So, SMF has declared the cold war...

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Re: So, I've been asked...
« Reply #15, on March 31st, 2011, 11:56 AM »
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Also, can we be competitors when we have nothing to offer right now except for dreams...?
What they don't like, is that we're putting our fingers where it hurts: that they have not done much in the time since we left the team.
Yup.
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I'm afraid I only remember him by name. Is he friendly and sensible, or not?
Sensible, and not easily angered.
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So, let's say they pass their "law"... What now? Do they also forbid competitor links inside posts? If they don't, then I'm sure you'll find a good reason to post a link to Wedge in every single of your replies
I already got a warning for that before with a threat for every one of my posts to be moderated... it's almost worth it actually, to see how long it takes before they either get fed up with moderating my posts (I swear I can keep up posting far more than they can keep up with approving/editing/whatever) and turn it off, or just ban me.
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Trying to stick their heads in the sand is no solution to THEIR problems.
I know that. That's why I linked the bug report I did in the other board for now; it's evidence that they're not going to spend any time actually fixing the bug and more on making the circumstances go away.
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Re: So, I've been asked...
« Reply #16, on March 31st, 2011, 12:03 PM »
Quote from Arantor on March 31st, 2011, 11:56 AM
I already got a warning for that before with a threat for every one of my posts to be moderated... it's almost worth it actually, to see how long it takes before they either get fed up with moderating my posts (I swear I can keep up posting far more than they can keep up with approving/editing/whatever) and turn it off, or just ban me.
It would take them a LOT of balls to actually justify banning you altogether!
I mean, they got away with post-banning me only because I decided to call it quits at the same time, and I can be a PITA at times indeed. But you? People would *notice* there's a trick :P

Oh, BTW, I just attempted a search on "Wedge" at sm.org and found zero hits... They can't seriously say we're spamming them!!

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Re: So, I've been asked...
« Reply #17, on March 31st, 2011, 12:40 PM »
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It would take them a LOT of balls to actually justify banning you altogether!
Oh, I think I can nudge them in that direction if it was warranted, and it wouldn't even be hard (I've suggested how to do it before ;))

I was pushing it back in December where I was mentioning it a lot, but not by name.

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Re: So, I've been asked...
« Reply #18, on March 31st, 2011, 02:57 PM »
Banning Arantor would be a suicide for support and the coding section :P

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Re: So, I've been asked...
« Reply #19, on March 31st, 2011, 02:59 PM »
Quote from DoctorMalboro on March 31st, 2011, 02:57 PM
Banning Arantor would be a suicide for support and the coding section :P
They wouldn't get any new bug reports anymore. And we already saw, that they even made a new RC because of Arantor posting a more or less serious bug.

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Re: So, I've been asked...
« Reply #22, on March 31st, 2011, 03:08 PM »
There's another security related matter from in the tracker in fact.

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Re: So, I've been asked...
« Reply #23, on March 31st, 2011, 03:26 PM »
Quote from DoctorMalboro on March 31st, 2011, 03:01 PM
Actually, I have seen more Nao reports lately...
I don't see what you mean. They removed my rights to post in the bug tracker in early November, when they discovered I had moved the SMF copyright link (at noisen.com) from the footer to the Credits page. Which I had done precisely because they'd perm-post-banned me...
It's this silly little game of domination, you know. They liked having me posting bug reports (even long after they perm-banned me), but when they saw I didn't respect them the way they thought they deserved, they deprived themselves from that help. Not that I care... Instead of reporting bugs and fixing them in Wedge at the same time, I just simply fixed them in Wedge.

Seriously, we're not advertising this fact, but SMF still has dozen of unreported bugs that are fixed in Wedge. When it comes to security issues, we try to report them (through Pete), but they don't even care about those...

It's a downward spiral.

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Re: So, I've been asked...
« Reply #24, on March 31st, 2011, 03:59 PM »
I did report one bug that irritated me recently in SMF itself, but only since I'd long since already fixed in it Wedge anyway (and did so better than how I think they'll fix it) but no-one's looking over the bug reports, no-one's trying to reproduce them, though to be fair, most of what's in bug reports should have been posted to the support boards anyway.

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Re: So, I've been asked...
« Reply #25, on March 31st, 2011, 04:48 PM »
I think I was doing something like 75% of the beta testing work all by myself for the couple of years I was a tester.
If there's something they're bad at, it's... well, simple math.

So, in conclusion, SMF is dead, and that's why they're preventing you from putting a link to its successor in your signature. I can't help but think it's a bit pathetic. I hope they prove me wrong...

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Re: So, I've been asked...
« Reply #26, on March 31st, 2011, 06:09 PM »
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I have just replied asking whether it's appropriate for team members to be linking to phpBB forums and will await the reply with interest.
haha, [SiNaN]'s signature, right?

I'll change my avatar on SM.org soon and use the wedge version instead, I'm really interested in their responce  ;)
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Re: So, I've been asked...
« Reply #28, on March 31st, 2011, 06:58 PM »
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I'll change my avatar on SM.org soon and use the wedge version instead,
That's the spirit! (Plus, I'm jealous of your avatar... :P)
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I'm really interested in their responce  ;)
It doesn't link here so I guess they won't say a thing...

Anyway, whether Pete gets banned or not or whatever -- if everyone here starts putting a link to Wedge in their signature, what will they do? Mass bans, like in January?

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Re: So, I've been asked...
« Reply #29, on March 31st, 2011, 07:25 PM »
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Anyway, whether Pete gets banned or not or whatever -- if everyone here starts putting a link to Wedge in their signature, what will they do? Mass bans, like in January?
It's entirely possible, but unlikely.