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Something I learned from sm.org
« on June 1st, 2013, 04:42 AM »
OK, I don't know if you saw what went on but there was one moderator in particular who kept pressing edit when he really meant quote. And given that it was being edited, I'm presuming that he's going to the full editor (because the inline editor would be hopefully clearer)

So I thought... what if it actually told you that you were editing someone else's post? It's not necessarily a *warning* because you're doing something potentially quite legitimate.

And so, the mock-up. I would have used a proper (i) symbol but I didn't have one quickly to hand. And yes, blue - green is used for success, red for warnings, blue is neutral.

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Re: Something I learned from sm.org
« Reply #2, on June 1st, 2013, 04:53 AM »
Oh, doing it occasionally, it happens. Doing it *repeatedly*, including multiple times in the same thread, on the other hand is not really excusable...

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Re: Something I learned from sm.org
« Reply #5, on June 1st, 2013, 05:21 AM »
Yeah, that's the thing. We're human, and having the prompt would likely quell the occasions it did happen by accident. Whether it discourages utter stupidity is anyone's guess. But I'm willing to give it a shot ^_^

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Re: Something I learned from sm.org
« Reply #6, on June 1st, 2013, 01:19 PM »
to a point i think it is sad that this is required to try to stop people from editing others posts when they dont mean to.

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Re: Something I learned from sm.org
« Reply #7, on June 1st, 2013, 01:24 PM »
Well, people are human and do make mistakes. This is more about dealing with those who do it repeatedly. I'm not sure, for example, whether to make this an option for users to turn off, but leave on by default... those who don't read it probably won't find the option anyway.

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Re: Something I learned from sm.org
« Reply #8, on June 1st, 2013, 02:29 PM »
and it is possible to try to scroll right pass the message so it does not appear on the screen anyway right?

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Re: Something I learned from sm.org
« Reply #10, on June 1st, 2013, 02:36 PM »
well if they increase the size of the reply box then they could? :P or if they have other mods that show up on that page to increase the page size.

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Re: Something I learned from sm.org
« Reply #11, on June 1st, 2013, 02:37 PM »
Since it shows *above* the post editor... as per the screenshot... it wouldn't make any difference...

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Re: Something I learned from sm.org
« Reply #12, on June 1st, 2013, 02:47 PM »
if there were a shoutbox below the menu for example, that would make the page longer and possibly allow the moderator to push the warning out of sight. but then those that actually know anything could just write up a custom css to hide that block and not see the message in the first place.

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Re: Something I learned from sm.org
« Reply #13, on June 1st, 2013, 02:53 PM »
I have the feeling you're going a long way to try and shoot this down.

Shoutbox? Sure, it's possible. Unlikely it'd be that big but if it was, fine, the user would still have to scroll down to the edit area and the odds of them doing so without seeing the notice are slim in a practical sense.

Using a custom CSS? If they're smart enough to understand how to set up a custom stylesheet themselves, they're probably smart enough also to understand why it's there in the first place - and that would also imply that a user-level setting as originally suggested would deal with that, since it tends towards the fact that people who flout such notices wouldn't find the option to turn them off anyway.

If I really wanted to be obnoxious about it, I could bring up popups both before and after posting that the user has to acknowledge. Perhaps one on saving someone else's post isn't a bad idea - but that also tends towards UAC Blindness as it so became known (in Vista, UAC would prompt you very, very often, to the point where you'd end up clicking OK just to make it go away unless you were smart enough to turn it off in the first place)

If you have anything better to suggest, I'd love to hear it.

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