billy2

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Re: Wedge financial support
« Reply #15, on August 22nd, 2011, 10:38 AM »Last edited on August 22nd, 2011, 11:06 AM by billy2
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Yup. Like I said, I personally would be comfortable with offering a badge to indicate donor, but anything beyond that is questionable.
A badge for donations is (as far as I am concerned) vain (for want of a better word).
I suppose you could say that about any badge. Apart from the 'friend' badge of course  :lol:
Why dont you stick with the Tshirt idea - its private, and those that do buy a Tshirt will know they are helping quietly behind the scenes - without actually being publically recognised.
I guess what I am saying is; those that want to donate - great - buy a Tee.
Those that are not financially able but really really want to donate, are not persecuted made to feel inadequate outdone by not having a badge.

<br /><br />cough, cough.

Arantor

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Re: Wedge financial support
« Reply #16, on August 22nd, 2011, 10:46 AM »
If and when we go down the road of financial support, that's where I suspect we'll go first.
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Re: Wedge financial support
« Reply #17, on August 22nd, 2011, 11:17 AM »
Quote from ARG on August 22nd, 2011, 01:00 AM
Quote from Powerbob on August 21st, 2011, 11:24 PM
+1  :cool:
I agree. I normally donate to a good cause, something that I appreciate or enjoy and expect no special treatment in return. The problem is that many that donate have the idea that they are owed something for their generosity. They fail to conceive the true meaning of the word "donation".
One should not expect to be singled out for special treatment simply because of offering a donation. That would more or less be considered payment for services, not a donation.

 ;)
again +1  :cool:

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Re: Wedge financial support
« Reply #18, on August 27th, 2011, 06:51 PM »
Quote from Arantor on August 22nd, 2011, 10:46 AM
If and when we go down the road of financial support, that's where I suspect we'll go first.
For what its worth on a car club site I run we have "supporting members" that basically get a few extra priviledges on the forum. Like their own board to BS in... Access to special or new features as they are available... Etc...

Not saying you owe anyone anything. Its just what I did. ;D

Love to see you all together and coding also. Dragoon was always nice to me, Nao and arantor as well.. Its nice to see you all together. Gives me confidence that things will continue to progress and be awesome.

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Re: Wedge financial support
« Reply #19, on September 14th, 2011, 09:24 AM »
Quote from ARG on August 22nd, 2011, 01:00 AM
I agree. I normally donate to a good cause, something that I appreciate or enjoy and expect no special treatment in return. The problem is that many that donate have the idea that they are owed something for their generosity. They fail to conceive the true meaning of the word "donation".
One should not expect to be singled out for special treatment simply because of offering a donation. That would more or less be considered payment for services, not a donation.

 ;)
:cool: :cool: :cool:

true!!!! but its not users fault ... if they pay a certain amount of money to have extra privileges ,then they deserve to have them and its logical to claim them if they dont ...

the problem is with developers ... they dont have the balls to call it a paid service , so they cover it under the word donation...  ;)

i am not against some extra "attention" , group or services to donators ... i am against the cover up!
donation is the same shit if you give 1$ or 100$ ...if you must give x$ then its a paid service....  :hmm:

Arantor

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Re: Wedge financial support
« Reply #20, on September 14th, 2011, 12:21 PM »
This is why when WedgeDesk is released, I have no qualms calling it paid-for software.

Nao

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Re: Wedge financial support
« Reply #21, on September 14th, 2011, 12:32 PM »
And when AeMe 2.0 is released for Wedge, I...

Oh wait... It's already in Wedge. Oh fuck, there goes my evil business plan :lol:

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Re: Wedge financial support
« Reply #22, on September 14th, 2011, 12:38 PM »
The difference is that Aeva is popular, and WedgeDesk... isn't what you'd call popular. I don't see it as a business plan, exactly, more like Foxy was originally, an add-on that's nice to have, capable and not needed by everyone, but for those who do, they'd probably be quite happy to pay for it.

(I'm thinking in the $30 sort of range at the moment)

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Re: Wedge financial support
« Reply #23, on September 14th, 2011, 01:17 PM »
As a reminder I sold about two months' salary worth of AeMe copies (for a two year investment). I think a third of it was made when I slashed the price so there is no perfect price for it. I wouldn't expect WD to make that amount so just consider it as a small compensation for Pete's work on Wedge. (I'm talking to future buyers of WD mostly ;))

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Re: Wedge financial support
« Reply #24, on September 14th, 2011, 01:21 PM »
It's also a bit of a stick (think carrot and stick) for people who want support on it: if I'm supporting WD, I'm not working on Wedge, and as ever people who want something for themselves as opposed to something for everyone without being prepared to contribute time and effort, I think they should put something else in like money.

(And that can happily go towards server costs in the future if necessary)

Zootalaws

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Re: Wedge financial support
« Reply #25, on November 4th, 2011, 04:28 PM »
Hi, I'm new but thought I might pipe up.

Rather than money, I would be happy to offer US (east coast) web space if you need it - I have unlimited disk for mirroring, etc.
Not looking for any kind of special relationship, kudos or a 'badge' - I like the project and would be happy to support you where I could.

Security can be worked out to your satisfaction, once the space is up and running, I wouldn't want to be involved in any of the running, unless you needed help with something.

I could easily set up something if you want, just PM me.

As to anywhere else you need help, I am not a coder, but have 35 years tech/net/comms experience - server farms and distributed apps, mostly. Good with docs, testing (if it can be broken, I am usually the one that did it :)) and UI feedback.

Great project, guys. I like SMF but am frustrated with so many things... I hope that Wedge is a success for you.

Mike


(I have been skulking here for some weeks, but only registered today)

Nao

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Re: Wedge financial support
« Reply #26, on November 4th, 2011, 04:41 PM »
Thank you, that's nice to know :)
We don't need anything for now, though, as can be expected!

Is the current (French) server slow for you, BTW?

Zootalaws

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Re: Wedge financial support
« Reply #27, on November 5th, 2011, 07:17 AM »
I live on the steamy jungle-covered paradise that is Borneo - everything here is slow :)

We have to sort out the bottleneck: that is, two gibbons with coconut shells and a 5km piece of string... they were doing all right till I started hosting a joke site, now they spend all their time falling out of the trees, so I have to reboot them back up to their post.

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