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Nao

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Re: "Paid for" shit.
« Reply #61, on July 30th, 2011, 08:23 AM »
Well... Speaking about censorship and paranoia over at sm.org...

The official Aeva Media mod page was modified yesterday.

NOT BY ME.

ALL REFERENCES TO WEDGE WERE REMOVED AND THE PAGE LAYOUT WAS SCREWED UP.

So. WHO DID THAT? And does the SMF team condone that?
I did not receive any warning or whatever.

Interesting that it's happening precisely now...

Arantor

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Re: "Paid for" shit.
« Reply #62, on July 30th, 2011, 09:48 AM »
Well, only those with customisation approval access, and admins, can modify that page.

I wonder if there's now going to be claims that you did it...
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Nao

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Re: "Paid for" shit.
« Reply #63, on July 30th, 2011, 01:03 PM »
I did log into sm.org this week but I doubt I did it in the last couple of days. Can anyone with an account look into my login data and tell us whether it predates their mod page edit?

Whatever anyway: I did -not- change the AeMe page. Every time I changed it, I added a note with a date on it. Does anyone see a note dated July 29? Didnt think so.

That's censorship again. Way to go smf especially right as the team is trying to tell us that Arg and possibly RR are lying. Meh!
Posted: July 30th, 2011, 12:58 PM

Original page, before modification. (From Google cache.)

http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:AoS2wlPMXTIJ:custom.simplemachines.org/mods/index.php%3Fmod%3D977+aeva+media+977&cd=1&hl=fr&ct=clnk&lr=lang_en%7Clang_ja%7Clang_fr&client=opera&source=www.google.com

And again:

http://www.simplemachines.org/about/values.php
"Friendly Competition
We exist in a competitive world, with many other alternative software titles. We will persevere in this arena through quality and respect, not through antagonism and hate. We will be supportive and will not insult, disparage or in any other way tear down other projects, businesses or organizations."

Like censoring their MOST DOWNLOADED MOD isn't a move against us!
Not only are they not supportive of us -- they're not supportive of their *own users*.

We are legal. They have no right to censor us.

Arantor

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Re: "Paid for" shit.
« Reply #64, on July 30th, 2011, 01:08 PM »
Given a joust I've just had with LexArma, I think it's fair to infer that the team did indeed edit the page.

Honestly, though, did you really expect any better from them?

Nao

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Re: "Paid for" shit.
« Reply #65, on July 30th, 2011, 01:55 PM »
Yes, considering they are accusing us of screwing around. They always start the shit.

I don't think anyone using smf deserves AeMe at this point. What's the point in providing it to them. :(

I mean, *the SMF team modified AeMe's copyright/credit*. "Core values" eh!!

I'd love to know WHO exactly did that. But I'm sure they're just the usual coward who won't admit to their actions and will make big smiles in public.

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Re: "Paid for" shit.
« Reply #66, on July 30th, 2011, 03:02 PM »
Quote from Nao/Gilles on July 30th, 2011, 01:03 PM
Can anyone with an account look into my login data and tell us whether it predates their mod page edit?
Just for the record (sorry, on my phone and I use SM.org in French):
Dernière visite: juillet 27, 2011, 04:45:41 am [Nao's last login]
Dernière modification: Hier à 10:37:28 pm [last modification]

Nao

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Re: "Paid for" shit.
« Reply #67, on July 30th, 2011, 03:49 PM »
(are you French then?)

Thanks for clearing that up.

As one would say: I rest my case. It's called censorship.

ARG

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Re: "Paid for" shit.
« Reply #68, on July 30th, 2011, 04:01 PM »
Now why doesn't any of this surprise me?
Quote from Les™ on July 25th, 2011, 10:01 PM
All you really need to do is surf the SMF sites support topics. You will sooner or later get the overall feel of dictatorship and experience censorship at it's finest. It will be very easy to distinguish the good from the power hungry.
;)

runic

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Re: "Paid for" shit.
« Reply #69, on July 30th, 2011, 04:34 PM »
i personally have issues with many of the so called Support Specialist, many dont give help they take guesses without reading, one yesterday read the post and its evident that the users database issue was due to incorrect path, after he admitted he couldnt fix another issue in repair_settings.php.  Within minutes of getting access to his site the problem was sorted, it was also what I was working towards before someone else butted in with "is your mysql server functioning".  Now regarding your mod Nao I just called the person out for ause of power as that could have been handled more diplomatically :)

ARG

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Re: "Paid for" shit.
« Reply #70, on July 30th, 2011, 04:44 PM »
Not reading a support request thoroughly before offering support has always been an issue. I myself have done this on occasion but then again, I don't carry a "Support Specialist" badge either.

 ;)

runic

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Re: "Paid for" shit.
« Reply #71, on July 30th, 2011, 05:00 PM »
but taking a guess when the issue is right in your face isnt something that is right

Lex

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Re: "Paid for" shit.
« Reply #72, on July 30th, 2011, 05:11 PM »
Arantor, all I said was it wasn't edited "just for fun" - but I also seconded Runic over at SM, and agree that the way it was handled was poor...

Nao

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Re: "Paid for" shit.
« Reply #73, on July 30th, 2011, 06:09 PM »
Okay, took a minute to compile what was edited out of the AeMe mod page... (Again, without even telling me.)

- "from the Wedge team" (in the copyright), including the link, and the [/center] tag, which as a result breaks the layout. It's not even WELL done...

- "The commercial branch is now part of the Wedge software, where it is available for free."

- My account's website link was also deleted without warning or anything. You know, this place where ANYONE can put ANY link they want? Especially if it's THEIR website?

If they don't want my website linked on MY account, then they might as well remove my account as well, because I'm not sharing any of my 6k posts over there with people who don't want to even acknowledge my existence.

<sigh>

Arantor

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Re: "Paid for" shit.
« Reply #74, on July 30th, 2011, 07:05 PM »
You know as well as I do that once you signed the CLA you no longer had the right to remove your own posts as I proved a short while ago.

Best decision I ever made was removing my account for a second time. In hindsight I shouldn't even have bothered setting up that account because it hasn't brought me anything but hassle.
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