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Best font for the logo..?

Nao

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[Archive] Re: Logo Madness
« Reply #315, on July 30th, 2011, 04:35 PM »
Thank you.

As you can see I'm trying to get a feel of it by putting it in the header and footer. Maybe this is a logo that's best viewed on dark backgrounds... I'll give a try to the Wedge codebase as well.
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« Reply #316, on July 30th, 2011, 10:28 PM »
Any more feedback...?

The font may be a bit too thin in small sizes. Maybe I should use segoe ui at small sizes. Or PT Sans.

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« Reply #317, on July 30th, 2011, 11:00 PM »
Ubuntu Light

I did try to do it in PT Sans but I found the spacing too narrow, if I widen it, it's won't look like PT Sans at all.  :lol:

Have a close look at the top of letter 'd'  :D

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Nao

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[Archive] Re: Logo Madness
« Reply #318, on July 31st, 2011, 12:10 AM »
Nice font... I like the w.
I'm trying to edit your stuff in Inkscape. Apparently your converted the font to outlines so I can't just change the font style...?

When it comes to letter spacing, the following is my favorite (still a Segoe UI Light.)
As you can see, for logos I prefer to have relatively tight font spacing. (I manually moved each of the letters.)

Is there any way to add shadows without duplicating the outlines? Illustrator seems to have a drop shadow option that is 'linked' to the parent text itself.

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[Archive] Re: Logo Madness
« Reply #319, on July 31st, 2011, 12:56 AM »
I attached the copy that uses font and not outlines.

The only way to add shadows without duplicating the outlines is the "drop shadow" effect, Effect > Stylize > Drop Shadow...

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[Archive] Re: Logo Madness
« Reply #320, on July 31st, 2011, 11:04 AM »
Wow! I really like this new concept! And yes, it's perfect on dark backgrounds!

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[Archive] Re: Logo Madness
« Reply #321, on July 31st, 2011, 06:14 PM »
I been experimenting with shadows, the one on the left uses "Drop Shadow", the middle uses duplicate outlines with "Gaussian Blur" and on the right same as the middle but demonstrating the extra flexibility that not possible with "Drop Shadow"

Soon as I resize them, on the left the shadow goes out of proportions, while the middle and the right stays in correct proportions. The reason is that "Drop Shadow" goes by pixel which is absolute, "Gaussian Blur" goes by radius which is relative to the outline.

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« Reply #322, on July 31st, 2011, 07:06 PM »
Oh, I've been doing the same myself with Inkscape... I 'tried' Illustrator but I have issues with it. I don't really connect with it, at least for now. In Inkscape I was able to apply drop shadows (filters) of my choice to the font version, and best of all -- it applies in real time to text changes.
It's hard to change the letter spacing though. In both software, I have to click the text tool, click between two letters and change the spacing manually in the toolbox. In Illustrator, I can't move the text itself (or at the very least didn't get to find the feature to do so). I'll probably be going for Inkscape in the end.
Anyway, these vector program thingies... They're cool. Way more powerful than PSP7. But also way harder to use... :-/

Still haven't found the 'right' balance between beautiful and readable, for now. Looking into other fonts, but even PT Sans doesn't look as 'good' as Segoe UI Light when it comes to logo-demoing.
[Archive] Re: Logo Madness
« Reply #323, on August 1st, 2011, 09:15 AM »Last edited on August 1st, 2011, 10:38 AM by Nao/Gilles
Here's a test with a modified object behind the text. (Playing with settings :P)
I moved the text inside the object, colorized only the first letter (as in the original logo), and changed the font to a Helvetica clone.
The best point IMO is that readability at reduced size is increased tenfold. And it still looks sexy (albeit a bit less?) in large size.
Of course it's also less original. Helvetica eh... It's like Arial, only a bit better :P
Then again, Wedge uses Arial everywhere... As I said, I made peace with it.

:edit: Also added a black version, and a version with a smaller wedge object...

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« Reply #324, on August 1st, 2011, 02:13 PM »
And another try... This time with PT Sans.

I'm starting to get the hang of these vector drawing programs. It's the main point of my work on this logo really. I'm getting experience and all.

Still, I wouldn't mind getting some feedback... :P

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[Archive] Re: Logo Madness
« Reply #325, on August 1st, 2011, 02:28 PM »
The one in reply 350 reminds me of a Nintendo Wii console, with the funny lower edge bracket it has.

As for the one in reply 352 I like it, more than I like r350's but I'd grown attached to the two-triangle logo rather than the one-triangle those use. It's still good looking, and I think it fits our colour scheme better like that than the earlier logos.

But that's just me.
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[Archive] Re: Logo Madness
« Reply #326, on August 1st, 2011, 02:34 PM »
I think the Helvetica version is better, Arial is cheap intimidation of Helvetica.

If you thought vector software was hard, try using 3D vector software such as Blender and 3DS MAX, a lot more settings involved.  :niark:
[Archive] Re: Logo Madness
« Reply #327, on August 1st, 2011, 05:57 PM »
Quote from Nao/Gilles on August 1st, 2011, 02:13 PM
Still, I wouldn't mind getting some feedback... :P
Feedback for the logo show:

This one has a nice touch of .. something, maybe '70s to it. The "we" stands apart from the "dge", and it reads weird for me. We? You? Dge? Dodge? What?  :lol:


Uh, no brown pie for me.


Actually the large version on this works for me, but at this size it kind of gets lost in itself.


(I still love this one :D)

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[Archive] Re: Logo Madness
« Reply #328, on August 1st, 2011, 06:29 PM »


I like these two the best.  Not sure which I like more, but I really like how the first looks in the site here.
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[Archive] Re: Logo Madness
« Reply #329, on August 1st, 2011, 06:33 PM »
What would it look like if you separated the w from the edge?

(quickly gimped mockup)
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