My Journey with Wedge.

Nao

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Re: My Journey with Wedge.
« Reply #30, on May 11th, 2019, 01:45 PM »
I don't know much about Xen, except that's it's commercial, so it's not exactly playing in the same field as Wedge does...
I have no idea how Xen 2 would be much better than Wedge, either.
I've been using Wedge for several years on Lestrades.com (my main activity these days, although once again not a paid one...), and every time I have an issue (or need something), I fix it and commit it to Wedge. Let's be clear, it hasn't happened a lot!
Thus, I don't really know what you mean by 'couldn't get a lot of things to work for me'... They work for everybody. Of course, everybody needs their own tweaks here and there, but it's easy to do. Especially with a base such as Wedge, that doesn't change a lot, and also allows you to customize it fully without having to change any base files.
I don't know.
I don't even know what 'prosulation' means. ;)
What I know is that I'm still proud of the software, yes. Especially as free open source software that I never built with plans to get rich.
Posted: May 11th, 2019, 01:34 PM

PS: I just realized your message was a reaction to my previous one. Sorry about that, I didn't understand why you were trying to discuss XF here. ;-)

mark435

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Re: My Journey with Wedge.
« Reply #31, on August 6th, 2019, 05:57 PM »
I very randomly stumpled upon Wedge, it ofcourse reminded me so much of SMF, which I love, but this fork looks great aswell, I will try to make a forums on that soon.

Nao

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Re: My Journey with Wedge.
« Reply #32, on September 10th, 2019, 01:20 PM »
Well, thanks ;)
I'm still working on it occasionally but if you're looking for mods you're better off using SMF I suppose, even if it's inferior. (Which is a bit sad considering the modding system in Wedge is so much easier to both create and install/update.)
As a reminder, I do most of my Wedge development for https://lestrades.com now, i.e. new features are implemented over there first. If anyone here is interested in a feature I premiered at LT's, I may consider backporting it to Wedge.

forumovod

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Re: My Journey with Wedge.
« Reply #33,  »
Hi! Is the wedge project still alive? Is it compatible with PHP 7.2 ?
Forum for forum owners https://forumovod.ru

Nao

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Re: My Journey with Wedge.
« Reply #34,  »
Yes it's still alive in the sense that if you can get in touch with me (e.g. lestrades.com or Steam account), I can fix bugs as reported.
It's no longer alive as in 'I'm not going to add new major features to the software', and probably no minor features either. This is the users' job, I guess: the plugin system is really solid, it's very easy to port SMF 2.x mods to Wedge, and Wedge-only mods are way funnier to build (because they work on cached versions of the files, so you can for instance re-download a clean copy of a base file, modify it yourself, and the mods will still be applied to them as soon as you upload the file to your server.)

I don't know about 7.2 compatibility, but this is the kind of thing that I tend to update Wedge for.
I know I should release an 'official' version 1.0, and perhaps even finally change the license to MIT overall (it's been my intention for a few years now), but given that it's not a generally well known forum package, it seems like it'd be a waste of time. I don't know. Do you?

forumovod

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Re: My Journey with Wedge.
« Reply #35,  »
I'm not a programmer or a mod developer. I have a desire to find a modern forum engine for migrating from SMF 2.0 because release 2.1 has stopped in development.
But I don't want to migrate to another forum engine that has also stopped developing as SMF 2.1

I liked the Russian translation of your forum engine description here:  dragomano.ru/articles/wedge

"Wedge, the first modification of the original SMF forum, is an alternative for fans of not just forums, but all-in-one blogs.

Enhanced security, UTF8 support, and out-of-the-box add-ons. Instead of modifications, Wedge uses the term "plugin". Plug-ins are enabled and disabled with a single button."

sasha-wedge

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Re: My Journey with Wedge.
« Reply #36,  »
Quote from Nao on August 29th, 2020, 12:38 PM
...it's very easy to port SMF 2.x mods to Wedge...
Wedge is the finest build! She just admires me! And I really want to use it, but I am stopped by the lack of some functions I need. Is it possible to make an instruction on this, understandable even for beginners. This will help many people use the wedge. Thanks!

Nao

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Re: My Journey with Wedge.
« Reply #37,  »
I'm afraid the project isn't really a priority for me any more...
I'm only dropping by occasionally, just to make sure nobody has found any bugs I wasn't aware of.

I think there's a sample mod somewhere to demonstrate how to convert from SMF2, but honestly, I'm not even _sure_ about that.
Surprisingly, doing the conversion work was very quick & easy, and I just didn't spend a lot of time on it.
Re: My Journey with Wedge.
« Reply #38,  »
I've changed the question asked of new users when they attempt to post. I can't really do much about real people posting advertisements, unfortunately. I'm not going to start moderating messages before they even show up on the website. That'd be silly. Anyway...

Also, as you may have noticed, I posted a fix for Firefox today.
I'm still on the lookout for any changes I need to apply to the software. It's not perfect, but I'm still happy with it.

I haven't changed the license yet, but since it'll eventually be done (I'm still hesitating between license types, but it'll be BSD-compatible anyway), I hereby give permission to the SMF team to backport anything they like from Wedge into SMF, as long as they follow the BSD licence guidelines. Same for ElkArte and its team. I don't know of any other 'major' forks of SMF..?

If you want to tell them, you also can. It's a public discussion, as far as I know. ;-)

Wanchope

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Re: My Journey with Wedge.
« Reply #39,  »
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I hereby give permission to the SMF team to backport anything they like from Wedge into SMF, as long as they follow the BSD licence guidelines. Same for ElkArte and its team.
This is impressive and rather selfless. I think smf should port the entire project to this as it's the only way of saving herself from the alarming embarrassment. The software is 'confidently' sitting 10 years in the past with little or no concern on what's next.

The other one you mentioned here seems like a typical smf 2.1 changed from blue to green colour and then a rather confusing menu icons (very annoying on mobile) in place of simplified text, ie, to non developers anyway.

Nao

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Re: My Journey with Wedge.
« Reply #40,  »
Honestly, I haven't the faintest idea about the current state of SMF.
Had I been forced to guess, I'd have said they were advancing at their own speed (i.e. a turtle?), which after all is the reason why I left the SMF dev team to focus on forking it.
Then again, SMF was born around 2003 or so, and it made a lot of progress in 7 years. While it's natural to understand it wouldn't move at a higher pace in the following 10 years (80% of what's need in a forum was already implemented, what else could be done that's not in Wedge already?), it's a bit of a let-down if it's true they haven't done much progress.

ElkArte is a very heavy modification of SMF. It however focused on different areas and isn't really following the same philosophy as Wedge.
Then again their forum also seems to be more active than mine. But obviously it doesn't automatically mean they're advancing faster.
Also, they really need a designer to help with their forum layout, ahah.
I don't consider myself a designer, but my work on the main Wedge theme, I consider better than what Elk and SMF both did. I really wouldn't mind if I found some of it in their software. Come on, even the little details I focused on back in the day, such as doing some JavaScript magic to have user mini-profiles align along their long posts vertically, now that's done with standard CSS -- in this case, position: sticky does the trick.

Anyway. I'm not here to judge anyone. None of us at Wedge, Elk and SMF make money over our work, as far as I know. It's always a passion project. That all 3 of them are still active 10 years after is a testament to how committed we all are.

Wanchope

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Re: My Journey with Wedge.
« Reply #41,  »
Quote from Nao on April 24th, 11:04 AM
Honestly, I haven't the faintest idea about the current state of SMF.
Had I been forced to guess, I'd have said they were advancing at their own speed (i.e. a turtle?), which after all is the reason why I left the SMF dev team to focus on forking it.
Then again, SMF was born around 2003 or so, and it made a lot of progress in 7 years. While it's natural to understand it wouldn't move at a higher pace in the following 10 years (80% of what's need in a forum was already implemented, what else could be done that's not in Wedge already?), it's a bit of a let-down if it's true they haven't done much progress.

ElkArte is a very heavy modification of SMF. It however focused on different areas and isn't really following the same philosophy as Wedge.
Then again their forum also seems to be more active than mine. But obviously it doesn't automatically mean they're advancing faster.
Also, they really need a designer to help with their forum layout, ahah.
I don't consider myself a designer, but my work on the main Wedge theme, I consider better than what Elk and SMF both did. I really wouldn't mind if I found some of it in their software. Come on, even the little details I focused on back in the day, such as doing some JavaScript magic to have user mini-profiles align along their long posts vertically, now that's done with standard CSS -- in this case, position: sticky does the trick.

Anyway. I'm not here to judge anyone. None of us at Wedge, Elk and SMF make money over our work, as far as I know. It's always a passion project. That all 3 of them are still active 10 years after is a testament to how committed we all are.
Have heard ElkArte, a heavy modification of smf 2.1 but really do not see it. At least not by the appearance. Not that I'm not giving them any credit though.

SMF has not made a single progress for close to 10 years now, unless you mean invincible progress.
If they are not up in being free why not made it paid software and join the market properly?
For goodness sake even phpbb is fully responsive. Nothing to worry about though, serious forum owners will opt to pay for the likes of Xenforo anyway.