Wanchope

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Re: Surviving Your Competitor
« Reply #30, on May 6th, 2013, 01:10 AM »
Quote from xrunner on May 6th, 2013, 12:41 AM
Quote from Arantor on May 6th, 2013, 12:29 AM
People don't like change.
No they sure don't. I posted a topic about me possibly changing forum software in our Back Office and this is an exact quote from a member -

"I hate change (try going through it 8+ times at one website for 12 years, it's also about to get another upgrade) but that actually looks nice, in a way."

Going back to the OP -
Quote from Wanchope on May 4th, 2013, 12:59 AM
This is very annoying or better put frustrating. Having a competitor who have been there for about 10 years. Membership running to over 1 million, post running to over 12 million. You are new, very few inactive members. Most posts are made by you. In such case, how do you survive? Suggestions are needed.
Thanks.
There's already a heavy hitter Nigerian forum. There's also another one (NBF) that you say is failing woefully. Is there really room for yet another Nigerian forum, given the existing players in the field? :wow:
I am not creating Nigerian forum, i am creating forum, a world wide sort of but I cam starting with Nigerians because, I know I can still get huge load of Nigerian traffic, with Nigerians, I will target Indians and then go world wide ( stupid dream isn't it?). I am trying creating a role playing forum like Giaonline but will versatile discussion base. My forum's name does not reflect Nigeria but many post do because I am targeting Nigerian traffic for now.
Thanks.

Arantor

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Re: Surviving Your Competitor
« Reply #31, on May 6th, 2013, 01:12 AM »
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Please can you shed more light on it.
Ours is a system I built for Wedge (currently it has a bug, which I'm convinced is a jQuery regression bug, but that's another matter)

At the point a post is saved, whether it is a new topic or just a post, rules are evaluated. Depending on those rules, several things can happen:
* prevent the post being made
* put the post for moderation
* lock/unlock the topic[1]
* pin/unpin the topic

You can give it a set of criteria, too. For each action you want to carry out, you can add one or more criteria, based on the following:
* in/not in a given board
* user has less than/more than/equal to a given post count
* user has less than/more than/equal to a given number of infraction points
* subject begins with/contains/ends with given words
* body begins with/contains/ends with given words
* user is in/not in one or more groups
* post contains less than/more than/equal to a given number of links

All of these can be mixed and matched, for example you can set it up so that a post will be moderated if it contains the f-word, unless the user is an admin and is not in a staff board, for example.

There are also extra plugins that add additional criteria to these options, so that you can limit posts that are too long or too short, or have too many smileys or too many images. (And none of these plugins requires any changes to ANY file in Wedge.)


The moderation filters system is designed to deal with the cases that can be dealt with easily (like profanity or general moderation, this same system deals with if you want to moderate the first 5 posts of a user), whereas cases of spam would generally need to be looked at by a moderator, and that's why you issue moderators.

Frankly, the way he's going about it is ridiculous.
 1. This is particularly cool, you can set it up so moderators can just start a post with '/lock' and it'll lock the post for them automatically
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Re: Surviving Your Competitor
« Reply #33, on May 6th, 2013, 01:34 AM »
Wedge! I like your robotic moderation, please I want to know if all post will be scanned or post from specific group.
I will also suggest you add message to the user's screen when his post is held on moderation like

Apologies, your post is held on moderation due to suspected activities.You may lose your account... and money :D

Please don't mind my last two words

Arantor

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Re: Surviving Your Competitor
« Reply #34, on May 6th, 2013, 01:37 AM »
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I like your robotic moderation, please I want to know if all post will be scanned or post from specific group.
You know, I'd REALLY like it if you would read what has been posted. Your question would have already been answered. All posts are checked but action is only taken if the criteria are actually met, like I already said, including the fact that group access is also one of those criteria you can play with. I even gave you a specific example of not applying it to a certain group.

I will also suggest you spend a bit of time reading around this forum. The feature you 'suggest I add' was added MONTHS ago. Although it has had an overhaul in recent times in line with other changes in the guts of Wedge due to the warning system.

I have documented and provided screenshots of all this stuff, multiple times over in some places.


:edit: The UI was built over a year ago - http://wedge.org/pub/feats/7099/moderation-filters-ui/ (and I built the UI some time after I built the underlying logic)

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