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So, what, exactly should be done with the birthday and calendar?

Birthdays and calendar should remain CORE
Birthdays CORE, calendar PLUGIN
Calendar PLUGIN with the birthdays built in to it
Birthdays PLUGIN, Calendar PLUGIN - separate but able to work together
Re: Birthday, calendar, plugin, core [VOTE NOW!]
« Reply #15, on October 11th, 2011, 01:00 PM »
Quote from Arantor on October 11th, 2011, 09:58 AM
I don't think people *dislike* it per se. I think partly the problem is some people use the calendar solely for birthdays (which to me seems odd because birthdays are a social feature, while a calendar is more organisational) and others use the calendar as a calendar, but find it a bit limited.
+1

If I see calender full of birthdays (especially on big forums) I don't even bother checking if there is some usefull event mentioned somewhere.

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Re: Birthday, calendar, plugin, core [VOTE NOW!]
« Reply #16, on October 11th, 2011, 01:01 PM »
Quote from billy2 on October 11th, 2011, 01:00 PM
* billy2 thinks to himself - If Birth Dates have to remain in Core, why is Arantor asking why I think Birthdays should be in the core. Are they not one of the same?

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No, they're totally different things.

Storing the birth date is required for COPPA compliance and must remain core for that reason.

Sending out nice emails, or displaying a list of everyone's birthdays is not required for compliance and is the part I want to move out of the core.
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Re: Birthday, calendar, plugin, core [VOTE NOW!]
« Reply #19, on October 12th, 2011, 02:12 AM »
I think everyone who was going to vote has done so by now, and it's pretty clear the direction that things are going in, so with that I'm going to begin work pretty shortly on migrating the birthday functionality to a plugin, and the calendar to a separate but integrative plugin.

You can't please everyone all of the time, but this way allows users to make what they want out of it a little more easily :)

(I've locked the poll but looking at the comments, it's actually 70% in favour of a dual plugin approach.)

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Re: Birthday, calendar, plugin, core [VOTE NOW!]
« Reply #21, on October 12th, 2011, 07:50 PM »
Damn, missed the vote!

Anyway, I would of voted for separate plugins. I personally like using the calendar, for important things, but absolutely abhor the 'birthdays' all over the place, I'm at the age when I prefer to forget birthdays and could care less about anybody elses!

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Re: Birthday, calendar, plugin, core [VOTE NOW!]
« Reply #22, on October 12th, 2011, 09:19 PM »
Quote from Arantor on October 11th, 2011, 09:58 AM
I think if it were more functional, it would be more likely to be used. At the same time I can see that it's not exactly something that's needed that heavily.
Exactly my thoughts.  If the calendar were on the developers radar, being improved and having functionality added, I'd be more interested in it.  Or if I ran a forum that, like some, relied on scheduling, I'd be more up on it.  And to tell the truth, I'd be happy to see development be directed towards the calendar.  Things like being able to go to a particular day in the calendar and see various forum activity that occurred on that day.  Those types of things would make it useful to people individually, instead of being a global date book.

But, the way the calendar is now, it's not really functional enough.
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Re: Birthday, calendar, plugin, core [VOTE NOW!]
« Reply #26, on October 12th, 2011, 10:41 PM »
Yup... Because we didn't really improve it in any way so far, and I don't give a damn about protecting my template changes (month list in the sidebar etc), it's an excellent candidate for being BSD'd.

Heck, that would even be a good reason to release other scarcely customized areas as BSD plugins...

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Re: Birthday, calendar, plugin, core [VOTE NOW!]
« Reply #29, on October 13th, 2011, 12:08 AM »
Heh, I was more curious as to what you might have had in mind, knowing that more 'core' things such as PMs and the memberlist were suggested as possible candidates.
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