Out of curiosity..which ideas would that be? I know you are protective of Wedge, but if you feel I *take" things from it, I'd like to be informed about that - so that I at least can *not* do that anymore lol. On the other side..if its some design bit you feel is whats been taken, it may not have been even conscious. I have actually been trying various stuff over the years, most of which didn't catch on, but nevertheless was interesting to explore.
Perhaps Pete remembered the mention I made about your last ViennaBBS theme, with its use of Segoe UI everywhere, as I commented that my local install was a Segoe UI and I was planning to commit it, and then you came and made it look like I'd taken the idea from you ;)
Of course, there are not exactly so many 'usable' webfonts around... My choices are limited to Arial/Helvetica (the most commonly used font online, I believe), Tahoma (with a fallback for bold and italics), Verdana (not so fun these days), Segoe UI (with an Arial fallback), Calibri (with a fallback on the x-height compatible Source Sans Pro -- one of my favorite solutions actually), Georgia (not a good idea to use it across the entire UI...!), or embedding a lightweight one-size-fits-all webfont like Droid Sans, Open Sans or PT Sans (not so light though this one). But it's a bad idea to embed a font by default, it should be seen only on specific forums, so it's a no-go for me.
lol, I can see that might look.. a bit strange. As yes, there aren't many standard fonts to choose from, I never gone into so much detail about each font, because they render differently on OS'es, on different machines and finally at different screen sizes lol. Thats the nature of the web: you can't get exactly the same on every PC(without using images only) so (for me) serves no purpose to try. I just want a approximate font-type and leave it at that.
Actually, when I made Curve it was far from boring lol. I was very excited
Also -- round corners. But it was long before CSS3 came into play, so it wasn't exactly a fun implementation...!
You must not have had fun making it IE6 compatible! Or maybe other people did all the work on that..?
I've usually made themes the old fashion way, using background images, that surprisingly works well enough on IE6, so no, I haven't enjoyed working with IE6 - but then it wasn't so much to do either. When tableless stuff came into the themes, it changed things. But early, or first Curve version used tables anyway. The exception was that darn menu..it only worked with javascript, and still does.
Of course, today its quite another matter, i don't take IE6 into consideration at all now.
You see more VB clones than SMF2 clones, but still SMF 2.0 is popular.
So it could either be fixed (in my mind) by using a different theme on sm.org than the default, or providing a much simpler skin for SMF2 and setting it to the default, while still providing Curve as an aside. But it's not a realistic solution...
Thing is, the more complex/convoluted a default theme, the more shocking it is when everyone starts running it.
It's one of the reasons I wanted to simplify Wine (and came up with Weaving), but it's even worse than that -- I'm actually wary (weary?) of seeing Weaving used on other sites...!
Heck, if anything, I should provide a huge box at install time, with the text "Please change the default colors! What do you want? Yellow? Green? Blue? Violet?"...
Letting go of ones creations, in the sense that they WILL be abused, copied, changed, improved when you offer them to others..thats just one of the things that goes along with it.
:)Blue is a calm color, it gives off a sense of stability and strength that no other color can match.
Only Themis. And it was green no doubt. I made other themes that were green too, but that was the first. Babylon was the default theme that came before "Core" theme, which I made for SMF 1.1. It was supposedly made by BabylonKing, a team member which did also some icons/smilies i think. I learned later though, that it was rather a collaboration between several team members, most notably Joseph.
And...adding a sidebar isn't really that innovative, despite what you might think.
Forcing it on the user, though, was rather innovative I'd say. And still providing a way to put it away -- by reducing the window width -- is even better.
I've never been fully happy with the contents of the sidebar, though. I'd like it to remain more consistent across pages.Portal mods have been indulging in them for years. While its certainly fresh to use them to attaching links and info related to your current whereabouts in the forum, its not new as such. I did that with the Simplicity theme for SMF 1.1, over 6 years ago. It was interesting then, but Simplicity theme was maybe too much at the time.
It was suggested in this topic that I could perhaps create some alternative themes or subthemes for Wedge...that might be interesting actually. A copy of Wedge would be needed for that to happen though.
What skin do you like best at Wedge.org?
