
Quote from Powerbob on January 27th, 2013, 11:30 PM
Hi guys,

I would like access to the latest Alpha just uploaded by Nao, to continue my testing :D

Cheers
Bob
The latest is still Alpha 2.
Title: Re: Looking for volunteers to test the Wedge private alpha!
Post by: live627 on January 28th, 2013, 02:44 AM
In addition, you will see it when it comes out, but you probably already knew that.
Title: Re: Looking for volunteers to test the Wedge private alpha!
Post by: Arantor on January 28th, 2013, 03:11 AM
You know what I think happened?

I think he saw http://wedge.org/blog/7632/it-only-took-two-guys-two-years/msg285454/#new and saw the post from November at the top and thought it was a new build coming out.
Title: Re: Looking for volunteers to test the Wedge private alpha!
Post by: Powerbob on January 28th, 2013, 07:43 AM
Yes you are right, idiot me duh :whistle:

my only excuse, struck down with a heavy dose of the flu :sob:
Title: Re: Looking for volunteers to test the Wedge private alpha!
Post by: Zootalaws on February 20th, 2013, 02:17 AM
Quote from Nao on January 5th, 2013, 04:34 PM
Quote from Zootalaws on October 26th, 2012, 01:32 PM
3/ Idly retired ;) I have lots of time to indulge myself.
Lots of time, so little feedback -- removing alpha tester badge.
No access to alpha code (as per my post) means nothing to test... nothing to test results in revocation of tester status... you see where the problem started?
Title: Re: Looking for volunteers to test the Wedge private alpha!
Post by: Arantor on February 20th, 2013, 02:18 AM
Except that it was fixed later that day, or no later than the next day which means it was back in November when betas were available to people to try.
Title: Re: Looking for volunteers to test the Wedge private alpha!
Post by: Zootalaws on February 20th, 2013, 02:22 AM
I checked for days - couldn't see it.

That's fine... I'm pretty done with this for now.
Title: Re: Looking for volunteers to test the Wedge private alpha!
Post by: Arantor on February 20th, 2013, 02:23 AM
So why didn't you say something in the meantime?
Title: Re: Looking for volunteers to test the Wedge private alpha!
Post by: eolith on February 25th, 2013, 04:08 AM
I hope this isn't too late. My gaming community is switching from focus on a single game to more of a general gaming community, so I'm planning on changing our URL and would like to get Wedge started on the new URL to run in parallel with my SMF forum until such time as it's good enough to go live for my small community. I know I haven't posted a lot, but I've been watching since 2011.

1 - Since May, 2009

2 - Currently, my forum is www.exile-tor.com/forum - I've modified the theme myself, do all the admin myself.

3 - Daily will be variable for me personally, but I can put something like 5 hours weekly of my own time (wife overseas, kids, working), but I have 20+ members on weekly, if not daily, and most of them would be willing to help test a new system.

4 - I'd really like to see importing of SMF data, but I figure that's not likely to be an existing issue. Next, being able to theme my forum to my (and my users' tastes) is pretty important to me. I've extensively modified my SFM forum theme personally. I'd also like to test a donation system, because I cover all the costs for my gaming community (mumble, hosting, etc). If there are any gaming related features (integration with a mumble server, tracking games played, characters in each game, etc) I'll definitely put those to work.

5 - I wish I had a fez. I'd wear it to work on my birthday. Now that's an excellent idea, actually... I'll have to get a Tardis on my desk, too...

Other stuff that might be relevant: I am a Business Analyst, just moved from PNC to HP, I've worked quite a bit with SQL in a development environment (not as a developer so much as requirements gathering and testing, so not an SQL expert). So I'm comfortable with SQL and have used PHPAdmin and MySQL directly on my forums to create some other database tools like tracking crafting and characters for the game my community was focused on.
Title: Re: Looking for volunteers to test the Wedge private alpha!
Post by: Allan on February 27th, 2013, 03:17 PM
1 - How long have you been a SMF user? (Approximately...)
Off and on fo since 2006

2 - If you're planning to use Wedge on a live forum, post its URL.
Nope test forum for now
I could put this on a theme site I was thinking about creating, would be live but a new site.

3 - How much daily time you think you can devote to testing Wedge. (If you're planning to use it on a live forum, you can also rely on your users to help test it.) Please keep in mind that we'd like to keep the private alpha period relatively short (no more than a couple of weeks would be ideal), so I'm really asking about the next couple of weeks mainly. (Well, at least the first couple of weeks after the initial release.)
Some days only an hour others days a couple of hours


4 - Is there a feature in Wedge that you're most interested in? Something you'll focus your testing on, etc... Or just something you're just excited to use!
I like making theme and wanted to test that also I would like to use the system as a whole.

5 - If you're a hot young lady, post a picture of you, preferably on a boat (in front of a boat is also acceptable), or in an administration building's waiting line. Extra points if you're wearing a Fez on your left hand. Fezzes are cool.

Never heard of a Fez :hmm:
Title: Re: Looking for volunteers to test the Wedge private alpha!
Post by: txcas on March 22nd, 2013, 04:06 AM
1 - How long have you been a SMF user? (Approximately...)
Since February 2010.

2 - If you're planning to use Wedge on a live forum, post its URL.
http://www.dfwshoots.com - Will create a sandbox forum first, if everything works fine we will go live.

3 - How much daily time you think you can devote to testing Wedge. (If you're planning to use it on a live forum, you can also rely on your users to help test it.) Please keep in mind that we'd like to keep the private alpha period relatively short (no more than a couple of weeks would be ideal), so I'm really asking about the next couple of weeks mainly. (Well, at least the first couple of weeks after the initial release.) 
1 hour a day in the sandbox, but will go live ASAP with about 1,000 users.

4 - Is there a feature in Wedge that you're most interested in? Something you'll focus your testing on, etc... Or just something you're just excited to use!
SPAM protection.
Title: Re: Looking for volunteers to test the Wedge private alpha!
Post by: WasdMan on March 26th, 2013, 08:21 PM
Hi everyone.

Candidates will also be tested on. Although I'm not a girl, just a guy forties.

Semi-professional since 2009 to deal with the SMF-out. Fordítgatok packages, and some have even made ​​myself.

Forum: www.smf-portal.hu available. This is a Hungarian community. My name is Lajos Norbert there.

2-3 hours a day to deal with the topic, and if possible the Wedge system could be this much.
Title: Re: Looking for volunteers to test the Wedge private alpha!
Post by: LG965 on March 26th, 2013, 10:41 PM
Hi everyone

1- since 2005
2- http://www.tuttovola.org and http://ultrapack.il2war.com (but first in a online sandbox)
3- 0/2 hours/day
4- a little of everything

;)
Title: Re: Looking for volunteers to test the Wedge private alpha!
Post by: Arantor on March 26th, 2013, 10:45 PM
Quote from Arantor on December 23rd, 2012, 05:27 AM
As said before, people who have joined pretty much just to ask if they can participate aren't really the people we're interested in. They're a certain kind of people, a group of people who have historically been observed to ask and get but not contribute anything meaningful - and why should they? They've got their shiny.

I'll say this again: if you want to help, demonstrate a willingness to do so. Asking for beta tester access isn't the way to help us - because if you can't be bothered to contribute to conversations much, you probably aren't going to contribute much in the way of testing. As it stands, the trend is holding up this time as well.

If you do want to help and are prepared to spend some time, read the discussions that have gone on. Add your thoughts - and don't just add '+1' or 'Great idea' comments. Tell us why you think they're great ideas. Or why they're not. There are people around here who think Nao and I can't do any wrong. Those people either don't know us well enough or don't watch what's going on - we make mistakes, errors of judgement and so on. The trick is that we recover and figure out what the best path is.

I guess what I'm getting at is that we don't need people much who are interested in the destination. We need people more who are interested in the journey as well, who are interested in looking at what we're suggesting, and being prepared to say it's wrong if it's wrong. We may not agree to start with, but at least if you're willing to tell us something's wrong, we might be able to fix it. And that begins BEFORE releases. That happens during development.

Participating in our discussions is at least as important as any amount of beta testing, and in the long run possibly more so.
/menotes little has changed in 3 months...
Title: Re: Looking for volunteers to test the Wedge private alpha!
Post by: Maxx on March 26th, 2013, 11:56 PM
I got that from the other times you explained this and I myself am not looking for it, now however would like to see it when avail, no rush for me, and You two Guys are doing Quite a task here and it seems to me it moving right along! I just wish I could be of help, but possibly I can spark a thought or two, hopefully anyway!

I like to see this going forward and not stuck like other things seem LOL ( not here) and this a good thing!

regards,
Maxx
Title: Re: Looking for volunteers to test the Wedge private alpha!
Post by: LG965 on March 27th, 2013, 04:04 PM
I fully share your thoughts, arantor, my problem is the English language, and for that I'm always afraid of not being understood, then do not write a lot. Now I'm using google translator.
In any case, when you feel is appropriate, I will be ready for testing.
Regards
Luigi
Title: Re: Looking for volunteers to test the Wedge private alpha!
Post by: ziycon on May 5th, 2013, 01:15 AM
Any point in requesting access to an alpha version at this stage to try break it!?
Title: Re: Looking for volunteers to test the Wedge private alpha!
Post by: Arantor on May 5th, 2013, 01:24 AM
Alpha 2 is massively out of date, and the scale of upcoming commits means it's a bit daft.

(That's something else: pretty much everyone lately who's read the rules didn't bother to notice the state of play or comment on most of the things going on. Your bug reports, though, actually do apply to trunk because this site runs trunk anyway.)
Title: Re: Looking for volunteers to test the Wedge private alpha!
Post by: ziycon on May 5th, 2013, 01:30 AM
Grand so, I'll keep trying to break wedge.org :)
Title: Re: Looking for volunteers to test the Wedge private alpha!
Post by: samozin on May 16th, 2013, 04:03 PM
1/  using SMF since  2007.
2/ Local development setup.
3/ rtl languages supporter.
4/ Plugins and other new development related stuff.
5/ love to integrate smf with drupal wikimedia wordpress joomla  avarcade osclassified and other scripts (alread made bridges by other ppl).
6/have ideas about making cms fork from  smf  already made some codes  / and warez fork for ppl love to share stuffs like that one www.myegy.com
7/ have 3 different  domains on 2 different servers to test wedge on  it will work on salamoz.com  caffeh.com  mftech.com .
Title: Re: Looking for volunteers to test the Wedge private alpha!
Post by: Arantor on May 16th, 2013, 04:05 PM
-sigh-
Title: Re: Looking for volunteers to test the Wedge private alpha!
Post by: Arantor on May 18th, 2013, 03:12 AM
In case it's not clear to anyone why I sighed, let me explain. Again. For at least the fifth time.

Firstly, it is wise to actually answer the questions asked.

Secondly. People who come here and sign up with just a few posts aren't really what we're looking for. We can test Wedge ourselves quite happily, and someone who's only been here long enough to make a few posts probably isn't interested in testing it very heavily.

If you're interested in testing, you'll be hanging around, seeing what's going on, what we've done, what we're doing going forward and you'll be all enthusiastic and motivated to be a part of that. If you come here, make a few posts then request early access, I'm going to conclude you're only interested in getting some cool stuff and not actually help with anything useful.

I'm cynical, sure. I'm negative, sure. I've been bitten too many times with crap like this before now. Where people get all enthusiastic and tell me that they're all fired up to test something I'm making and when they get the keys to the kingdom, it's almost like they don't care any more because they got what *they* came for and don't give a damn about the poor folk who actually made the damn thing who wanted help in the first place.

The reality is that we don't need alpha testers. We need people who are interested in shaping Wedge. Testers imply they're interested only in testing something and finding bugs, but that's not really what we need right now. Further down the line, sure, when the key features are all in place and we're just shaking out the bugs but that's not where we are yet.


I'm actually tempted to lock this thread, to be honest.
Title: Re: Looking for volunteers to test the Wedge private alpha!
Post by: godboko71 on May 18th, 2013, 03:19 AM
Might as well I am sure you guys got a pretty good idea who you want testing and using your product pre release. Not like you can't add active people to that list when another alpha comes out at that time. Pretty easy to see who is interested in shaping wedge.
Title: Re: Looking for volunteers to test the Wedge private alpha!
Post by: Arantor on May 18th, 2013, 03:20 AM
Yup. In fact, the people that will likely be added to the list come the next round of alphas haven't really posted on this topic... funny that. I'm sure I have no idea why that might be.
Title: Re: Looking for volunteers to test the Wedge private alpha!
Post by: godboko71 on May 18th, 2013, 03:22 AM
Maybe they have some reading comprehension skill. Oh that is an idea have a reading comprehension test for all future testers :) oh wait you did that and they all failed :p
Title: Re: Looking for volunteers to test the Wedge private alpha!
Post by: Arantor on May 18th, 2013, 03:24 AM
It's almost like a self-selecting opt-out for access :niark:
Title: Re: Looking for volunteers to test the Wedge private alpha!
Post by: Anonchair on May 18th, 2013, 04:50 AM
Could always have a multiple choice test the potential testers have to answer and flag some answers as an automatic "no". Think of it as a filtering system. There's nothing wrong with a thread and a posting guideline, but if you're really thinking of locking the topic then that certainly shows it does bother you having to monitor and reply constantly. Would make life easier for you for a while. At least until an even better method comes up.

I'm interested though - if you want to test Wedge, and I mean really test it - give a copy to someone with a big board. (hilarity might also ensue)
Title: Re: Looking for volunteers to test the Wedge private alpha!
Post by: Norodo on May 18th, 2013, 10:01 AM
Quote from Anonchair on May 18th, 2013, 04:50 AM
Could always have a multiple choice test the potential testers have to answer and flag some answers as an automatic "no". Think of it as a filtering system. There's nothing wrong with a thread and a posting guideline, but if you're really thinking of locking the topic then that certainly shows it does bother you having to monitor and reply constantly. Would make life easier for you for a while. At least until an even better method comes up.

I'm interested though - if you want to test Wedge, and I mean really test it - give a copy to someone with a big board. (hilarity might also ensue)
I don't find it likely that someone with a big board will want to run unfinished software as production. But it could lead to some fun, indeed.
Title: Re: Looking for volunteers to test the Wedge private alpha!
Post by: Anonchair on May 18th, 2013, 10:58 AM
Quote from Norodo on May 18th, 2013, 10:01 AM
I don't find it likely that someone with a big board will want to run unfinished software as production. But it could lead to some fun, indeed.
There's a certain level of influence an administrator of a big board harnesses... The kind of influence where he/she could convince a generous handful of his/her members to use a specific piece of software for a certain amount of time... No one said it had to be used in production. ;)
Title: Re: Looking for volunteers to test the Wedge private alpha!
Post by: Wanchope on May 18th, 2013, 04:26 PM
I think I'm a beta tester myself, just happy to be testing the software from the user backend for now. I may apply to beta test as admin user in the next round. A lot has happened before I joined, just staying back, reading as I have a lot do for now.
I don't want to sound rude to anyone but I suggest this thread should be locked if it will be a distraction to the developers. #justsaying
Title: Re: Looking for volunteers to test the Wedge private alpha!
Post by: Maxx on May 19th, 2013, 02:39 AM
As I think was mentioned also it would be wise to have a local Off line server and MySQL setup for Alpha testing for several reasons. and if you know not why you maybe should not apply! :)

Maybe then Beta testing could be later on done, on private on-line testing site, or ever the Alpha approved by the Gentlemen in charge here... of course things thinks are up to them and, I'm sure they working all angles of testing!

regards,
Maxx