Perhaps apart from 3ds you can also add ps and xbox icons as well? Can these be edited?
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Well, I was more joking about the 3DS, I don't know anyone who seriously uses their browser, except maybe the homebrew crowd. Same deal about the PS3 and XBox, they don't seem like the type.
That bottom set can't be edited - because there's specific code to drive them. I guess we could make it so if people wanted, but it seems like a lot of work for something most people won't even notice. I guess that's why I'm wary of the UI, because it's not something that really needs to be that configurable.
That bottom set can't be edited - because there's specific code to drive them. I guess we could make it so if people wanted, but it seems like a lot of work for something most people won't even notice. I guess that's why I'm wary of the UI, because it's not something that really needs to be that configurable.
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I'm not really be certain what I'm saying here, but Bloc had his own little icons, that were very modern and neat, that he was using with some of his themes, and I have also seen some Wordpress theme, that I think ( you you can believe I do ), they call icons from a sheet of icons, in there process! at least it looks that way. One thing to keep in mind that, anything removed must be removed also from you CSS or SS what you guys are using, so not get errors in the admin error logs / browser engines and such... The icons the little tiny ones I've been seeing are very neat a professional looking, and is I can just have some time I'll look them up, and show an example. the icons I'm thinking about are mainly the SMF stock default icons.
As far as the Smiley, they are nice but, too many , makes for a real messy forum, I don't even like to use them myself, but at time I do ( limited )
there is a commercial out that says more is better, but not in my book! too busy makes for too messy and obstruction from the content.
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As far as the Smiley, they are nice but, too many , makes for a real messy forum, I don't even like to use them myself, but at time I do ( limited )
there is a commercial out that says more is better, but not in my book! too busy makes for too messy and obstruction from the content.
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Why are people talking about smileys? This is NOT ABOUT SMILEYS. They just happen to share the same stupid admin area.Quote Pretty much all of Bloc's themes used the default SMF icons. I'm not talking about general icons or navigation. I'm talking about the icons that can be selected in posts, e.g. 
but Bloc had his own little icons,
OK, so I want to do a little test.
I genuinely don't know whether the 'displaying it as a dropdown' vs 'as a list of radio buttons' is more effective or better or whatever. But I also want to test it on a live audience without committing it to core without some idea of whether it's worth doing. Thus... a very nasty hacky plugin that pushes the icons into a fieldset under the postbox.
That way we can use it here and field-test it to see how well it goes down and if it works out, we can polish it up and implement it in core (easy enough to do, just update the running order of templates in Post.php, jiggle the templates in Post.template.php, the two I've provided are reasonably close to what would be needed, just need to give them the right names and fix the formatting to not be thrown together inside 2 minutes)
Note that I deliberately chose to exclude the descriptions. I don't know whether to include them as tooltips or simply not bother yet.
(In case anyone's interested, implementation time: 14 minutes.)
I genuinely don't know whether the 'displaying it as a dropdown' vs 'as a list of radio buttons' is more effective or better or whatever. But I also want to test it on a live audience without committing it to core without some idea of whether it's worth doing. Thus... a very nasty hacky plugin that pushes the icons into a fieldset under the postbox.
That way we can use it here and field-test it to see how well it goes down and if it works out, we can polish it up and implement it in core (easy enough to do, just update the running order of templates in Post.php, jiggle the templates in Post.template.php, the two I've provided are reasonably close to what would be needed, just need to give them the right names and fix the formatting to not be thrown together inside 2 minutes)
Note that I deliberately chose to exclude the descriptions. I don't know whether to include them as tooltips or simply not bother yet.
(In case anyone's interested, implementation time: 14 minutes.)
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Drop down takes less space.
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Your screen looks better: people will see the message icons and think "Oh! I can pick an icon here!", whereas as it is people notice the dropdown less.
"Drop down takes less space." the space between the icons could be reduced so that they all fit onto the one line, and then paper clip wouldn't be there.
"Drop down takes less space." the space between the icons could be reduced so that they all fit onto the one line, and then paper clip wouldn't be there.
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It's still a lot of space that can be saved with dropdown. Considering I'd completely remove these icons, at least I'd try to have them taking as less space as possible.
And it's not just a matter of space, too many things in an interface distract the user.
And it's not just a matter of space, too many things in an interface distract the user.
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Your screen looks better: people will see the message icons and think "Oh! I can pick an icon here!", whereas as it is people notice the dropdown less.
"Drop down takes less space." the space between the icons could be reduced so that they all fit onto the one line, and then paper clip wouldn't be there.
The icon dropdown is visible. You just choose not to see it. Which is natural. Topic icons aren't there for your amusement as much as smileys are. It's a feature that's also used in other situations, that *usually* you don't even have to deal with.
As such, I don't find it a problem that it doesn't jump to your eyes, and that you have to actually look at the screen to change your icon. Heck, I've never liked these forums where people arbitrarily choose a random icon on their topics. Message index looked ugly enough in SMF... :lol:
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There's not much about our old forum that I miss, but here's how they display post icons (sorry, this is the least-worst example I can find).
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I'm not disputing that the dropdown saves space. But because it's so compact, it hardly ever gets used.Quote Well, part of the problem is that most forums don't do a good job of it. If you have a set of consistently sized/shaped icons, it's much more meaningful, especially if you have the ability to filter topics on those icons (like vB did)
But I propose a third option: just dump the feature entirely. If it's not being used much, let's save ourselves the hassle and not use it at all.
No point worrying about a feature that 'no-one uses' and is 'ugly enough'
As such, I don't find it a problem that it doesn't jump to your eyes, and that you have to actually look at the screen to change your icon. Heck, I've never liked these forums where people arbitrarily choose a random icon on their topics. Message index looked ugly enough in SMF... :lol:
But I propose a third option: just dump the feature entirely. If it's not being used much, let's save ourselves the hassle and not use it at all.
No point worrying about a feature that 'no-one uses' and is 'ugly enough'
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+100 for dumping message icons completely. :)
They really seem an heritage from the past.
They really seem an heritage from the past.
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I'm not disputing that the dropdown saves space. But because it's so compact, it hardly ever gets used.
Well, part of the problem is that most forums don't do a good job of it. If you have a set of consistently sized/shaped icons, it's much more meaningful, especially if you have the ability to filter topics on those icons (like vB did)
Also, perhaps limit the ability to set message icons to topics, i.e. first post only...
But I propose a third option: just dump the feature entirely. If it's not being used much, let's save ourselves the hassle and not use it at all.
We could integrate other elements into message icons: (text) tags, pre-established topic prefixes...
No point worrying about a feature that 'no-one uses' and is 'ugly enough'
Maybe push it as a plugin, instead...?
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A regular SMF user will immediately notice how different it is (because it has the icon in it), so they're likely to click it and see that they can immediately view all icons... It's really, really better than the SMF implementation.
The thumb up/thumb down icons are probably among the widest used, but they're so different in style -- we should probably be using our Like icons for these..?
Also, perhaps limit the ability to set message icons to topics, i.e. first post only...
The thing then becomes, if users can only set it on new topic, we can largely dispense with the theatrics of having it elsewhere. Which sort of calls the mobile icons into question.
We could integrate other elements into message icons: (text) tags, pre-established topic prefixes...
I'd be tempted to agree that allowing for customization of message icons is a bit much, but OTOH some forums are gonna say they need it.
Maybe push it as a plugin, instead...?
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Since I never used or paid much attention to the message icons I'd vote dump them but introduce prefixes as icons sorta like in SD.
Maybe ship with a few common icons already available. If message icons are enabled and the poster did not select an icon the mobile[1] icon is used by default, if that makes any sense.
Maybe ship with a few common icons already available. If message icons are enabled and the poster did not select an icon the mobile[1] icon is used by default, if that makes any sense.
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Actually, I've been thinking about the whole prefix thing a lot lately, wondering if I should build it and be done with it.Quote That's how it currently works - if you don't select an icon (and just use the xx icon by default), you'll get the mobile icon.
I'm not sure we need the attachment icon though.
If I can support a 3DS icon, I'm sure we can put a Windows icon in, hahahahahah
If message icons are enabled and the poster did not select an icon the mobile[1] icon is used by default, if that makes any sense.
I'm not sure we need the attachment icon though.
If I can support a 3DS icon, I'm sure we can put a Windows icon in, hahahahahah