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FAQs / [FAQ] Re: What is Wedge?
« on November 18th, 2011, 04:48 PM »
The truth is that it's going to take as long as it takes. There's dates we'd love to hit but if we go by dates, rather than when we feel it is ready, it's going to go awry.
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FAQs / [FAQ] Re: What is Wedge?
« on November 18th, 2011, 11:42 AM »
What, the day after Windows 8 is scheduled?
(Yes, that's right, Windows 8's scheduled ship date is the day 'before the Apocalypse'. Now you know what causes it.)
(Yes, that's right, Windows 8's scheduled ship date is the day 'before the Apocalypse'. Now you know what causes it.)
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Other software / Re: No 501 status on SMF yet?
« on November 17th, 2011, 11:29 PM »
Yes, it is long. But it's not so long that it takes *months* to compile the paperwork for this. Weeks, perhaps, but not months.
And if there is a lack of time and/or skill, get an outside party to do it. There are legal firms who will offer discounted rates (or even do it pro bono) to NPOs. I appreciate that you're trying smooth relations on all sides, and that's no easy task, but 1) you're doing a better job of it than the 'marketing' people[1] and 2) it's a virtually indefensible position anyway: 14 months is too long for this to occur, plain and simple, that's not that far off from a page a month.
There's no reason why it couldn't just be handed over to an accountant, paperworks, receipts, everything and have them file it on your behalf, the form even has specific provisions for this. Even if it isn't done pro bono, it would still likely be cheaper than the tax rebate that would come back in consequence.
And if there is a lack of time and/or skill, get an outside party to do it. There are legal firms who will offer discounted rates (or even do it pro bono) to NPOs. I appreciate that you're trying smooth relations on all sides, and that's no easy task, but 1) you're doing a better job of it than the 'marketing' people[1] and 2) it's a virtually indefensible position anyway: 14 months is too long for this to occur, plain and simple, that's not that far off from a page a month.
There's no reason why it couldn't just be handed over to an accountant, paperworks, receipts, everything and have them file it on your behalf, the form even has specific provisions for this. Even if it isn't done pro bono, it would still likely be cheaper than the tax rebate that would come back in consequence.
| 1. | No, seriously, you're doing a better job of raising SMF's image from malcontents like me than the designated marketing people are. This strikes me as a problem because marketing isn't just about promoting a brand, it's also dealing with problems that crop up. |
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Off-topic / Re: PHP IDE for windows
« on November 17th, 2011, 10:15 PM »
LSBs are kind of voodoo, it doesn't surprise me that Zend would be the only one to support it.
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Other software / Re: No 501 status on SMF yet?
« on November 17th, 2011, 10:14 PM »
See for yourself: http://www.irs.gov/pub/irs-pdf/f1023.pdf
It isn't actually that scary, it's just full of standard legalese.
It isn't actually that scary, it's just full of standard legalese.
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Other software / Re: No 501 status on SMF yet?
« on November 17th, 2011, 06:08 PM »I am sure he would be able to help.
The situation of Simple Machines is more complicated. More expenses, more domain names, more stuff, more moving parts, more history.
More domain names: should be irrelevant. As far as I know, only two domains are held by SM NPO, but that's ultimately a justified organisational expense, and so goes into the above as another line on the balance sheet.
More stuff: certainly. The problem I'm having is that the more I look at it, the more I'm thinking 'more stuff to find excuses for'. This is the part that's an issue: for an organisation that swore it would have more transparency, it isn't doing a good job of this.
More moving parts: wouldn't have thought it would have made that much difference. At the end of the day, if there is a problem with filing the document, either it should be handed over to a suitably qualified accountant to arrange, or someone should be contacting the IRS for advice. Right now I get the impression, however accurately or not, that it's being sat on because it's 'too hard'.
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Other software / Re: No 501 status on SMF yet?
« on November 17th, 2011, 04:05 PM »
Thing is, there are people in the environment who have successfully applied for 501(c)3 in the past, if I recall... specifically I'm thinking of Thantos when he applied for it for Yourasoft, wouldn't he be able to help?
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Features / Re: Recents posts as formerly on the board index
« on November 17th, 2011, 01:47 PM »
OK, just as a heads-up, I've rewritten it as a plugin to use 2/3 queries (there's one query to get message ids in recent posts, one to get message ids in recent topics, and one to get the actual data, and it seems to be faster now, too) so I've also committed the removal of the rest of it and will drop the plugin into the repo shortly.
Not sure exactly what I want to do with it just yet but the fact it's a plugin makes it much easier to do magicalness with.
Not sure exactly what I want to do with it just yet but the fact it's a plugin makes it much easier to do magicalness with.
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Features / Re: New revs
« on November 17th, 2011, 01:45 PM »
(forgot to note the size, 13 modified, 1 removed)
Revision: 1168
Author: arantor
Date: 17 November 2011 12:45:03
Message:
! Remove the 'recent items' widget from the sidebar in the info center. It can be better supported in other ways, like being a plugin. And being a theme option, it also has tendrils elsewhere in the system, mostly to ensure that it isn't accidentally overridden by users who have their own preferences... Also, Subs-Recent.php appears to be solely for the purpose of getting last posts - but is only actually used there as far as can be determined, so it's removed. (install.sql, Boards.php, JSOption.php, Load.php, Profile-Modify.php, Subs-Members.php, Welcome.php, Subs-Recent.php, InfoCenter.template.php, Settings.template.php, language files: index, Themes)
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Modified : /trunk/Sources/Boards.php
Modified : /trunk/Sources/JSOption.php
Modified : /trunk/Sources/Load.php
Modified : /trunk/Sources/Profile-Modify.php
Modified : /trunk/Sources/Subs-Members.php
Deleted : /trunk/Sources/Subs-Recent.php
Modified : /trunk/Sources/Welcome.php
Modified : /trunk/Themes/default/InfoCenter.template.php
Modified : /trunk/Themes/default/Settings.template.php
Modified : /trunk/Themes/default/languages/Themes.english.php
Modified : /trunk/Themes/default/languages/Themes.french.php
Modified : /trunk/Themes/default/languages/index.english.php
Modified : /trunk/Themes/default/languages/index.french.php
Modified : /trunk/other/install.sql
Revision: 1168
Author: arantor
Date: 17 November 2011 12:45:03
Message:
! Remove the 'recent items' widget from the sidebar in the info center. It can be better supported in other ways, like being a plugin. And being a theme option, it also has tendrils elsewhere in the system, mostly to ensure that it isn't accidentally overridden by users who have their own preferences... Also, Subs-Recent.php appears to be solely for the purpose of getting last posts - but is only actually used there as far as can be determined, so it's removed. (install.sql, Boards.php, JSOption.php, Load.php, Profile-Modify.php, Subs-Members.php, Welcome.php, Subs-Recent.php, InfoCenter.template.php, Settings.template.php, language files: index, Themes)
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Modified : /trunk/Sources/Boards.php
Modified : /trunk/Sources/JSOption.php
Modified : /trunk/Sources/Load.php
Modified : /trunk/Sources/Profile-Modify.php
Modified : /trunk/Sources/Subs-Members.php
Deleted : /trunk/Sources/Subs-Recent.php
Modified : /trunk/Sources/Welcome.php
Modified : /trunk/Themes/default/InfoCenter.template.php
Modified : /trunk/Themes/default/Settings.template.php
Modified : /trunk/Themes/default/languages/Themes.english.php
Modified : /trunk/Themes/default/languages/Themes.french.php
Modified : /trunk/Themes/default/languages/index.english.php
Modified : /trunk/Themes/default/languages/index.french.php
Modified : /trunk/other/install.sql
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Features / Re: Recents posts as formerly on the board index
« on November 17th, 2011, 01:18 PM »
OK, so I've pulled out the recent posts into its own little plugin and given it, sort of, the ability to order by topic except it's currently doing it wrong, gah.
It's not just as simple as shoving a group-by in there :(
It's not just as simple as shoving a group-by in there :(
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Plugins / Re: Readability
« on November 17th, 2011, 08:53 AM »
Pffft, writing this plugin should take a short amount of time; if it takes any more than 15 minutes in SMF, it's being done wrong.
Wedge on the other hand has to tackle it slightly differently, because their embed code is... um... unusual and I'm not entirely clear why it's being done the way it is. It's still probably 15 minutes but I need to test it to make sure it won't break anything else.
(That's using the basic integration. Using the full on API is naturally more complex.)
Wedge on the other hand has to tackle it slightly differently, because their embed code is... um... unusual and I'm not entirely clear why it's being done the way it is. It's still probably 15 minutes but I need to test it to make sure it won't break anything else.
(That's using the basic integration. Using the full on API is naturally more complex.)
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Other software / Re: No 501 status on SMF yet?
« on November 17th, 2011, 08:49 AM »
It means that they won't be paying taxes on the income generated from Charter memberships and advertising. It was at least enough to cover the hosting costs (which, remember, is on a collection of servers that they own and that reside in a datacenter, which means it ain't cheap)
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Features / Re: Thought system
« on November 16th, 2011, 11:19 PM »
I'll take a look in a bit; Safari was the one main system I hadn't tested it on.
I opined elsewhere that part of the problem with SMF's fixes to this problem is that they didn't have a battery of tests to work on, meaning that they were fumbling around in the dark trying to find directions. In the same discussion, I noted that the list of tests to be carried out is:Quote In fact I realise I missed single and double quotes off the list but " is not valid in most systems' filenames anyway. (And in the code I wrote, it would be safely rawurlencode'd anyway)
I opined elsewhere that part of the problem with SMF's fixes to this problem is that they didn't have a battery of tests to work on, meaning that they were fumbling around in the dark trying to find directions. In the same discussion, I noted that the list of tests to be carried out is:
* A filename with no special characters or symbols other than file delimiter (file.txt)
* A filename with 7-bit symbols characters, but no spaces and no + (file_test.txt, file-test.txt)
* A filename with 7 bit characters, and a space (file test.txt)
* A filename with 7 bit characters, and a + (file+test.txt)
* A filename with 7 bit characters, and a space and a + (file test+results.txt)
* A filename with high bit characters (any ISO encoding, on ISO encoded forum) (file™.txt)
* A filename with high bit characters and a space (ISO encoding) (file name™.txt)
* A filename with high bit characters and + (ISO) (file+test™.txt)
* A filename with high bit characters and a space and + (ISO) (file test+results™.txt)
All of the high bit character tests will then need to be repeated on a UTF-8 forum with UTF-8 encoded filenames, and if any of the 7 bit tests fail, there is no point with the high bit tests until the 7 bit tests pass.
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Features / Re: Thought system
« on November 16th, 2011, 12:53 PM »That seems to be in line with what I suggested..? What exactly is there to clear up between our visions of the thing?
Also, regarding rev 1165... I must admit I haven't followed any developments regarding this bug. I had a quick look this morning, and apparently it's a subject that's been discussed at the AeMe topic at sm.org these last few days, with a weird fix posted, and I'm not even sure what your fix does, whatever, over at sm.org it seems the problems are with Firefox 8 and here they're with IE9...?!
There's the Content-Disposition header, which is supposed to indicate what the browser is supposed to do with the content that follows, except the specification pretty much states it should be ASCII characters only. Which is fine, right up until you have high bit characters in the name, which in non English forums is more common than you'd think. So there is a quasi-extension that's now pretty much standardised which allows a content provider to state that the data is really UTF-8, except browser support is quirky for it.
The original code in SMF issues separate different headers for IE, Firefox and Opera, I changed that a year ago to IE and everyone else.
Now, the problem is that IE9 got its act together and doesn't like the header being used for IE because it's special, ugly and it wants to conform with the in-crowd. Trouble is, Wedge recognises IE9 as IE (and SMF does not), so it was given the IE specific codepath which spits out the wrong filename on IE9. So the first change was to make the IE-only code path into IE8 and down.
The second change is that FF8 stopped accepting the otherwise-standard header, it would ignore the filename entirely because it didn't like the quote in the name. So the quote has to be changed for another delimiter, which caused it to start choking on spaces and other things, so the entire thing has to be urlencoded and it must also include spaces in that to be %20, rather than +, hence the rawurlencode call.
As far as I can tell, this works properly on all the big browsers. I'm not so sure it would work so well for SMF even though I gave the few lines in question to be reposted; there was a rather curt "this is the same fix I posted" note, except that it isn't, for several reasons (my fix doesn't bother to differentiate ISO and UTF-8, and I don't have a special case for FF, merely IE8 and down - when they get round to listing IE9, they'll have to fix it again, but hey, what do I know?)
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Off-topic / Re: Doctor Who
« on November 16th, 2011, 02:48 AM »
I'd personally rather have Eleven's sonic cane :D