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Honestly, I haven't the faintest idea about the current state of SMF.
Had I been forced to guess, I'd have said they were advancing at their own speed (i.e. a turtle?), which after all is the reason why I left the SMF dev team to focus on forking it.
Then again, SMF was born around 2003 or so, and it made a lot of progress in 7 years. While it's natural to understand it wouldn't move at a higher pace in the following 10 years (80% of what's need in a forum was already implemented, what else could be done that's not in Wedge already?), it's a bit of a let-down if it's true they haven't done much progress.
ElkArte is a very heavy modification of SMF. It however focused on different areas and isn't really following the same philosophy as Wedge.
Then again their forum also seems to be more active than mine. But obviously it doesn't automatically mean they're advancing faster.
Also, they really need a designer to help with their forum layout, ahah.
I don't consider myself a designer, but my work on the main Wedge theme, I consider better than what Elk and SMF both did. I really wouldn't mind if I found some of it in their software. Come on, even the little details I focused on back in the day, such as doing some JavaScript magic to have user mini-profiles align along their long posts vertically, now that's done with standard CSS -- in this case, position: sticky does the trick.
Anyway. I'm not here to judge anyone. None of us at Wedge, Elk and SMF make money over our work, as far as I know. It's always a passion project. That all 3 of them are still active 10 years after is a testament to how committed we all are.
Had I been forced to guess, I'd have said they were advancing at their own speed (i.e. a turtle?), which after all is the reason why I left the SMF dev team to focus on forking it.
Then again, SMF was born around 2003 or so, and it made a lot of progress in 7 years. While it's natural to understand it wouldn't move at a higher pace in the following 10 years (80% of what's need in a forum was already implemented, what else could be done that's not in Wedge already?), it's a bit of a let-down if it's true they haven't done much progress.
ElkArte is a very heavy modification of SMF. It however focused on different areas and isn't really following the same philosophy as Wedge.
Then again their forum also seems to be more active than mine. But obviously it doesn't automatically mean they're advancing faster.
Also, they really need a designer to help with their forum layout, ahah.
I don't consider myself a designer, but my work on the main Wedge theme, I consider better than what Elk and SMF both did. I really wouldn't mind if I found some of it in their software. Come on, even the little details I focused on back in the day, such as doing some JavaScript magic to have user mini-profiles align along their long posts vertically, now that's done with standard CSS -- in this case, position: sticky does the trick.
Anyway. I'm not here to judge anyone. None of us at Wedge, Elk and SMF make money over our work, as far as I know. It's always a passion project. That all 3 of them are still active 10 years after is a testament to how committed we all are.
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I hereby give permission to the SMF team to backport anything they like from Wedge into SMF, as long as they follow the BSD licence guidelines. Same for ElkArte and its team.
The other one you mentioned here seems like a typical smf 2.1 changed from blue to green colour and then a rather confusing menu icons (very annoying on mobile) in place of simplified text, ie, to non developers anyway.
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I've changed the question asked of new users when they attempt to post. I can't really do much about real people posting advertisements, unfortunately. I'm not going to start moderating messages before they even show up on the website. That'd be silly. Anyway...
Also, as you may have noticed, I posted a fix for Firefox today.
I'm still on the lookout for any changes I need to apply to the software. It's not perfect, but I'm still happy with it.
I haven't changed the license yet, but since it'll eventually be done (I'm still hesitating between license types, but it'll be BSD-compatible anyway), I hereby give permission to the SMF team to backport anything they like from Wedge into SMF, as long as they follow the BSD licence guidelines. Same for ElkArte and its team. I don't know of any other 'major' forks of SMF..?
If you want to tell them, you also can. It's a public discussion, as far as I know. ;-)
Also, as you may have noticed, I posted a fix for Firefox today.
I'm still on the lookout for any changes I need to apply to the software. It's not perfect, but I'm still happy with it.
I haven't changed the license yet, but since it'll eventually be done (I'm still hesitating between license types, but it'll be BSD-compatible anyway), I hereby give permission to the SMF team to backport anything they like from Wedge into SMF, as long as they follow the BSD licence guidelines. Same for ElkArte and its team. I don't know of any other 'major' forks of SMF..?
If you want to tell them, you also can. It's a public discussion, as far as I know. ;-)
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Yes. And I'm planning to re-release it with a MIT license, in the future. (I already secured Arantor's approval, and I think anyone else will be happy about it.)
Meaning if someone wants to fork it and take over, they can.
I'd just be glad to see some of my favorite things, such as the Wess module, being reused elsewhere...
(Note: actually, you can already consider the current version to be MIT, in case you want to start doing something. Disregard the license. If you need to release your fork, you'll have to get in touch with me so that I release the MIT update in the meantime, though!)
Meaning if someone wants to fork it and take over, they can.
I'd just be glad to see some of my favorite things, such as the Wess module, being reused elsewhere...
(Note: actually, you can already consider the current version to be MIT, in case you want to start doing something. Disregard the license. If you need to release your fork, you'll have to get in touch with me so that I release the MIT update in the meantime, though!)
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Well, thanks ;)
I'm still working on it occasionally but if you're looking for mods you're better off using SMF I suppose, even if it's inferior. (Which is a bit sad considering the modding system in Wedge is so much easier to both create and install/update.)
As a reminder, I do most of my Wedge development for https://lestrades.com now, i.e. new features are implemented over there first. If anyone here is interested in a feature I premiered at LT's, I may consider backporting it to Wedge.
I'm still working on it occasionally but if you're looking for mods you're better off using SMF I suppose, even if it's inferior. (Which is a bit sad considering the modding system in Wedge is so much easier to both create and install/update.)
As a reminder, I do most of my Wedge development for https://lestrades.com now, i.e. new features are implemented over there first. If anyone here is interested in a feature I premiered at LT's, I may consider backporting it to Wedge.
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I very randomly stumpled upon Wedge, it ofcourse reminded me so much of SMF, which I love, but this fork looks great aswell, I will try to make a forums on that soon.
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[Commit revision b3396c7]
Author: Nao
Date: Tue, 07 May 2019 16:10:27 +0200
Stats: 2 files changed; +2 (insertions), -2 (deletions)
Date: Tue, 07 May 2019 16:10:27 +0200
Stats: 2 files changed; +2 (insertions), -2 (deletions)
- Removed ellipsis from westr::cut() when $ellipsis was set to false but the string was empty. If it's empty, nothing was cut, so the ellipsis stands for nothing. (Class-String.php)
- Fixed a link to Wedge, just in case. It's not in use for now. (Themes.php)
- PS: And yes, I'm alive and well, and still ready to commit to Wedge at any point. It just so happens that I have no other bugs to fix, and I have no incentives to keep working on implementing new features.
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OK.
With a fresh install I have no issue.
I'll try a more proper migration :whistle:
With a fresh install I have no issue.
I'll try a more proper migration :whistle:
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Nevermind, I repaired my old server :-)
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[Commit revision 1ecc209]
Author: Nao
Date: Wed, 23 May 2018 13:40:23 +0200
Stats: 1 file changed; +5 (insertions), -2 (deletions)
[Commit revision 18c6ad0]
Author: Nao
Date: Wed, 23 May 2018 13:41:05 +0200
Stats: 1 file changed; +13 (insertions), -3 (deletions)
[Commit revision 7f83673]
Author: Nao
Date: Wed, 23 May 2018 13:41:55 +0200
Stats: 2 files changed; +27 (insertions), -14 (deletions)
[Commit revision 31e2141]
Author: Nao
Date: Wed, 23 May 2018 13:45:13 +0200
Stats: 2 files changed; +3 (insertions), -3 (deletions)
[Commit revision 35ed2bf]
Author: Nao
Date: Wed, 23 May 2018 13:46:21 +0200
Stats: 1 file changed; +7 (insertions), -6 (deletions)
[Commit revision 2652bcc]
Author: Nao
Date: Wed, 23 May 2018 13:47:24 +0200
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[Commit revision 55bab3f]
Author: Nao
Date: Wed, 23 May 2018 13:48:07 +0200
Stats: 1 file changed; +7 (insertions), -27 (deletions)
[Commit revision f30b7ef]
Author: Nao
Date: Wed, 23 May 2018 13:49:02 +0200
Stats: 1 file changed; +8 (insertions), -3 (deletions)
[Commit revision 9cd3b98]
Author: Nao
Date: Wed, 23 May 2018 13:50:37 +0200
Stats: 1 file changed; +7 (insertions), -7 (deletions)
[Commit revision 805a359]
Author: Nao
Date: Wed, 23 May 2018 13:51:12 +0200
Stats: 1 file changed; +1 (insertion), -1 (deletion)
[Commit revision 1e2eaf9]
Author: Nao
Date: Wed, 23 May 2018 13:53:14 +0200
Stats: 2 files changed; +11 (insertions), -11 (deletions)
Date: Wed, 23 May 2018 13:40:23 +0200
Stats: 1 file changed; +5 (insertions), -2 (deletions)
- Just a quick debug option in MySQL processing to view complex queries instead of executing them. (Class-DB.php)
- I'm back! Well, I was never gone... Just didn't bother backporting all of my changes.
[Commit revision 18c6ad0]
Date: Wed, 23 May 2018 13:41:05 +0200
Stats: 1 file changed; +13 (insertions), -3 (deletions)
- Added timeout options to the CURL manager. (Class-WebGet.php)
[Commit revision 7f83673]
Date: Wed, 23 May 2018 13:41:55 +0200
Stats: 2 files changed; +27 (insertions), -14 (deletions)
- Extra fixes to handle situations where an error is being shown recursively. (Errors.php, Subs-Template.php)
[Commit revision 31e2141]
Date: Wed, 23 May 2018 13:45:13 +0200
Stats: 2 files changed; +3 (insertions), -3 (deletions)
- Harmonizing http to https links for wedge.org, even if not exactly 'followed'. (Feed.php, Themes.php)
[Commit revision 35ed2bf]
Date: Wed, 23 May 2018 13:46:21 +0200
Stats: 1 file changed; +7 (insertions), -6 (deletions)
- Very minor session changes that have always worked fine on Lestrade's, so I'm guessing they're good enough for production. (Load.php)
[Commit revision 2652bcc]
Date: Wed, 23 May 2018 13:47:24 +0200
Stats: 1 file changed; +2 (insertions), -1 (deletion)
- Added support for APCU in APC cache system detection. Not sure if I need to change something else... I don't remember. I don't really use those on my server. (ManageServer.php)
[Commit revision 55bab3f]
Date: Wed, 23 May 2018 13:48:07 +0200
Stats: 1 file changed; +7 (insertions), -27 (deletions)
- Used wesql::get() instead of query() on some outdated queries. (Stats.php)
[Commit revision f30b7ef]
Date: Wed, 23 May 2018 13:49:02 +0200
Stats: 1 file changed; +8 (insertions), -3 (deletions)
- Protecting "content: url(...)" from being screwed up by Wess. (Subs-Cache.php)
[Commit revision 9cd3b98]
Date: Wed, 23 May 2018 13:50:37 +0200
Stats: 1 file changed; +7 (insertions), -7 (deletions)
- This is more of a test than anything else... (?) Using ENT_NOQUOTES here and there when generating e-mails, instead of ENT_QUOTES or the default setting. Again, this has been in use for a long time on Lestrade's with no issues. I don't remember why I made that change but I'm sure it was for the best. (Subs-Post.php)
[Commit revision 805a359]
Date: Wed, 23 May 2018 13:51:12 +0200
Stats: 1 file changed; +1 (insertion), -1 (deletion)
- Thought likes notifications require BBC parsing. (Likes.php)
[Commit revision 1e2eaf9]
Date: Wed, 23 May 2018 13:53:14 +0200
Stats: 2 files changed; +11 (insertions), -11 (deletions)
- Reordering some HTML parameters for easier HTML buffer post-processing. Maybe one day I'll move over all of my Lestrades.com code to Wedge so you can see what I meant. (ManageModeration.template.php, ManagePlugins.template.php)