Which next? [Poll]
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What should I write next?

A shoutbox/AJAX chat system
3 (15.8%)
An ad manager
7 (36.8%)
Something like vBookie (which will require a points/currency system to be written first)
0 (0%)
Something else (please reply, note I might add it as an option later)
1 (5.3%)
A tournament system
3 (15.8%)
Treasury/donation manager
5 (26.3%)
Total Members Voted: 16

Arantor

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Re: Which next? [Poll]
« Reply #30, on April 1st, 2012, 06:53 PM »
Which mod are you currently using, out of curiosity?
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Re: Which next? [Poll]
« Reply #31, on April 1st, 2012, 07:03 PM »
the one which has been taken over by vblamer.. (but an older version).. initial developer was IIRC jerm?!?
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Re: Which next? [Poll]
« Reply #32, on April 1st, 2012, 07:07 PM »
Quote from TE on April 1st, 2012, 06:48 PM
Quote from Norodo on April 1st, 2012, 01:19 PM
I don't really care. I don't use ads on my pages. I feel they deteriorate the quality feeling of the site. Though I can understand why some people might want them.
AD management is a 'must have' :cool: I need it on all of my forums to cover hosting expenses..
My only problem would be that to earn back 10 dollars I'd have to go at least 6 months. For me it's better to just... Pay it all out of my pocket. :)

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Re: Which next? [Poll]
« Reply #33, on April 1st, 2012, 07:14 PM »
Quote from TE on April 1st, 2012, 07:03 PM
the one which has been taken over by vblamer.. (but an older version).. initial developer was IIRC jerm?!?
Yes, it was written by jerm, back in 2006, IIRC.
Quote from Norodo on April 1st, 2012, 07:07 PM
My only problem would be that to earn back 10 dollars I'd have to go at least 6 months. For me it's better to just... Pay it all out of my pocket. :)
I'm still thinking $5 to $10, really depends how much complexity I give it. But at the same time, it's a one off fee and you can use it on as many sites as you want.

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Re: Which next? [Poll]
« Reply #34, on April 1st, 2012, 08:09 PM »
Quote from Arantor on April 1st, 2012, 07:14 PM
Quote from Norodo on April 1st, 2012, 07:07 PM
My only problem would be that to earn back 10 dollars I'd have to go at least 6 months. For me it's better to just... Pay it all out of my pocket. :)
I'm still thinking $5 to $10, really depends how much complexity I give it. But at the same time, it's a one off fee and you can use it on as many sites as you want.
Oh don't get me wrong, I think 5-10 quid is quite reasonable for such a thing. If anything, it is my situation that is different from the norm. :)

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Re: Which next? [Poll]
« Reply #35, on April 1st, 2012, 08:20 PM »
*nods* The big thing is capability vs acceptability. It is one thing to rule out access to people who cannot pay, either due to PayPal restrictions or other restrictions, and another to rule out access to people who simply do not want to pay.

The $5-$10 barrier is primarily a level where the bulk of people are in the 'cannot' rather than 'will not' category, and those I can deal with on a case by case basis - but if you can't (as opposed to won't) pay $5 for an ad system, you're probably not paying (much if at all) for hosting, meaning that very likely you're not going to be handling the kinds of traffic that actually would *pay* ads anyway.

It's a long, complex and messy cycle. If I could be assured that I wouldn't have to deal with ungrateful idiots, I would have no hesitation about things being free but I dealt with too many ungrateful idiots (both at SMF and more recently) to make me want to give everything away for free.

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Re: Which next? [Poll]
« Reply #36, on April 2nd, 2012, 05:27 PM »
Basically -- if we know you, guys, we won't make you pay :P

(Just like I offered AeMe2 to friends who asked for it.)

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Re: Which next? [Poll]
« Reply #37, on April 2nd, 2012, 05:28 PM »
Yup, I already figured anyone with a Friend or Consultant badge would be given a free pass anyway.

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Re: Which next? [Poll]
« Reply #38, on April 2nd, 2012, 05:54 PM »
* billy2 looks around the room; checks his 'Friends' badge hasn't gone

Are you sure you accounted for me ?
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Quote from Arantor on April 2nd, 2012, 05:28 PM
Yup, I already figured anyone with a Friend or Consultant badge would be given a free pass anyway.
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Re: Which next? [Poll]
« Reply #39, on April 2nd, 2012, 05:58 PM »
Yup. I hadn't spelled it out in big letters because 1) there isn't yet a plugin site, only an SVN repository that is privately managed, and 2) I didn't want to spark a 'can I puleeeeeease have a Friends badge?' attitude.

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Re: Which next? [Poll]
« Reply #40, on April 3rd, 2012, 02:53 AM »
'can I puleeeeeease have a Friends badge!!!!!   :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl:


Seriously though anyone who won't pay the amounts named isn't serious about the site they want it for. Heck I earned a $100 in six months off of a new forum. Even paying $20 for the plugin that would be a $80 profit.

Oh if I post here much you will find I have a off the wall sense of humor.

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Re: Which next? [Poll]
« Reply #41, on April 3rd, 2012, 10:30 AM »
Poll closed already? Damn...

I'd have voted for a donation plugin (using Treasury in SMF at present and really like it), and whether I'm asked to pay or not, I'll donate when such a thing exists, no matter who writes it.
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Arantor

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Re: Which next? [Poll]
« Reply #42, on April 3rd, 2012, 12:32 PM »
Well, voting for the donation plugin still wouldn't only have brought it to 2nd place, as I said I'd close it when 20 votes had been cast and at that point, 19 votes had been cast.

I've already written about half of the ad management code (that I want to write for now) and a donation manager will no doubt be second.

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Re: Which next? [Poll]
« Reply #43, on April 3rd, 2012, 02:27 PM »
Hey Pete, if you're bored and don't want to work on current Wedge fixes and stuff, mind if I share part of my to-do list with you? Maybe you'll find something nice to work on :)

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update new topic stats when splitting and merging a topic?

pm preview fails when replying to self

have a post unapproved. it links to the moderation center, which does NOT list unapproved posts anywhere...!
clicking the approve button doesn't work either.

merge posts: merge Likes as well!

add a nofollow bbcode!

Add a "IN THIS TOPIC" select box to the top search box... (see Noisen.com)

remove smiley -> JS popup has \n\n (VERY oddly, not all calls to JSE() generate a double-encoded \n, quick moderation items are fine... what's done differently?)

add smartphone/tablet icons next to user names in Who's Online and Info Center...?

write some UI for default_index (either an existing Source file, or a cat/board number)

add a 'force current GIF avatar transparency' setting for users?

unlink [topic prefixes], like on noisen.com (see noisen patch)

use reqWin for popups in media area, instead of zoomedia (which is not as practical here)

only accept A-Z keystrokes in select box if dropdown is open..?

add an actual action=thoughts page, with advanced filtering/sorting (i.e. either linear of threaded), and link that in the homepage.

img.resize JS (from theme.js) should only be printed (in the HTML) when a resized image is used...?

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Re: Which next? [Poll]
« Reply #44, on April 3rd, 2012, 04:50 PM »
It's not that I'm bored, it's that with *everything* going on here, I don't entirely feel able to tackle the big things that need tackling, if that makes sense. Working on a plugin is a smaller goal to hit rather than the very large to-do list I see with Wedge, which is never ending.

Of that list...
* nofollow bbcode - what exactly should it do? There's a lot more to it than simply adding the base bbcode, it is essentially duplicating the url bbcode including all the preparsing and calls to fixTags.

* merging likes - yeah, I forgot about that. I'll look at that shortly, should be relatively quick to implement.

* smartphone/tablet icons should be doable enough; the user agent is stored in the log_online table when the action is also logged, so it's not as if it's a huge ask to figure that out, really. Might be nice, actually.

* A-Z keystrokes, yeah, that's bitten me when I've set a different privacy and forgotten to click on the textbox again, heh. But it needs to be 0-9 plus A-Z, since I can well imagine numeric entries as well as textual ones

* resize JS... that does depend on whether Zoomedia is used or not, really, since it may or may not be applicable then.

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