Most Big Boards are Ugly, Why?

Wanchope

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Most Big Boards are Ugly, Why?
« on May 8th, 2013, 05:02 PM »
I have been thinking about this for a very long time now. Why are big boards around always ugly and unwelcome environment to the users? IGN Boards recently changed to Xenforo, before that the user Interface was rubbish and the website theme itself was trash.Giaonline is another forum and get me thinking...meh! Lets not mention nairaland was a let down to SMF (as in theme) until it was recently rewritten with python. Still trash on PC but the Mobile theming is the best around. Why is it that big boards around are ugly and dirty?

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Re: Most Big Boards are Ugly, Why?
« Reply #1, on May 8th, 2013, 05:07 PM »
Mostly because they set up their style in the old days, then got big in spite of ugly design, and had to keep it to avoid upsetting the existing fans.
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Re: Most Big Boards are Ugly, Why?
« Reply #2, on May 8th, 2013, 05:56 PM »
Quote from Arantor on May 8th, 2013, 05:07 PM
Mostly because they set up their style in the old days, then got big in spite of ugly design, and had to keep it to avoid upsetting the existing fans.
You need to see the picture of Facebook back in 2004,you will just lol.I don't think upgrading a user driven website outlook will upset them,granted,many will complain which  is just normal,majority will be happy because humans like renovation. Many websites are known for their colours — Facebook is White and blue,Google White background...This is what I think should be maintained, improvement by adding smooth interactive function like ajax is a must. There is a need to move with web trends. Thanks.

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Re: Most Big Boards are Ugly, Why?
« Reply #3, on May 8th, 2013, 08:10 PM »
it also depends who is running it (and what you consider to be a "big board")

For example, I run 40konline on SMF.
They were originally built on YABB as EldarOnline and supported by [Unknown] himself...
the layout has changed many times over the years... including Mambo and Joomla before SMF portals came far enough to dump the external CMS.

I like Red & White Kop and Hogsville, myself. :)


oh... and as for facebook...   they are one of the worst examples to use about applying interface changes since they apparently are planned by drunk monkeys and don't even bother to do focus groups or even ask the users what they think.
(I also disagree on your statement that ajax is a must)

Wanchope

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Re: Most Big Boards are Ugly, Why?
« Reply #4, on May 9th, 2013, 05:09 PM »
The two forum you listed are very clean with a matching colour, that's not what I am trying to point out.Check how this guy is center aligning post link in his Message Index - nairaland.com/phones
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oh... and as for facebook...   they are one of the worst examples to use about applying interface changes since they apparently are planned by drunk monkeys and don't even bother to do focus groups or even ask the users what they think.
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(I also disagree on your statement that ajax is a must)
Then why is Xenforo better than Phpbb?

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Re: Most Big Boards are Ugly, Why?
« Reply #5, on May 9th, 2013, 05:17 PM »
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Then why is Xenforo better than Phpbb?
Many reasons, even though xf does use ajax its not a pure ajax based interface. Plus ajax alone won't make a software stand out.
The way it's meant to be

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Re: Most Big Boards are Ugly, Why?
« Reply #7, on May 9th, 2013, 05:23 PM »
I don't know that xenforo is better than phpbb. I actuallty have never used xenforo and have not touched phpbb in over 6 years.
(I can't get to nairaland... it's blocked from my office)

Ajax is just another function.
The presence or lack of it does not determine how "good" a forum is.

meaures of a forum:
Does it cover the content that you are looking for?
Does it allow you to find that information?

Everything else, IMO is icing.
icing is nice... but too much icing ruins the cake

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Re: Most Big Boards are Ugly, Why?
« Reply #8, on May 9th, 2013, 05:25 PM »
* Arantor holds active vB, XF and IPB licences.

XF does put phpBB in the corner somewhat, it feels unified, everything is logically laid out, and the AJAX is a nice touch for the most part.

Wanchope

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Re: Most Big Boards are Ugly, Why?
« Reply #9, on May 9th, 2013, 06:49 PM »
From user experience, Ajax is highly user friendly. Imagine me typing and posting without reloading the page. Not everybody is from Uk and US. I am a Nigerian and many of forum users will always be marveled to see their post sent with just a couple 'turning element.Most of them like Facebook pages and post because it somehow fun to see how the like button rotates and show their likes. Not every body is a tech literate like you guys and something like ajax feature makes the rate the forum high.
Agreed, forum is mostly measure by the content but most content are made by users, anything that will make them post is always welcome.They will only post (especially in a new forum) if they feel the forum have quality.
Thanks for replying my posts, am now 'playing' with the big boys :)

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Re: Most Big Boards are Ugly, Why?
« Reply #10, on May 14th, 2013, 07:31 AM »
Quote from Arantor on May 8th, 2013, 05:07 PM
Mostly because they set up their style in the old days, then got big in spite of ugly design, and had to keep it to avoid upsetting the existing fans.
That and most themes are heavily modified and changing would be a nightmare.

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Re: Most Big Boards are Ugly, Why?
« Reply #11, on May 16th, 2013, 12:10 AM »
Quote from Wanchope on May 9th, 2013, 06:49 PM
Imagine me typing and posting without reloading the page.
That is basically the reason behind by default SMF returns to the message index after posting instead of to the topic. :P (but I'd like to have the preview working in the quick reply ... something like this would be too much, but a bit less...maybe...somehow, somewhere... :angel: )

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Re: Most Big Boards are Ugly, Why?
« Reply #12, on May 16th, 2013, 12:14 AM »
* Arantor coughs and points to the "Switch to full editor" button

Though if we were to have it AJAXively fetch the entire editor and not just the buttons and smileys, that would be doable.