Wedge

The Woman is right and we are left... in the rain by law and rain is another one of those little Big words!
 
 Every thing men do, if you think about it is for Women, Hell I can stay in a log house in the woods with the bare needs, and it place to sleep, Now what's wrong this plan. but as soon as a women comes in to place everything has got to change, Even you or you you lost the log house you made and the food you earned and the work and land you planed.
 
 I really wish the they were equal, and take responsibility for there actions, this kind of like judicial Mafia if you ask me, at lease here in the US of A.
Don't get me wrong Woman do their fare share, but when it comes down to tacks and nails, the nails are stronger but the tack sure hurt and get you infected in more then one way hurt!
Never wrong and have the last word, or look out, hands behind you back!
JMHO, wait til your 50+ to get hitched, then you'll need someone to talk to and co-air pains with! and it's too late for them to try and change you into their girlfriend!
regards,
Maxx

Absolute GOLD that Pete...

I've nothing against women in fact, I felt they were a necessity in the workplace. But the way things are going with this bullshit equality thing is an utter joke. I commend you on your past victories more of these are needed to restore the balance.

Why is it not the case during divorce that the equality flag is NOT raised???/

They (as in women) end up with the lions share of the spoils under the guise of providing a roof over the child's head (as is the case) yet no consideration is given to the poor bastard that's had to work and save his entire life for the family home, not to mention other wealth he may have accumulated before marriage (case in point). They happily accept the judges decision to be awarded upward of 75% of the husbands total wealth and so waddle into the sunset fully armed with child on hip and in a position to start a new life unhindered by monetary restraints. Meanwhile the bread winner has to reinvent himself, go through intense hardship and in most cases never recoup the losses or able to forge out a new life for themselves as easily as their counterparts.

When the child commences smoking and indulging in life's unending array of vices why then is the family home not sold and divied up equally between spouse and husband>. Only one case but its spreading across the globe and when a challenge is made on the mere males part the "ol hell hath no fury like a women..." scenario emerges. Guys are such bastards but its all well and good to be bigger bastards and fleece us of our worldly possessions and leave us penniless while women make a mockery of it all. This kind of mindset is becoming an institution of sorts where its now becoming commonplace for women to go through their apprenticeship of getting married and divorced numerous times to achieve her lifelong target of financial freedom. Contrary to popular belief of course.

Men need to make a stand and build on the little things like your workplace victory, to counter the emerging position of control women have carefully carved out for their own...Germaine Greer is a person I total detest as she's empowered women and has destroyed their femininity completely. You only have to look @ the new breed roaming around now and see how the standards have dropped....in the western world that is. From our perspective, it all starts with the little things like the hair band and tie scenario you highlighted. we must build on that. Great stuff and good on you for sharing.

In case your wondering I'm not speaking from personal experience just making observations from various predicaments etc. that have come before me from time to time.

Enough is enough, if we're portrayed as bastards and fair prey for our opposites then lets do unto others as they do unto us.

I rest my case.

If nend has one particular lady 'abuse' her status, then he should just tell her to get stuffed. Not women in general, just her, for abusing him. That's not being miso-soup, that's being honest.
Especially not for pretty women; centuries of male dominance make habits stick, and they're almost always seen as trophies, rather than human beings. At that point, when the person realizes it, she can either abuse that vision (and thus be labeled a bitch), or avoid any human contact. Not exactly a desirable position.
Nothing I could notice here.
Absolutely. Supposedly, men can take care of themselves.
Well, if they're well-educated enough, they also know that violence isn't the solution to violence... Not that they COULDN'T handle themselves, they'd just decide NOT TO.
That's where it gets funny... No?

About the bouncing issue, I think it started it when I switch to quick reply on by default.

And thanks.

Hmm, whatever Opera bugs are, it's hard to go and look into them when you know that they'll eventually drop Presto for WebKit, and thus will get a host of new bugs but not the original ones they used to have until now... :(

And thanks for what? :^^;:

Well Equal work deserves equal pay, and equal treatment, when all is equal, means just that, ... But also, like I said enter the woman and all things must change and that should not be. And all of this depends on the Work Place it's self, what is the JOB? and the Job description!
 
 When Is was out in the Wood logging for 25 cents Cleaned and loaded delivered  log, I never once saw a woman.
 There may be some jobs, they just can't do, just to feed the family or in my case to by my own clothing while going to school, and so I could eat lunch with the rest. In today's world a man is stuck between a wall and a hard place, If the Woman says it the court believes it to be true, when a dispute comes u between to two. ( I know there are many cases of abuse, and that's not right), but here the woman just needs to get tired of being married and you lose! even the damn dog!
 
 I know things have changed, and allot but, let's not get crazy, women have already changed things so you can not discipline your own children, ( not talking abuse), and then you need to answer to or go to jail for what they do, and on the other hand Children are not allowed to be a child, grow up like a child or become a man or a woman, know one knows what right or wrong anymore, and here if you know not the law, you will pay anyway.
 
 The Office is not the only work place, it's only the place most want. And If we don't get some men busy fixing the Construction and infrastructures of our countries. the little ladies homes will come crashing down.
Most everyone these days, are under the illusion that everything is done fro the virtual word, and the hard working people are pissed on, and their jobs sent to countries that people have to work in slavery for food for the families just to keep them going and they best not get sick.
We are losing the real job, here the future and not many can even work the hard jobs for the lack pay( no more back bone of our existence.
Remember from the very beginning, all or every penny in existence then and now, was made from the blood, sweet and tears of the working Man and, In those days many Women and Children.
Equal Pay for Equal work, no special treatment for anyone and if the boss can not work, he/she should get out of there! after all is a Team!
Again I wish we all were equal, this its meant to be.
JMHO
maxx

@Nao, yes, let us hope for the best :(

Little rant about Chrome, why do they need to shove it to you with every thing you download?  every adobe flash update comes with chrome... why? if it is that great why do they need to pretty much force it to you?

@MaxxProfile  You do realize that you are the ones that creates the differences right? Take the very first post here for example, if you want equality then either help other men to puck up things and hold the door for other men or simply do not do any of those things for anyone.

Nothing will make me happier than been treated like an equal...

The only reason why I was accepted in SMF team back in 2010 is because I'm a woman, not because I was good at support or anything, that stuff came in latter, the very first approach was because I'm a woman.

Believe me, been a woman in a third world, misogynist country, I better than anyone else knows about gender discrimination. Heck, I suffer it on a daily basics :P

It is bad that womens on your country take advantages of their position, there are all kinds of womans and there are all kinds of men too, generalizing a whole gender based on specific cases doesn't do any good.

What I'm saying is that both gender takes advantages and both genders sees themselves as victims.

And yet again you miss the point, or conveniently ignore it because it doesn't fit your argument. If we don't hold the door, etc., we're considered impolite or arrogant, or superior, etc. So we're damned if we do, damned if we don't. Just being damned if we do is less worse than being damned if we don't, it seems.Don't play the 'victim' card. It's not because of that, it's because you spent time hanging around and have some idea what you're talking about (more than most), which is what they were looking for.Stop playing the victim card, it does you no favours. Don't make me say the L word because that provokes the 'woe is me' attitude again.But that's the point we're trying to make. If they can't take advantage, they cry repression.In your country, maybe. Not here.

Oh! the bouncing thing fires up whenever I want to click the quote button :)

I'm not playing the victim, I'm simply saying both genders have issues with the other gender, that is all. You can rant all you want, it won't change a thing.

I hav eno other argument other than letting you know that both genders have issues and both genders have rants, I do not care if those rants are valid or not, I stopped caring about it ages ago.

Well,
 
 I'm old school, I hold the door for women, men and children and even though they walk trough and don't even look back, but I am what I am and made it by myself, from the helper's helper to the top ( if there is such a position) and My boss in the military was A women, not a bad thing because she was the same way, not thinking about genders, just getting the job done and the best way possible. ( it's all about life and it's future, why are we even talking about Women, they already have all the rights, when comes down to it! ( here anyway).
But that's because here in the USA and UK, most of Free Europe...We all had to fight to be free, no matter what it took or who die in the process, until women are prepared to do the same on all counts, they should start thanking man for what he has done for us all! ( and this Goes for Some men as well )... if you want to do it you will and nothing will stop you!
 
 My point is no one knows any more, or are no to sure where they stand, and it's all on the ground and it up to each of us to find our own way!
 
 In the US from the beginning till now we all were refugees and had to fight to be free, no matter the race religion, or sexual orientation.
We need to take a few steps back, and realize that one needs to work to make it, or die trying! If not for this we have, would be no more!
One thing I have learned in my days is that the ones that hold you back, in most cases are the ones closest to you, like woman, various nationalities and or races, take advantage of their own. the rest you may blame on the media if you like!
if you can do the job, no issues, if not get to stepping! I bowl to no Man or Woman or God! you are your Own God! and all get the same respect until proven otherwise!
regards,
Maxx

And again, I have no issues with whatever argument you guys are trying to do. I never said your rants weren't valid or anything.

I've never been in Europe, only the US so I have no idea what is like over there, over here, things are difficult for woman, I was just trying to let you guys know that issues for both genders do exists, I have no intentions to trying to arguing  which issues are valid and which are not.

You are very correct and allot of Countries the Women are Highly or vastly being abused, and molested, and this is not at all right or even acceptable, to use by any means, but we are talking here. and it's totally up you you and your people to deal with it there. But this is a path that is not easy to follow by any means!
But now days we have what too much on our own plates to take on more. So it's up to those countries or territories to fight there own demons as we have. that's all I saying it was not easy for us and took many many years and deaths as with destruction to rebuild in a newer way, at least we thought! lol!
Some countries are fighting back at the system, not know what the outcome will be, but they believe it's got to be better!


regards,
maxx

Speaking of military men once they reach 18 in the USA where I live are required to register with the selective service by law. Just means you have to sign just in case a war breaks out and your needed, like it or not. Women are not required to do this.

Also auto insurance is cheaper for women here...

Equality...

I won't speak for the military aspect; but as far as car insurance goes, that's true here too - but it isn't a sexist thing. It is simply that the insurance companies receive fewer claims against insurance from women.