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Bloc Madness
« on March 29th, 2012, 11:25 AM »Last edited on April 7th, 2012, 04:17 PM
Follow up to -- http://wedge.org/pub/6271/logo-madness/msg276613/#msg276613
(Splitting the topic because it evolved into a heated discussion with Bloc.)

Okay... Are you implying you're leaving for now, or leaving forever? I'm quite weary after all of the Bloc stories. (And you know how ridiculous it became after a while.)
*WHAT is it* with saying things like that every time someone challenges your thoughts?

Seriously. Get over it, guys. Pete is harsh, and I'm harsh. If we'd been "outta here" every time Pete or I refuted each other's arguments, I think that Wedge would have been abandoned 20 times over!

If I can't tell people what I think, then should I stop speaking at all??
This isn't what a "forum" is for. A forum is for talking. If you can't talk for fear of driving people into leaving, then you don't use the forum any longer.
If you think I'm too harsh, then say it clearly.

Anyway. Let me explain again, now that I'm on my PC... I settled for 'Consul-tant' even though it had more black letters than 'Wedge-ward'. It may not be obvious, but in my mind, the more black letters, the 'higher' the rank. I gave up on this concept to please you because you complained about the 'Co' thing and I couldn't find myself to go for Con or Cons. And 'Consu' could be seen as 'Consumate' or 'Consumer', which doesn't carry a nice meaning either way. So I went for 'Consul' which is basically an ambassador (for Wedge), and look at you -- getting pissed off because I'm asking you WHY it's STILL not good enough for you.

If you don't like your badge, I can remove it if you want. It's just a matter of putting your Consultant group as Additional instead of Primary group.
Re : Bloc Madness
« Reply #1, on March 29th, 2012, 11:31 AM »
Quote from PantsManUK on March 29th, 2012, 10:34 AM
Where's the "PLEASE, FOR THE LOVE OF GOD, JUST PICK ONE ALREADY" option in that poll? :eheh:
:lol:
Nah, seriously, the logo is chosen, it's the one you voted for BTW, although technically I'm free to use any variation on it as the environment requires (e.g. the plain logo doesn't "work" on a dark background, so I have variations for that.)
I even re-did the Facebook page with the new logo (and a cover based on the current banner here), you'll see that tomorrow because I won't switch the page to Timeline myself, they'll have to force me into that (which they'll do... tomorrow. Which is why I added the cover photo. Anyway.)
And then I was looking at the archives, and I thought to myself, oh the old big logo that was in the Wedge sidebar before the switch for so many weeks, it looks really great on the Facebook page... :lol: But well, yeah, I can't have everything, ah ah. The current logo is really the best I've done, after all this time.
Posted: March 29th, 2012, 11:29 AM
Quote from live627 on March 29th, 2012, 10:15 AM
Consult-ant. Does that emphasise a crook?
That does emphasize an ant, by the way... A tiny insect that I'm quick to crush when they're in my house :lol:

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Re : Bloc Madness
« Reply #2, on March 29th, 2012, 11:52 AM »
Fuss over a badge?!

OK, I can understand why Co/nsultant may not have been ideal, and moreso with con/sultant. But the word is a strange one, there is really no great place to break it up aesthetically and not have some derivable meaning that's not so harsh.

Consult-ant does not imply a crook at all. I have been a consultant in my time and it can pay handsomely - provided that you know your stuff and act with integrity. Like everything else, there are shady consultants and strongly ethical consultants. But it does, as Nao, states, imply 'ant'.

And of course I am haunted by Dogbert's explanation of how the work 'consult' came about. "I like to con people, and I like to insult people, what if I combine them?"

Perhaps the problem isn't the two-tone aspect but the fact that the word is wrong. Would contrib/utor be a better compromise?
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Re : Bloc Madness
« Reply #3, on March 29th, 2012, 12:48 PM »
It's not only that "con" implies "crook", it's mostly that in French, it directly means "jerk". It's the French word for jerk. I think it has the same roots as 'c*nt' in English. (I'm being nice with the censoring because we're in a public area :P)

What is Dogbert? A spin-off of Dilbert? :P

I like the word Consultant. My girlfriend is a consultant. The 'consulting developer' position was created just for me at SM.org... I like the word, I'd use it for myself if I wasn't 50% of the boss entity :lol:
And I think that if John hadn't liked it a year and a half ago, he would have said it, wouldn't he...?
Re : Bloc Madness
« Reply #4, on March 29th, 2012, 12:55 PM »
Quote from Nao on March 29th, 2012, 11:25 AM
Okay... Are you implying you're leaving for now, or leaving forever? I'm quite weary after all of the Bloc stories. (And you know how ridiculous it became after a while.)
I am still here you know, and its not because of your dazzling personality lol - but for the interest in how Wedge will turn out. I am not sure I would describe the way things went regarding myself as "ridiculous", but in the big scope of things it really don't matter.
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*WHAT is it* with saying things like that every time someone challenges your thoughts?

Seriously. Get over it, guys. Pete is harsh, and I'm harsh. If we'd been "outta here" every time Pete or I refuted each other's arguments, I think that Wedge would have been abandoned 20 times over!
No doubt, you are what you are. But theres a difference between you two acknowledging each other as equals, and seeing everyone else as not having a clue.
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If I can't tell people what I think, then should I stop speaking at all??
This isn't what a "forum" is for. A forum is for talking. If you can't talk for fear of driving people into leaving, then you don't use the forum any longer.
True. So I guess the best is to leave the discussion be whenever it goes against your opinions. ;)
* Bloc  retreats into lurker mode again

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Re : Bloc Madness
« Reply #5, on March 29th, 2012, 01:03 PM »
Quote from Nao on March 29th, 2012, 11:25 AM
Okay... Are you implying you're leaving for now, or leaving forever?
I for one think you're reading too much into his words. I think he merely gave up on this discussion.

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Re : Bloc Madness
« Reply #6, on March 29th, 2012, 01:34 PM »
I did notice he posted in another topic after that yeah.

@bloc> we're not like that. Period. Your decisions are often taken based on your immediate emotional response.

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Re : Bloc Madness
« Reply #7, on March 29th, 2012, 05:31 PM »
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No doubt, you are what you are. But theres a difference between you two acknowledging each other as equals, and seeing everyone else as not having a clue.
I start off assuming people don't have a clue until they prove otherwise, simply because that's a simpler and easier way to view the world, and sadly I keep finding it's all too accurate, given how many people don't even read what's in front of them.
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What is Dogbert? A spin-off of Dilbert?
Dogbert is a regular character in the Dilbert strip, he is a dog, very cynical. Often a 'management consultant' of sorts, or world ruler, amongst other things.

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Re : Bloc Madness
« Reply #9, on March 30th, 2012, 08:55 AM »
So do you want to keep your badge? (I'm not talking about the group itself of course.)

I'm suddenly wondering if additional groups don't show their badge anyway... Uh maybe that should be a membergroup setting too.

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Re : Bloc Madness
« Reply #10, on March 30th, 2012, 09:09 AM »
Quote from Nao on March 30th, 2012, 08:55 AM
So do you want to keep your badge? (I'm not talking about the group itself of course.)
I don't hate it enough to not want it.
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I'm suddenly wondering if additional groups don't show their badge anyway... Uh maybe that should be a membergroup setting too.
If you do decide to implement them, it should most definitely be an option.

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Re : Bloc Madness
« Reply #11, on March 30th, 2012, 09:11 AM »
I don't understand? Additional groups are a SMF feature..?

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Re : Bloc Madness
« Reply #12, on March 30th, 2012, 09:17 AM »Last edited on March 30th, 2012, 09:39 AM
Yes. I wouldn't even be using SMF without them!

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Re : Bloc Madness
« Reply #13, on March 30th, 2012, 11:21 AM »
In SMF and Wedge currently, the primary group badge is the only badge shown, and if the primary group does not have a badge, post count badges are shown. No additional groups are shown anywhere outside of the account settings page.

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Re : Bloc Madness
« Reply #14, on March 30th, 2012, 11:26 AM »
Okay thanks, that's the way I was thinking it worked. (Only a tad more complicated because of the post ranks... :lol:)
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