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[FAQ] Re: Why isn't wedge.org running Wedge?
« Reply #15, on April 20th, 2011, 03:28 PM »
Yeah.
Plus, it's a waste of bandwidth to show the same title every single time... And it encourages users not to change the title because people just won't notice -- whereas when it's shown only when changed, it just becomes obvious.

Here's me wondering what should be the behavior for Re: posts where the Re: contents is the changed title. If we assume that all Re: posts should have their title hidden, it gives more real estate, but also fails to convey the fact that an entire derivative conversation is taking place. I think I'd rather hide Re: titles only when they're the same as the first post's. It might encourage moderators to split topics when they see that suddenly all of the posts are using a visible title...
Not sure yet.

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[FAQ] Re: Why isn't wedge.org running Wedge?
« Reply #17, on April 20th, 2011, 03:41 PM »
Yes...

OP: Some Topic
Reply 1: Re: Some Topic
Reply 2: Another Topic Entirely
Reply 3: Re: Another Topic Entirely

Solution 1:

OP: Some Topic
Reply 1:
Reply 2: Another Topic Entirely
Reply 3:

Solution 2:

OP: Some Topic
Reply 1:
Reply 2: Another Topic Entirely
Reply 3: Re: Another Topic Entirely

Which would be best...?

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[FAQ] Re: Why isn't wedge.org running Wedge?
« Reply #18, on April 20th, 2011, 03:52 PM »
 :hmm: I'd go with solution 1. The other option is confusing IMO. People are going to suspect that its an bug when you go with solution 2...

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[FAQ] Re: Why isn't wedge.org running Wedge?
« Reply #19, on April 20th, 2011, 04:07 PM »
Solution 1 is what Noisen already does and I'm inclined to think that's what Wedge should do.

Or you can store it but only display it as per solution 1 - which means that if there's a split, the split still retains the information to make semantic use of it.

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[FAQ] Re: Why isn't wedge.org running Wedge?
« Reply #20, on April 20th, 2011, 05:24 PM »
Noisen always stores the title, whether it's repeated or not. It's pretty much mandatory if you want to make it work elsewhere (message search, etc.)

BTW... At some point we should also determine whether we record parent messages IDs for posts. (Even if we don't use them, of course.)

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[FAQ] Re: Why isn't wedge.org running Wedge?
« Reply #21, on April 20th, 2011, 08:40 PM »
Oh, I thought it only stored it if necessary :/ But yes, it is.

Parent id would be interesting but I don't see any practical application other than threading of posts which I'm really not sure about.

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[FAQ] Re: Why isn't wedge.org running Wedge?
« Reply #22, on April 20th, 2011, 09:46 PM »
I don't know... Apart from threading, we could simply add a small icon next to the post, redirecting to the parent post. Which could be useful if one replied to a post and then deleted all of the quotes...
Then again, you'd usually do that through Quick Reply. And of course it's not possible to get a parent ID for those... (Except, of course, if there's only one post in the topic so far.)

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[FAQ] Re: Why isn't wedge.org running Wedge?
« Reply #24, on April 20th, 2011, 10:36 PM »Last edited on April 20th, 2011, 11:06 PM by borg1985
Could do something like the following.

« #23 Today at 3:56:52 PM » In reply to #22.

In the case of multiple quotes from multiple posts it could look like this.

« #23 Today at 3:56:52 PM » In reply to #20, #21, and #22.

Where the numbers are listed in the order the quotes are added or just numerical order.  You could also add the poster name so instead of just saying "In reply to #22." it could say "In reply to Nao #22."
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[FAQ] Re: Why isn't wedge.org running Wedge?
« Reply #27, on April 20th, 2011, 11:49 PM »Last edited on April 20th, 2011, 11:57 PM by Makar
Quote from Nao/Gilles on April 20th, 2011, 10:44 PM
Too many options = confusion and illusion of bloat...
Provide choice
let the admin to decide whether it will look like forum
it will not look like freaks

p.s. I always tidy up the prefix re
p.p.s. here I am missing the names topic in each message (especially when viewing a page with a mobile phone)

- more than just a forum <br />sorry for my english

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[FAQ] Re: Why isn't wedge.org running Wedge?
« Reply #28, on April 21st, 2011, 12:10 AM »
We're providing choices where we feel it can be helpful.
For instance, the caching system in Wedge can use 9 different settings (no compression, compress with JSMin, compress with a customized Packer / local jQuery, jQuery at jQuery CDN, jQuery at Google CDN, maybe at Microsoft not sure, and 3² = 9). Things like that can be useful (even to me for debugging purposes)... But modifying a post layout is more of a styling's or a plugin's job to me. I'm trying to move as much as possible into these really.
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