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- Bloc had read access to the SVN, but I'm not sure he ever tested it.

- His post on viennabbs basically says that he's giving up on ViennaBBS ('again?'), and focusing on SMF. His comment on Wedge is, I'm afraid, here to stay... It has to be said, though, that he made a similar post on blocweb and it's more acceptable/understandable.

(Hey Pete! 11k posts! Congrats!)

Frankly guys, who cares about his opinion anyway? If Bloc has given up on VBBS then great, one less competitor. I'm certainly not swayed by his boorish remarks and criticisms when he has probably about the same level of knowledge of the code as I do! He obviously doesn't have the stamina and enthusiasm to see a big project through.

I fail to see how this could in any way be great.

I don't care about his opinion anyway, but competitors are always good.

Sure, competition is good. But I don't really care about competition. I completely respect EosAlpha and SMF 2.1 developers, but I don't have any plans to look into them, or to let them influence Wedge. (Which is why I'm not installing them.)

Although I never expected much out of ViennaBBS... I always felt that it was basically "SMF, with a modern theme and a few ideas taken from the Wedge to-do list."

Bloc has a good knowledge of the SMF codebase overall -- don't forget that he's behind Core and Curve, among others... (I'm not sure about Babylon? He made Themis for sure, too. I always liked that theme back in the day... But I think my favorite overall is still Babylon.)

But, well, what you gonna do about that... Guess what, he closed the ViennaBBS website down. Again. So, one can't read that particular blog post anymore, lol. Now it's redirecting without warning to Blocweb, where he replaced his latest theme with Carbonate, which I find uninspired compared to his other recent works. I wouldn't even bother to mention that, but it really strikes me as odd that he'd replace a good-looking theme with an inferior one. (Seriously... Trebuchet MS all over the place?! It's so 2010, especially in that font size and weight...)

Oh, competition is always good, but the sad part is, this is exactly what I expected to happen - and it wouldn't have made any difference whether we'd commented on it or not here. You only have to go back over time to see what he's done to realise that he's as up/down as ever.

It's just a matter of how much you're willing to bet on the day ViennaBBS will come back (probably with a new theme, or name, or concept, or whatever). And whether or not it'll stay online for more than 2 months.

:lol: I'm not nearly stupid enough to take that bet.

I don't know about 2.1, development is going ok but it is just mainly a reworked 2.0.x IMHO. I wished it could of became more but it doesn't look like it.

I wished though curve could of been put to rest but it is just being reworked into a more efficient system. There is one person who shall be nameless that fought for curves survival in 2.1, not saying any names. :whistle:

I would also like to commit more but git is just a pain and maybe that is the reason I haven't put much input into it. I rather use a SVN repo than GIT.

If anyone wants to take repercussions of what I said then go ahead, I know this isn't the private boards, just saying I wished to have seen more out of 2.1.

Dunno who's a fan of Curve... Probably Norv?
Glad to see we're not the only ones who have problems with git, ah ah... We're just old geezers. Dragooon is still young, he can take it in easily.

As for privacy, we pretty much decided to post most of our stuff on public boards anyway. It's not like we have anything to hide...

:)   I like curve, actually. :P

2.1 was never intended to be ground breaking. It was intended to take 2.0 - do some needed enhancements, add some features which we liked and fix a few other things which were still buggy in 2.0.
2.1, 2.2 and 2.x in general are progress using the 2.0 codebase, no major re-works.   That's intended for the SMC/SMF3.0 combination.

As for Bloc and Vienna - as good as Bloc is, he seems to have something like A.D.D. - he doesn't seem to focus on any project for much longer than a few months at a time.

That's not A.D.D...

it is the developer's equivalent of...

Well, I'm well aware that creativity isn't an infinite resource and at times you have to step back and recharge your batteries. But his style isn't stepping back and recharging.

@Kindred,
My understanding was that there wasn't going to be a 2.2, that 2.1 was only a stop-gap before 3.0.

I have that. :niark: