Arantor

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Re: A question......
« Reply #30, on April 25th, 2011, 11:06 AM »
I thought you were just using some big scary sounding number :P But yeah, that's reasonably depressing when you think about it.
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Re: A question......
« Reply #31, on April 25th, 2011, 11:13 AM »
Even more depressing for the 'loyal' smf fans...

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Re: A question......
« Reply #32, on April 25th, 2011, 11:18 AM »
Quote from techtitan on April 25th, 2011, 11:13 AM
Even more depressing for the 'loyal' smf fans...
That kind of implies we're not loyal. We were, once. Then we were shafted, and the fact that we chose SMF as a base rather than doing something from scratch should tell you something about our loyalty to the platform if not the project.

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Re: A question......
« Reply #33, on April 25th, 2011, 11:23 AM »
Quote from Arantor on April 25th, 2011, 11:18 AM
Quote from techtitan on April 25th, 2011, 11:13 AM
Even more depressing for the 'loyal' smf fans...
That kind of implies we're not loyal. We were, once. Then we were shafted, and the fact that we chose SMF as a base rather than doing something from scratch should tell you something about our loyalty to the platform if not the project.
Eerrr.. sorry if I ticked you  :^^;:  didn't mean to..
I simply meant for us, the general public who used to like smf, bored with the waiting, and probably will not be satisfied to see the release at all...  ^_^

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Re: A question......
« Reply #34, on April 25th, 2011, 11:26 AM »
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and probably will not be satisfied to see the release at all...
I know, right? :P I actually told Kindred this, and he seems to believe that I'm wrong. The team will be glad to see the back of 2.0 final as it heads out the door but the community isn't going to be that impressed.

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Re: A question......
« Reply #35, on April 25th, 2011, 11:39 AM »
I know I'm not much of a php programmer, but when I first use smf back 2005, it was a very impressive software, feature packed yet allow the flexibility of doing some tinkering with it. Now 6 years later when I came back to use it again, what was once the leader of the pack (IMHO) now end up not getting anywhere...coming 2.0 final, I'm for sure will be one of the 'not impressed' people...


p/s: sorry for the rant...if i do it in sm.org i'm sure i'll be banned... :lol:

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Re: A question......
« Reply #36, on April 25th, 2011, 11:41 AM »
It's far less bad than many of the things others have said, hell it's far less bad than some of the stuff I've said to them, and for some reason I'm not banned yet...

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Re: A question......
« Reply #37, on April 25th, 2011, 12:21 PM »
Quote from Arantor on April 25th, 2011, 11:41 AM
It's far less bad than many of the things others have said, hell it's far less bad than some of the stuff I've said to them, and for some reason I'm not banned yet...
Perhaps not that lenient to newbie like me...   :whistle:

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Re: A question......
« Reply #38, on April 25th, 2011, 12:27 PM »
Depends if it's just ranting/trolling for the sake of it, or there's a valid point to be made. You can be sure that if there's a valid point to be made, others will repost it on your behalf.

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Re: A question......
« Reply #39, on April 25th, 2011, 02:35 PM »
It also depends on the way you say it. If you say "SMF is a piece of shit", you'll get a nice ban. But if you say something with an actual argument, it can be taken positively (or get a nice ban).

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Re: A question......
« Reply #40, on April 25th, 2011, 02:48 PM »
Quote from DoctorMalboro on April 25th, 2011, 02:35 PM
It also depends on the way you say it. If you say "SMF is a piece of shit", you'll get a nice ban. But if you say something with an actual argument, it can be taken positively (or get a nice ban).
Or both; taken positively and get a nice ban...  :lol:

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Re: A question......
« Reply #41, on April 25th, 2011, 03:05 PM »
Quote from Arantor on April 25th, 2011, 11:18 AM
That kind of implies we're not loyal. We were, once. Then we were shafted, and the fact that we chose SMF as a base rather than doing something from scratch should tell you something about our loyalty to the platform if not the project.
Yeah... We're loyal to the platform.
*Who* exactly in the SMF team spent the last 8 months doing nothing more than waiting for "the legal stuff to get sorted out"?
*We* weren't sure the legal stuff would get sorted out... Yet, we didn't let that stop us and we worked hard on Wedge.

Come to think of it, really, Wedge *is* SMF, or at least what it's supposed to be in 2011. What's called SMF2 is more of a running gag to me. It's a museum of 2005 techniques that were great at the time -- but irrelevant today.
I think we should all remember that SMF used to be run by first-grade programmers who spent an awful lot of time building a worthy platform. All of these developers have left since then -- many of them are our friends and they're excited about Wedge and what we're doing with it. I'm sure that's because they're extremely disappointed with what the "official" SMF team did with their hard work.

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Re: A question......
« Reply #42, on April 25th, 2011, 03:08 PM »
Quote from Arantor on April 25th, 2011, 11:41 AM
It's far less bad than many of the things others have said, hell it's far less bad than some of the stuff I've said to them, and for some reason I'm not banned yet...
You know why they didn't... They can't cut the branch they're sitting on. If they ban you, they lose their most important support provider. Why would they do their job when they have you to do it for them...?

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Re: A question......
« Reply #43, on April 25th, 2011, 03:23 PM »
Oh, I don't know, I've really cut back my support lately, but it shows you something that even recently I've been at least as active as *multiple people combined* out of their support team.

There's enough people that can deal with the general stuff, but anything of complexity, they're going to be in deeper trouble when I stop posting, because I do have deeper knowledge than most of the team about SMF's innards.

I figure it is only a matter of time before I get banned, though.

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Re: A question......
« Reply #44, on April 25th, 2011, 03:34 PM »
Out of your current behavior other there? As far as I know, were they to ban you, they'd get a very visible community backlash.

Whatever they feel/fear about Wedge, that's their problem, but you don't shoot the messenger.