Notice: Undefined index: search_date_posted in
Subs-BBC.php on line
1731
Notice: Undefined index: search_date_posted in
Subs-BBC.php on line
1731
Notice: Undefined index: search_date_posted in
Subs-BBC.php on line
1731
- Espada
-
-
- Posts: 204
You started mentioning Microsoft's occasional slowness when fixing bugs, but it's irrelevant for non-Microsoft software? Interesting.
My word yes... In IT we have to base our decisions on what to fix by Severity (in fact this is also the way that Hospitals work also) and if the issue is severe enough it is given more attention, and receives fixes quicker (also like Hospitals, yes I worked in one).
The thing with most of the "Microsoft Security Bugs" is that they usually allow an intruder to enter your PC and "own it" if you will, how many people "owned" computers through this "non Microsoft bug"? It also exasperates the problem that M$ operating systems have a majority market share which increases the attack visibility (where as this is not so much of an issue for Xorg).
What would be the priority in a busy hospital? And where would those priorities lie?
"I pricked my finger and need a bandaid" ~ Xorg
"Someone cut my arm off... HALP" ~ M$
While i'd love to live in a world where bugs don't exist and everyone lives in "Happy Fantasy Land", this is not the case and priorities are needed some times.
There's no such thing as "secure enough" in the post-Snowden era.
Where did you get your tin-foil hat and where can I get one? The ignorance looks to be bliss.
Not putting miles on your Ferrari is like not having sex with your Girlfriend so she'll be more desirable to her next Boyfriend
Notice: Undefined index: search_date_posted in
Subs-BBC.php on line
1731
The thing with most of the "Microsoft Security Bugs" is that they usually allow an intruder to enter your PC
(And that's just the kernel!)
the problem that M$ operating systems have a majority market share
Leaving your "M$" flame aside (HALP! MICRO$OFT WANTS TO MAKE MONEY WITH THEIR PRODUCTS! BURN THEM!), guess the Linux market share on smartphones and servers - both are much more interesting targets than ordinary desktops. Then talk again.
Where did you get your tin-foil hat and where can I get one?
Knowing that government agencies are able to access all of my data if I'm not "paranoid" enough, does that make me a bad guy?
Notice: Undefined index: search_date_posted in
Subs-BBC.php on line
1731
- Espada
-
-
- Posts: 204
*shrugs*, they all have similar vulnerabilities.
Leaving your "M$" flame aside (HALP! MICRO$OFT WANTS TO MAKE MONEY WITH THEIR PRODUCTS! BURN THEM!), guess the Linux market share on smartphones and servers - both are much more interesting targets than ordinary desktops. Then talk again.
How am I flaming? My main PC is a Windows box, which I have been happily using for years. And yes, they still have a bigger desktop market share, and no there are not the same level of attacks on Mobile Devices / Linux etc.
Knowing that government agencies are able to access all of my data if I'm not "paranoid" enough, does that make me a bad guy?
They have access to that information regardless, you think they are going to target you specifically? The "Government Agency is going to steal your identity!!!" Wake up mate.
Notice: Undefined index: search_date_posted in
Subs-BBC.php on line
1731
they all have similar vulnerabilities.
Precisely, so Linux is not a better choice than Windows from a technical POV.
they still have a bigger desktop market share, and no there are not the same level of attacks on Mobile Devices / Linux etc.
Of course not: As Windows has gathered a pretty lot of exploit mitigation techniques since Windows Vista, mobile devices and servers are not only more interesting for those collecting personal data, they even are easier to intrude.
They have access to that information regardless
Depends. They can go and try to break my OpenBSD box (double-encrypted). Good luck.
you think they are going to target you specifically?
They don't need to target me in order to gather my data if I'm not cautious enough. They target
everyone.
^ This.
Notice: Undefined index: search_date_posted in
Subs-BBC.php on line
1731
- Espada
-
-
- Posts: 204
Precisely, so Linux is not a better choice than Windows from a technical POV.
No one said it was, the OP asked if anyone does use it. Like I have said multiple times, personal preference.
Of course not: As Windows has gathered a pretty lot of exploit mitigation techniques since Windows Vista, mobile devices and servers are not only more interesting for those collecting personal data, they even are easier to intrude.
But not done often, how easy it
could be is irrelevant.
Depends. They can go and try to break my OpenBSD box (double-encrypted). Good luck.
*shrug* Whatever floats your boat mate.
They don't need to target me in order to gather my data if I'm not cautious enough. They target everyone.
Target them for
what?
*shrug*
Notice: Undefined index: search_date_posted in
Subs-BBC.php on line
1731
Wrong. Many large bot nets consist of captured Linux servers.
Notice: Undefined index: search_date_posted in
Subs-BBC.php on line
1731
-
-
- Posts: 343
Wrong. Many large bot nets consist of captured Linux servers.
And more consist of captured windows boxes. You can even hack freebsd boxes. But often its not the fault of the os, but of the admin. And no os helps agains a bad admin, so this discussion is not only completely off topic but also totally pointless. No one, not even you, cares about which OS is more secure. The main difference between windows and linux is that its a lot easier to gain admin rights on windows than on linux. To exploit it from outside none of both is really vulnerable. Software is but not the OS (if we talk about the "big" os'es).
You are not able to talk about an OS without some dumbass trying to show why his os decision is so much better. Really, no one cares about which OS you use.
But to get back to the topic, im always struggling a bit with the desktop environment. As mentioned before im using cinnamon in the moment. Im happy with it, but not to happy
:D Thought about trying the new xfce version but my system has problems with the testing repos of archlinux... And when we talk about distributions, we often talk about desktops. So which one do you prefer?
Notice: Undefined index: search_date_posted in
Subs-BBC.php on line
1731
And more consist of captured windows boxes.
What is your source?
Really, no one cares about which OS you use.
I'd call this a brave thought, given it's posted in a thread about "who of you uses a certain OS?"...
And when we talk about distributions, we often talk about desktops. So which one do you prefer?
Technically, bspwm (but I'm stuck with awesome wm yet because I'm still not done configuring bspwm).
Notice: Undefined index: search_date_posted in
Subs-BBC.php on line
1731
- Espada
-
-
- Posts: 204
And more consist of captured windows boxes. You can even hack freebsd boxes. But often its not the fault of the os, but of the admin. And no os helps agains a bad admin, so this discussion is not only completely off topic but also totally pointless. No one, not even you, cares about which OS is more secure. The main difference between windows and linux is that its a lot easier to gain admin rights on windows than on linux. To exploit it from outside none of both is really vulnerable. Software is but not the OS (if we talk about the "big" os'es).
This
You are not able to talk about an OS without some dumbass trying to show why his os decision is so much better. Really, no one cares about which OS you use.
It happens often
But to get back to the topic, im always struggling a bit with the desktop environment. As mentioned before im using cinnamon in the moment. Im happy with it, but not to happy :D Thought about trying the new xfce version but my system has problems with the testing repos of archlinux... And when we talk about distributions, we often talk about desktops. So which one do you prefer?
I tried Cinnamon, it seems ok (but it does freeze randomly, I think it's because I have no swap drive / file), was going to try Awesome but I ended up going back to my MacBook so I could talk to my friends on mumble (and play PS3 GTA).
I'd call this a brave thought, given it's posted in a thread about "who of you uses a certain OS?"...
It asked if you use a certain OS, since you don't why bash it on the thread!
Notice: Undefined index: search_date_posted in
Subs-BBC.php on line
1731
-
-
- Great Britain's Eurovision result...arghhhh !!
- Posts: 140
Changing to Linux was one of the best day's work I ever did. Mint, Mate and Xfce, Zorin Lite, Bodhi plus always willing to experiment with other distros - Marvellous.
Farewell product keys, activation codes, constant techno-nagging, having to prove my innocence that what I'm using is a legal copy, what seems hours spending updating, not to mention Microsoft's greedy mates at Symantec, McAfee et al, plus my credit card is now on permanent holiday.
I do occasionally use older versions of Windows for some software eg. Arcsoft VHS to DVD transfer or some hardware eg. Canon scanner or Lexmark multi-purpose machines because those companies flatly refuse not only to build drivers for freesource systems but also refuse to release the source codes so said drivers can be built by a third party.
I find Linux to be overall lighter, faster, considerably more reliable, stable and secure though I also use Clamav just in case plus Very sophisticated control over the system can be exercised via the command line and shell.
Notice: Undefined index: search_date_posted in
Subs-BBC.php on line
1731
- Dadman with a boy
-
-
- Posts: 16,082
Yeah... On a daily basis, I think it's easier to circumvent the naggers than adapt to the peculiarities of Linux.
Notice: Undefined index: search_date_posted in
Subs-BBC.php on line
1731
-
-
- Posts: 343
Yeah... On a daily basis, I think it's easier to circumvent the naggers than adapt to the peculiarities of Linux.
Sometimes peculiarities are benefits
:angel:Stick to the tool/os which gets shit done best for you. That's what matters
:lol:
Notice: Undefined index: search_date_posted in
Subs-BBC.php on line
1731
The naggers of Linux (systemd, PulseAudio, the arrogant community, the general lack of security audits - ex.: OpenSSL, bash, ... - and many others) are only a small fraction of the reasons why I don't use Linux. <_<
