live627

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Menu bug
« on May 11th, 2014, 01:58 AM »
I only see [Home] and [Profile] here on this site.
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CerealGuy

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Re: Menu bug
« Reply #1, on May 11th, 2014, 03:05 PM »Last edited on May 11th, 2014, 03:18 PM
Quote from Nao Commit revision 58ec45a
Moved some of the main menu's top entries (media gallery, member list) to sub-entries of the 'home' menu. Also moved the Logout button to the 'profile' menu. (Subs.php, index.css, index.english.php)
But actually i dont really like it :^^;:. The menu is too empty...
If members would be a "main entry", that would be nice.

Nao

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Re: Menu bug
« Reply #2, on May 11th, 2014, 03:33 PM »
The idea is to get rid of the menu bar and allow skinners to mix it with other things like the notification bar. Or simply give more padding to the menu like I'm planning to try.

Additionally anyone can write a plugin to move Members back to the root of course. It's easy to do with hooks.
Re: Menu bug
« Reply #3, on May 11th, 2014, 10:35 PM »
Guys, feel free to say if I'm the only one liking this! I mean, I tend to take your tastes as granted...

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Re: Menu bug
« Reply #4, on May 12th, 2014, 08:56 AM »
I like it. I think it's a cleaner look.
Allowing people to adapt it for their own purposes seems like a good plan to me.
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madfitz

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Re: Menu bug
« Reply #5, on May 12th, 2014, 11:07 AM »
Personally I'm not a fan of icons within the drop down menu (just the 'gallery' or 'member' wording should suffice).

But generally speaking, a menu is a menu is a menu. Drop down, pop up, static list in left or right column... whatever makes for easier coding and better speed is good for me.

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Re: Menu bug
« Reply #6, on May 14th, 2014, 03:33 PM »
Sorry to say this but I don't like it. Would be a reason for me not to use Wedge!

Nao

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Re: Menu bug
« Reply #7, on May 14th, 2014, 04:46 PM »
Really? For THAT..?

Some people see what they wanna see.
If, to you, a small design decision (that can be customized quickly) outweighs the years I spent on innovative, more technical features, then so be it.

CerealGuy

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Re: Menu bug
« Reply #8, on May 14th, 2014, 08:13 PM »
Perhaps a plugin to easily customize the menu would be a good thing. :hmm:

Nao

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Re: Menu bug
« Reply #9, on May 14th, 2014, 08:54 PM »
I'll make it a skin option. It'll be easier on eberyone. Still... Not too happy that people are generally seeing a fork's worth as its default theme. Outside of it, it's too 'complicated' to evaluate.

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Re: Menu bug
« Reply #10, on May 15th, 2014, 11:01 AM »
Quote from Nao on May 14th, 2014, 08:54 PM
I'll make it a skin option. It'll be easier on eberyone. Still... Not too happy that people are generally seeing a fork's worth as its default theme. Outside of it, it's too 'complicated' to evaluate.
I think I'm missing something here. Nao is clearly not too happy as stated - but about what exactly? People liking (or not liking) a menu system? And the complicated evaluation? I'm lost :-/

Someone please explain (in simple terms, like I was a 5 year old) what the problem is: for users and for Nao?

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Re: Menu bug
« Reply #11, on May 15th, 2014, 01:54 PM »
Quote from madfitz on May 15th, 2014, 11:01 AM
Someone please explain (in simple terms, like I was a 5 year old) what the problem is: for users and for Nao?
In short (and as I see it - all errors of interpretation are my own.)

The problem from a user perspective:
The webpage looks different.

The problem from @Nao's point of view:
Some people are willing to give up on Wedge because of a cosmetic change, which users could easily customize to their own preference. Some users are fickle and focus merely on the bling, not on all the (tons of) stuff beneath the hood.

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Re: Menu bug
« Reply #12, on May 15th, 2014, 11:02 PM »
OK, I see where you're coming from. I wouldn't really say the page looks different though - no difference that strikes me anyway.

Cosmetic, fickle, bling etc... yeah, I see why Nao should be tired of that.

Nao

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Re: Menu bug
« Reply #13, on May 15th, 2014, 11:55 PM »
I'm just making it possible for skinners to build a non-menu-centric header is all.
Re: Menu bug
« Reply #14, on June 15th, 2014, 12:59 AM »
It's interesting that PowerBob actually left wedge.org over this......