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CvH

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gallery from the admin pov
« on April 18th, 2012, 06:42 PM »
At the moment there are not many informations about the gallery system from the admin point of view. I`d like to ask if there are changes planed or even already finished.

I`m using SMF + Aeva for an board with ~4000+ Pictures and I´m very pleased with the interation, besides a few things.

- Creating an folder/subfolder... is much too complicated.
Why not click on an existing folder and then click a button "create new folder", this would saves so much time instead of creating it over the admin panel. Also there are too much "useless" settings as per folder settings. I think it would be better to have an very simple gui for this task (or even simple / advanced settings). The Aeva way of creating folders made it impossible to use for nearly every normal user.

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It is nice and for technical affine people no problem. But if you look from the mother/girlfriend/normal facebook user views this step is nearly impossible.
Better would be that you have an button at "insert a picture from gallery" at creating a post. Then a frame pops of (better no new window cause of the pop up blockers in nearly all browsers) where you can brows the gallery an choose an image with the desired type (preview, full ..). Copy and paste the media id seams easy but belief me 90% of my board users aren`t able to use it. Also it would looks better integrated in the board software.

To design a board software from the "normal user" view is difficult i know, but i hope you can achieve an easy to use software for everyone :)

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Arantor

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Re: gallery from the admin pov
« Reply #1, on April 18th, 2012, 06:58 PM »
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- Creating an folder/subfolder... is much too complicated.
Except that it's far more involved than just creating a new folder. Albums have permissions, just because you want to share your pictures with everyone does not mean the rest of us do. In fact, there are multiple albums here that are deliberately not shown to everyone - which *requires* having that extra UI.
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The Aeva way of creating folders made it impossible to use for nearly every normal user.
Or not, seeing how most users I've spoken to actually seem to manage it.
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It is nice and for technical affine people no problem. But if you look from the mother/girlfriend/normal facebook user views this step is nearly impossible.
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Better would be that you have an button at "insert a picture from gallery" at creating a post.
That's been there for years in the 2.x (paid) line and is in Wedge.
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To design a board software from the "normal user" view is difficult i know, but i hope you can achieve an easy to use software for everyone :)
You're not asking us to design it for 'normal users', you're asking us to design it for idiots, who are less competent than you give them credit for. We've spoken to users, we use this stuff on our own sites, day in and day out, and believe me, you're the first person to ask for it to be simpler.
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CvH

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Re: gallery from the admin pov
« Reply #2, on April 18th, 2012, 07:41 PM »
Hehe i know simple is always difficult to define.

I got an board where nearly all users are not technical affine, you could say computer idiots. The problem is that these people are the most users of the internet. I didn´t ask you to do it for an kindergarten child, but the core features should be girlfriend/mother proof.
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That's been there for years in the 2.x (paid) line and is in Wedge.
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Except that it's far more involved than just creating a new folder. Albums have permissions, just because you want to share your pictures with everyone does not mean the rest of us do. In fact, there are multiple albums here that are deliberately not shown to everyone - which *requires* having that extra UI.
I know, but e.g. gallery3 does the same but it is much easier to use. Can´t imagine that i have used an "gallery" software where folder creation is that complicated. It works for sure but easy and intuitive is something other :)

Arantor

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Re: gallery from the admin pov
« Reply #3, on April 18th, 2012, 07:45 PM »
You realise that it isn't exactly fair to compare Gallery and Aeva, right? Aeva is designed to handle a lot of flexibility in per-user per-album permissions so that I myself can decide who can see my content, and not just pictures. I can, as I have on one site, set it up so pictures in my albums are visible to all but downloads are only for limited users. I doubt you can as readily do the same in Gallery, if it's even possible.

Here's the thing, you can have the idiot proofing you think you need[1] or you can have the flexibility that Aeva and Wedge currently offer.

Most of the users I know would rather have the functionality than the idiot proofing because it makes them feel like they're not incompetent fools.
 1. I'm well known for considering users stupid until they demonstrate otherwise, but you consider them even more incompetent than I do, which is quite impressive.

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Re: gallery from the admin pov
« Reply #4, on April 18th, 2012, 10:07 PM »
Quote from Arantor on April 18th, 2012, 07:45 PM
1.    I'm well known for considering users stupid until they demonstrate otherwise, but you consider them even more incompetent than I do, which is quite impressive.
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Re: gallery from the admin pov
« Reply #6, on May 18th, 2012, 11:28 PM »
POV?, sounds more like "user view"... I don't want to say the other option lol.

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Re: gallery from the admin pov
« Reply #7, on May 19th, 2012, 06:40 AM »Last edited on May 19th, 2012, 06:49 AM
I guess the initial album addition interface can be made less overwhelming a bit by making secondary items (those which have a plausible default) collapsed by default.
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You realise that it isn't exactly fair to compare Gallery and Aeva, right? Aeva is designed to handle a lot of flexibility in per-user per-album permissions so that I myself can decide who can see my content, and not just pictures. I can, as I have on one site, set it up so pictures in my albums are visible to all but downloads are only for limited users. I doubt you can as readily do the same in Gallery, if it's even possible.
Actually Gallery 2 has a lot of control when it comes to permission, it even has per-item permissions AFAIK. Although I think the user albums are more limited than AeMe, it's been a while since I had a look at either Gallery 2 or Gallery 3. G3 is more limited than G2 since they stripped a lot of features out for the sake of simplicity (but it's quite prettier)
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Nao

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Re: gallery from the admin pov
« Reply #8, on May 19th, 2012, 08:20 AM »
Prettier? How so? I just had a look and I find their galleries ugly and unusable... :-/
(And I've pretty much stopped working on AeMe so it's not like I'd be jealous or anything.)

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Re: gallery from the admin pov
« Reply #9, on May 19th, 2012, 08:24 AM »
Quote from Nao on May 19th, 2012, 08:20 AM
Prettier? How so? I just had a look and I find their galleries ugly and unusable... :-/
(And I've pretty much stopped working on AeMe so it's not like I'd be jealous or anything.)
Prettier than G2 :P.
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