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Nao

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Re: Wedge and SMF directions
« Reply #15, on June 7th, 2011, 09:44 PM »
Quote from TE on June 7th, 2011, 08:46 PM
You could vote for removing his ban over there.
Incidently, I requested (back in August) for my full ban to be turned into a post ban, mostly so I could retrieve my PMs (which I didn't do in the end), but eventually I realized it had an unexpected effect on me. Had I been fully banned, I would have created another account to keep an eye on their forums. But in the current state of my account, I simply don't care. I learned to disregard whatever criticism was being made of me. I learned to ignore requests about AeMe -- I originally used to post my replies on aeva.noisen.com, and then stopped doing that as well.
What mattered to me was making a stand and building something concrete, instead of wasting my time on the sm.org forums -- where confusion reigns for me.

One of the things we need to settle between Pete and I is the mod system -- given that Wedge rewrites much of the codebase, 99% of the mods won't be compatible out of the box. I'd love to go even further and disable the ability to edit code in Wedge files -- *at least* until we come up with a better way to do it, or at least add enough hooks for these 99% of mods to be able to make the jump to Wedge.
I believe Pete isn't too keen on that, but we could definitely use the fact that mods aren't going to break anyone's forums until we're done with our first gold release.
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I'd start a poll in the friends area
But... Do *I* want my account to be restored?
They'll keep saying whatever they said before -- that I'm too unstable. That I removed the link to sm.org on noisen.com (like they didn't do anything to deserve it -- and it will be a moot point anyway in a few days.) That I'd never use my account to help SMF, rather insidiously destroy it from within. I can already hear the sarcasm...

I just don't see the point in coming back. If I absolutely had to post on their boards, I would create a dummy account and sign as Nao... I have a dynamic IP with many ranges so they couldn't ban me without banning millions of French users. (And I would still have anonymizers left to use....)
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but I believe I'm hated by some team memers and won't attract enough attention.
Why would they hate you? :unsure:
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Even Tim's ban got removed and his friends badge was re-added.
Never heard about this guy... ID #12 uh? Must have taken place years before I registered...

AngelinaBelle

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Re: Wedge and SMF directions
« Reply #16, on June 7th, 2011, 10:08 PM »
I'm sorry I've shifted this topic so far off-topic. I'm not going to try to heal any rifts today.

I like "floating topics" by any other name, because content is content to me.

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Aaron

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Re: Wedge and SMF directions
« Reply #17, on June 7th, 2011, 10:13 PM »
Quote from Nao/Gilles on June 7th, 2011, 09:44 PM
Never heard about this guy... ID #12 uh? Must have taken place years before I registered...
Tim's been around since YaBB, really. Up until a few years ago, the YaBB site even sported his design. He was one of the guys that pushed really hard for semantic XHTML and CSS in SMF back when work was still being done on the Core theme. Unfortunately, while meaning well, he ended up being perceived as not constructive and ... well, you know how the 1.1 Core theme turned out: while aesthetically pleasing, it used mostly tables for its layout.

(There's obviously more to this story, that's not for a public board, sorry. ;))
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Arantor

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Re: Wedge and SMF directions
« Reply #19, on June 8th, 2011, 12:04 AM »
Just before we wrestle this beast back on topic, let me explain why IPv6 support isn't done.

First up, bans. Since I figured as per our plans to be doing something different with bans, whatever is then done has to support IPv6 - I didn't go back and re-engineer IPv6 into the current ban system.

Other than that, there's a couple of niggly places where it doesn't push the IP address through the formatter. But it's mostly ready.
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Re: Wedge and SMF directions
« Reply #21, on June 8th, 2011, 04:12 PM »
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It's good to be in charge here -- and to have so many people trust us, so that it doesn't seem so bad to be under a Pete/Nao dictatorship (which is, ultimately, what this is.)
Dictatorship is not the same as leadership.

I will never follow a dictator (being born in Spain in the 50's I have a lot of experience about that) but I am very happy to follow a couple of good leaders with a strong vision.

Nao

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Nao

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Re: Wedge and SMF directions
« Reply #24, on June 10th, 2011, 12:30 PM »
Quote from AngelinaBelle on June 7th, 2011, 10:08 PM
I'm sorry I've shifted this topic so far off-topic. I'm not going to try to heal any rifts today.
There's nothing to heal, nothing that matters right now at least.

Off-topic is welcome here. We just need to use that 'Split Topic' feature more often, eheh. Like I did right now.
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I like "floating topics" by any other name, because content is content to me.
What do you mean "by any other name"?

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Nao

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Re: Wedge and SMF directions
« Reply #26, on July 2nd, 2011, 01:58 PM »
I guess it depends on the choice of terminology!

I tend to choose self-descript names that can be grasped by noobs, even if it lies about the (bigger) scope of the feature.

(Sorry for the delay, just re-reading through old topics I didn't reply to ;))

AngelinaBelle

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Re: Wedge and SMF directions
« Reply #27, on July 20th, 2011, 08:04 PM »
Quote from Nao/Gilles on July 2nd, 2011, 01:58 PM
I tend to choose self-descript names that can be grasped by noobs, even if it lies about the (bigger) scope of the feature.
Yes, there is a lot to be said for clearly understanding what you are talking about and explaining it simply. +1 on both.
Re: Wedge and SMF directions
« Reply #28, on July 20th, 2011, 11:04 PM »
Quote from AngelinaBelle on June 7th, 2011, 05:23 PM
All fascinating discussions.  Seriously. I miss you guys frequently. Even though, Arantor, you are kind of still there on the friends board to share your acquired knowledge and help out in crises.
The Friends board is now inaccessible, I noticed today. I'm not a dev member to anybody's team but I've delved into the SMF code as a homebrew "customizer"/user, and I was thinking that mentioning user issues with SMF would be of some help even if only for the perspective. I've also been keeping a keen eye on Friends, Yourasoft, Jaelta because I really would like an alternative to SMF especially if any of the forks develop a useable trackback scheme that effectively deals with database lookups for individual posts/postID/like that...okay, so that's a "niche".

...but if any fork comes up with a slick trackback scheme, buddy, I'm dropping interest in everybody else's products and will snap that one up.

So even if I'm not a dev person, I'm looking for how a development develops and chime in about what I'm looking for.  (plus I just plain ole like these guys, ha).
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