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Recycle bin or inline moderation?

recycle
22 (50%)
inline
12 (27.3%)
Don't care
7 (15.9%)
Don't know
3 (6.8%)
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Re: Recycling board by default
« Reply #121, on April 10th, 2011, 02:04 AM »
I like the idea of a foe board/doing it in the moderation center. Inline works too. In my mind if I wanted a protection board (recycle board) I would just set up a board with restrictive permissions and just move stuff doesn't work well for posts but great for topics.

As for posts deleted from the same topic, maybe they could be grouped together in a single "topic" in the fake board/moderation center and when you view them have a link to "View in context" which would show them in the topic (not viewable by those who would not normally see them.)

Anyway don't think I covered anything "new."
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Re: Recycling board by default
« Reply #122, on April 10th, 2011, 02:19 AM »
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In my mind if I wanted a protection board (recycle board) I would just set up a board with restrictive permissions and just move stuff doesn't work well for posts but great for topics.
Just like how SMF does it right now. The recycle board is already built in, and works by nature exactly in this way; though it splits deleted posts off into its own little new topic.
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Re: Recycling board by default
« Reply #123, on April 10th, 2011, 09:44 AM »
If you'll have a look at the smf bug report center, I devoted a report to having posts grouped by topics in the recycle board. They didntgive a damn. It's my mission then :niark:

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Re: Recycling board by default
« Reply #124, on April 10th, 2011, 08:53 PM »
Quote from Nao/Gilles on April 10th, 2011, 09:44 AM
If you'll have a look at the smf bug report center, I devoted a report to having posts grouped by topics in the recycle board. They didntgive a damn. It's my mission then :niark:
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In my mind if I wanted a protection board (recycle board) I would just set up a board with restrictive permissions and just move stuff doesn't work well for posts but great for topics.
Just like how SMF does it right now. The recycle board is already built in, and works by nature exactly in this way; though it splits deleted posts off into its own little new topic.
Yep, which is why I don't use it normally. Honestly I just "edit" deleted posts saying they where deleted (if I am the admin that is.) That happens rarely either way though not much of a believer in deleting posts.

Be it inline, or a fake recycle bin I am glad to see that there will be innovation even in something as "simple" as post moderation. Lots of developers forget every step in the process effects usability and overall user experience.

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Re: Recycling board by default
« Reply #125, on April 11th, 2011, 11:45 PM »
They mainly get lost in endless discussions about features ;)

I tend to naturally get fed up after talking for a while, and jump straight into work to implement my ideas.
After all, there's no rule saying that whatever I'm committing shall remain that way. Nothing is set in stone.

Problem is, sometimes there are so many things we discuss at the same time -- I just end up forgetting a few things to implement. I would so love if readers could bump topics where a discussion was taking place and suddenly there's nothing else, without any mention of the implementation.

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Re: Recycling board by default
« Reply #126, on April 22nd, 2011, 03:23 AM »
I "don't know" If i would use it and "I don't care" if it would be implemented. It sounds reasonable either way :)

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Re: Recycling board by default
« Reply #127, on April 22nd, 2011, 03:25 AM »
It's already implemented. The whole point of this thread is _how_...
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Re: Recycling board by default
« Reply #128, on April 22nd, 2011, 03:26 AM »
Yeah, the current view is that what's there - making an existing SMF feature more prominent and turned on out of the box - isn't particularly ideal for a number of reasons, thus floating the idea of changing it and making it different and better. We're just not clear on how to make it better yet.

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Re: Recycling board by default
« Reply #129, on April 22nd, 2011, 03:31 AM »
Quote from live627 on April 22nd, 2011, 03:25 AM
It's already implemented. The whole point of this thread is _how_...
okay... I'm not that familiar with smf at all...
Quote from Arantor on April 22nd, 2011, 03:26 AM
Yeah, the current view is that what's there - making an existing SMF feature more prominent and turned on out of the box - isn't particularly ideal for a number of reasons, thus floating the idea of changing it and making it different and better. We're just not clear on how to make it better yet.
So you mean like a recycle bin with diamonds on it? :hmm:

I think let it be a board is quite strange. I would make some administration option for that and wouldn't let it be a part of the boards[1].
 1. That forum ~ board thing is always irritating. The ones call the whole thing board and then forums and others call it forum and have boards in it.

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Re: Recycling board by default
« Reply #130, on April 22nd, 2011, 03:34 AM »
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That forum ~ board thing is always irritating. The ones call the whole thing board and then forums and others call it forum and have boards in it.
Yup. When we say forum, we mean the entire forum thing, and a board is one area where there are topics.
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I think let it be a board is quite strange. I would make some administration option for that and wouldn't let it be a part of the boards
Well, it's technically natural since that's how it's physically stored.

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Re: Recycling board by default
« Reply #131, on April 23rd, 2011, 04:47 AM »
Quote from Arantor on April 22nd, 2011, 03:34 AM
Well, it's technically natural since that's how it's physically stored.
I see. I'm interested how it is turning out after all :)
Quote from Arantor on April 22nd, 2011, 03:34 AM
Yup. When we say forum, we mean the entire forum thing, and a board is one area where there are topics.
Okay, then we do it the same way. Good to know. :cool:

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Re: Recycling board by default
« Reply #132, on April 23rd, 2011, 07:34 AM »
Quote from MultiformeIngegno on April 8th, 2011, 12:52 AM
I'm still for the addition of a tab that contains all deleted posts (visible only to whom has perms to view it). :)
It looks like nobody do this before. It was a unique way for viewing deleted posts / board.  :P

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Re: Recycling board by default
« Reply #134, on October 14th, 2011, 04:46 AM »
BUMP :P

So this came to mind today in a discussion elsewhere.

The way SMF handles deleted posts is that it recalculates the replies such that If I should reference lets say reply #27 in a topic but then any reply prior to #27 is deleted the reference to reply #27 no longer makes sense.... where as in vb the replies are not recalculated when they are deleted there is just a gap in sequence for example 1,2,3,4,7,9,11,12,15...etc, so a reference to a reply number would actually indicate that replies have been deleted.

Thoughts... I know I was rambling there, blame the rum :)
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