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Re: Don't know if I shared it publicly or not
« Reply #30 on February 17th, 01:42 PM »
What I might as well do, actually, is move both the changelogs to the attic with the formatting code ;)
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Re: Don't know if I shared it publicly or not
« Reply #31 on February 17th, 03:12 PM »
OK so I've removed almost all the code relating to the about page, but there is one piece of information in there that isn't anywhere else at present: the list of who can manage/moderate the gallery (and the gallery moderation page reuses the same code/template)

So for the moment I'm just leaving that present and removing the rest of the stuff pending figuring out where to put it.
Posted: February 17th, 03:08 PM

Oh, and the 'installed on' date is a bystander in this too. Either we should keep it and make it a general setting (and put it in the admin panel more broadly) or we should drop it entirely.
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Re: Don't know if I shared it publicly or not
« Reply #32 on February 17th, 05:27 PM »
- I don't believe it's important to list these persons there... Maybe, maybe, we could put them in the credits page? You know, in the first part of the page... But only if one of them wasn't listed before (i.e. not a mod/admin.) Then we list everyone.

- Speaking of credits... I did say I didn't want to keep the AeMe copyright stuff. Karl Benson and Dragooon are already credited as consultants in the credits page (and they're here to stay), and they're credited in the individual files where needed. I think my name is already too much on that credits page, especially in the French version where it's added one more time... :P

- 'Installed on' is really a freebie from Dragooon, I believe. It can go. It's here to find out when a forum was installed: take the date of the very first post (regardless of permissions)... If it's the automatic post by Wedge, then it's the real install date. Otherwise, it's the real 'first use' date, which to me is more interesting. This could go into the Stats page...
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Re: Don't know if I shared it publicly or not
« Reply #33 on February 17th, 05:36 PM »
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You know, in the first part of the page...
Well, it would normally only be shown to people who have access to the AeMe admin or moderate panels, i.e. people who can already see it anyway, so it doesn't need to be there. But somewhere where it lists who can approve would be useful - I'm just not keen on it being publicly visible (which it would be in the credits page)... perhaps in the Media permissions page?

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I did say I didn't want to keep the AeMe copyright stuff.
I know, but when I first removed it, it somehow felt like it had devalued the work that had been put in, you know? I'm just a bit fussy about making sure people get due recognition.

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This could go into the Stats page...
Well, it would be trivial enough to capture the date on install and push it into settings rather than amSettings and then display it there. Heck, it's not as if forum age is something people don't always want to see, it's a mod that's done the rounds a few times.


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Re: Don't know if I shared it publicly or not
« Reply #34 on February 17th, 05:52 PM »
Quote from Arantor on February 17th, 05:36 PM
Well, it would normally only be shown to people who have access to the AeMe admin or moderate panels, i.e. people who can already see it anyway, so it doesn't need to be there. But somewhere where it lists who can approve would be useful - I'm just not keen on it being publicly visible (which it would be in the credits page)... perhaps in the Media permissions page?
Nah.
Why don't you want it to be visible to all?
Gallery moderators should be known. First of all, it gives a sense of responsibility to them. Also, sometimes a visible credit is pretty much the only way you're gonna get "paid" for your volunteer work, so you might as well credit everyone on a specific site...
Are you trying to say that you don't want the credits page to list the forum moderators, either...?

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I know, but when I first removed it, it somehow felt like it had devalued the work that had been put in, you know? I'm just a bit fussy about making sure people get due recognition.
I see. You'd feel more comfortable if I removed it myself, right? ;)

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Well, it would be trivial enough to capture the date on install and push it into settings rather than amSettings and then display it there.
If we're going to display it, yes. Otherwise, no need to capture it.
OTOH -- could be made even simpler... Since Wedge gets a list of monthly stats, why not simply give the first month of activity in the first stats area...? It's something that's already calculated, innit? Or maybe it's just the year... Not sure.
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Re: Don't know if I shared it publicly or not
« Reply #35 on February 17th, 05:57 PM »
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Are you trying to say that you don't want the credits page to list the forum moderators, either...?
There's one important difference that comes into play. Generally, forum admins/moderators will have a badge. Gallery moderators may or may not have a badge. So you may be making them better known than they might otherwise.

If you're going to credit their work, you'll give them a badge and we'll figure out something to make them visible, but if you don't want to give them a badge because it's a stealth role (and that does happen), or because a large number of people have the power to approve, it makes the credits page bigger - and probably slower, too.

I'm tempted to suggest we don't list anyone on there and have a proper staff page with contact options but I don't really want that in the core (despite the fact that, apparently, other forum systems do have this as core)

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I see. You'd feel more comfortable if I removed it myself, right?
I'd certainly be comfortable if you did it - but I was working myself towards me doing it, I just had to do that as interim step, as it were.

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If we're going to display it, yes. Otherwise, no need to capture it.
I think it'd be nice to capture and display it.

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OTOH -- could be made even simpler... Since Wedge gets a list of monthly stats, why not simply give the first month of activity in the first stats area...? It's something that's already calculated, innit? Or maybe it's just the year... Not sure.
Doesn't really work for imports unless the importer goes back and fills in some of that data...
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