[Plugin Screenshots] Invitation Only Topics

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[Plugin Screenshots] Re: Invitation Only Topics
« Reply #15, on April 6th, 2012, 11:57 PM »
Except that there are a lot of people who actually like having a physical QWERTY keyboard on their phone, for example. Just as there are people who would actually quite welcome that.

Here's the thing: things sometimes stay as they are because no-one thought to improve them, and sometimes they stay as they are because it's reasonably optimised as it is.

Not everyone wants a touchscreen phone, I don't own one, I own a smartphone with basic keys on it, but I know plenty of people who actively use a Blackberry for that reason.


You know what's really weird though? Google+ works how we're leaning towards - you create circles for things, which is a form of groups, and control which groups see content. In fact, if you look at the way things are, it's even closer a model to what G+ does than anything else, but I guess that's wrong and we should implement purely for the lowest common denominator, despite it not being the general baseline that works best? (Specifying a list of names for each topic is pointless, especially if it's the same list of names each time. Surely then a group would be a FAR better solution?)
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[Plugin Screenshots] Re: Invitation Only Topics
« Reply #16, on April 7th, 2012, 12:21 AM »
With this plug in the lowest has an easy way to get the way they want and the rest of us can use groups.

PS: I have no power here so me saying I love groups in no way means things will not change. I just love the power they give me, I use them anywhere I can it saves me so much time and I am less inclined to forget someone them if I have to include them individuality. Not to say that functionality would not be useful every once in awhile.
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[Plugin Screenshots] Re: Invitation Only Topics
« Reply #17, on April 7th, 2012, 12:22 AM »
Quote from Arantor on April 6th, 2012, 11:57 PM
Except that there are a lot of people who actually like having a physical QWERTY keyboard on their phone, for example. Just as there are people who would actually quite welcome that.

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Not everyone wants a touchscreen phone, I don't own one, I own a smartphone with basic keys on it, but I know plenty of people who actively use a Blackberry for that reason.
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Quote from Arantor on April 6th, 2012, 11:57 PM
Here's the thing: things sometimes stay as they are because no-one thought to improve them, and sometimes they stay as they are because it's reasonably optimised as it is.
No, I think that things cannot stay as they are.. it's impossibile they can't evolve.
IMO the process works like this: phase 1, object is created. phase 2, object has small optimizations over and over again. phase 3, object is reinvented. phase 4, small optimizations... phase 5: reinvented.
Here's the thing: optimizations are sacred but there's a time where things need to be rethought and reinvented. Then before another rethink there need to are optimizations! :)
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You know what's really weird though? Google+ works how we're leaning towards - you create circles for things, which is a form of groups, and control which groups see content. In fact, if you look at the way things are, it's even closer a model to what G+ does than anything else, but I guess that's wrong and we should implement purely for the lowest common denominator, despite it not being the general baseline that works best? (Specifying a list of names for each topic is pointless, especially if it's the same list of names each time. Surely then a group would be a FAR better solution?)
I said that groups can remain. "personal" permissions can be added upon groups (to replace or add things).

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[Plugin Screenshots] Re: Invitation Only Topics
« Reply #18, on April 7th, 2012, 12:36 AM »
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Here's the thing: optimizations are sacred but there's a time where things need to be rethought and reinvented. Then before another rethink there need to are optimizations!
And we already had the discussion over rethinking and reinventing, which is when we discussed how this would be achieved, and there is absolutely NO way to do what you're suggesting efficiently. It's not even possible to make THAT efficient just as groups, and per user topic access is just unnecessary most of the time.

Let me put it this way, I've been using forums for several years and I have seen a very few occasions in that time I would have liked topic access limited to a small number and in each of those cases I'd almost certainly have set a list up of contacts in advance anyway. To put something like this in the core, given that as Nao indicated, almost no-one would use it anyway and penalise all users' performance for it, is simply unacceptable.

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[Plugin Screenshots] Re: Invitation Only Topics
« Reply #19, on April 7th, 2012, 09:42 AM »
Ok, no problem. It was just an idea. If you say it's not convenient to do that I trust you :)

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